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TwilightZone

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40. Another poster a while back said that we've been looking at HRC all wrong.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:26 PM
Mar 2020

The poster was framing it in the context of Warren's somewhat underwhelming showing in this cycle's primaries and the inability of the female candidates to make a significant run, even though Harris, Warren, and Klobuchar are all solid candidates. Other than a brief lead for Warren, they really didn't make a dent and yet Hillary, with everything you mentioned, dominated the primaries and was 70k votes in three states from the presidency. All the inherent bias, plus 30 years of attacks and a lot of apathy on the left.

It's a perspective I share. Trump had to have a million things (plus 70k) go right and there was a lot of external influence, foreign and domestic. Otherwise, Hillary is president and we're in an entirely different world. It really was a remarkable achievement, considering the context.

I agree on Bernie's supporters. Those who won't vote for Biden likely were never going to vote for anyone other than Bernie (if they even showed up at all), and our focus should be on those we can reach. The threat of another four years of Trump should be clear, but obviously not to all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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K&R Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #1
Right on. It may be necessary to kick this article well into next week. oasis Mar 2020 #2
lol.. Bookmarking.. Good article! Cha Mar 2020 #6
People are craving normalcy. I know I sure the fuck am. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #14
I know right! And they tried to make Cha Mar 2020 #16
Capt 35% Planned to Ride Into the Convention With the Most Delegates in a Crowded Field Indykatie Mar 2020 #3
I agree. He learned being disruptive and causing chaos afford him attention and accomodation. LizBeth Mar 2020 #4
I do believe you are correct. comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #29
Ya think? Cha Mar 2020 #5
The real question is PolarPop Mar 2020 #7
hopefully, absolute DISGUST with Trump will be enough Skittles Mar 2020 #9
They sit it out voting for him. We can't pull them over. Not voting for Sanders, they are not LizBeth Mar 2020 #10
Some of those 35% aren't going to switch to Joe... WePurrsevere Mar 2020 #17
Bravo WePurrsevere, excellent points made in your post #17. oasis Mar 2020 #22
Thank you! nt WePurrsevere Mar 2020 #23
How much of Bernie's support really needs to be "courted"? dansolo Mar 2020 #18
No, not suggesting that PolarPop Mar 2020 #24
I think that was Hillary's mistake... Moving too far left. showblue22 Mar 2020 #38
Welcome to DU... SidDithers Mar 2020 #25
I doubt anything will stop some from sitting out...we will have to move right as we did in 18 and Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #30
We don't need to move right. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #32
Moderates won the House...and will likely win Senate seats this year. We already have moved right. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #34
No way. showblue22 Mar 2020 #39
he didn't learn ANY lesson Skittles Mar 2020 #8
I think 35% is generous. LizBeth Mar 2020 #11
for who? Skittles Mar 2020 #13
Lol, Sanders. I think it is more like 28-32%. LizBeth Mar 2020 #15
Bernie's big strength is that he has been saying/campaigning the exact same way for 40 years TeamPooka Mar 2020 #12
Yes and after the Vermont result, I bet we can beat him by running a Democrat in the primary. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #31
"He failed to grow." NurseJackie Mar 2020 #19
His "embrace of democratic socialism" isn't "scary." It's pseudo. betsuni Mar 2020 #20
That would require that he believe he made a mistake. ehrnst Mar 2020 #21
I didn't realize romana Mar 2020 #26
Many underestimated what % of his 2016 support was anti-Hillary. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #27
It hurts me to admit this very thing, Twilight peggysue2 Mar 2020 #36
Another poster a while back said that we've been looking at HRC all wrong. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #40
x1000, Twilight peggysue2 Mar 2020 #41
The Democratic Party could learn from Sanders' repertoire dalton99a Mar 2020 #28
sanders comments in Castro are hurting sanders Gothmog Mar 2020 #33
He never tried to get old black voters BluesClues Mar 2020 #35
That's because he didn't march with MLK showblue22 Mar 2020 #37
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