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In reply to the discussion: The problem of suffering [View all]

Rebkeh

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11. True, but
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:16 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 8, 2015, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)

The people that make those kinds of decisions didn't just show up like that one day. Violence like that does not occur in a vacuum. It is a product of a global society that we created - we all play a part. This does not mean we are responsible for their decisions, no, but we created this environment in which hate and extremism thrive.

I read somewhere that, according to a former member, the main reason people join ISIS is because they provide a steady paycheck in an unsteady society. That's just one example of what I mean by environment.

So God, I imagine, would say something like - "These people are your siblings, you forgot to care for each other. Killing one hurts me (and you) just as much it would if the tables were turned. I don't have favorites."

He could fix it but then we'd just repeat the same thing, over and over. At what point do we own it?

We have to stop thinking in terms of "them" and start thinking in terms of "us."

That's my take so yeah, we need to clean it up and stop waiting for daddy to swoop in and rescue us from ourselves. I'd rather make him proud by using our free will to stop the madness. The challenge is that it takes a collective and empathy for one another.

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The problem of suffering [View all] el_bryanto Dec 2015 OP
Here's my best TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #1
That's along the lines of what I believe as well el_bryanto Dec 2015 #8
I believe that we have free will and make our own choices. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #2
Does God know everything before it happens? JRLeft Jan 2016 #14
There is no "before" or "after" when it comes to God. rug Jan 2016 #15
That's a cop out. That makes no sense at all. JRLeft Jan 2016 #16
The fact that it makes no sense to you signifies nothing, let alone a cop out. rug Jan 2016 #17
You admit your just making shit up, because you cannot explain JRLeft Jan 2016 #18
Your confusion is hardly an admission on my part. rug Jan 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #20
Did you miss this? rug Jan 2016 #21
So you feel threatened, ridiculous. JRLeft Jan 2016 #22
Yes, JR, you make me feel so threatened I can scarcely type. rug Jan 2016 #23
You're the one insinuating I should be kicked out of the sub forum. JRLeft Jan 2016 #24
No, I'm the one telling you directly to follow the SoP. rug Jan 2016 #26
I am a host in this group, and you are in violation of the SOP. MADem Jan 2016 #30
Results on the hidden post LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #25
Thanks for posting. rug Jan 2016 #27
You can edit your post. MADem Jan 2016 #29
A strong word of warning from this group host: kentauros Jan 2016 #28
What about animals? gelatinous cube Jan 2016 #31
I don't really have a good answr to that question el_bryanto Jan 2016 #32
Free will Rebkeh Dec 2015 #3
The one response to that one that I see is that our decisions do impact other people el_bryanto Dec 2015 #9
True, but Rebkeh Dec 2015 #11
Trying to figure out how to put this into words... kentauros Dec 2015 #4
That is an interesting perception. el_bryanto Dec 2015 #10
Thanks for your thoughts on this. kentauros Dec 2015 #12
I'm not sure if my faith teaches me anything about it. goldent Dec 2015 #5
Was It Paul that said that trying to look at God is like looking through a glass darkly? NCarolinawoman Dec 2015 #13
If I recall correctly, the main goal of Buddhism is to end human suffering Tobin S. Dec 2015 #6
You made some good points there, Tobin. kentauros Dec 2015 #7
For some reason, I missed the OP when it first came up, but I have some thoughts on the matter Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2016 #33
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