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bobclark86

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11. It's a pump shotgun. It's as sporting as you can get.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:01 PM
Sep 2013

It ain't exactly a weapon of war, with the vast, vast, VAST majority of the 10 million used worldwide are for shooting clay disks and hunting squirrels. The army uses them for blowing locks on doors, and that's about it. Hell, most cops don't even carry them in cruisers anymore. Clones of it are about the only firearm allowed to be imported from China by the ATF, which won't let squat through from China.

For fuck's sake, even Andrew Cuomo, the real (i.e.: the only governor to immediately pass something after Sandy Hook... with a Republican house in the legislature) be-all, end-all enemy of "gun nuts" everywhere owns one:


Yes, that is a Remington 870 (or it's a Remington 1100, the same thing, but an even-scarier "semi-auto" version). A fancy one with pretty wood, but a Remington 870 available in bulk from every gun shop in the country.

Yeah, putting pump shotguns on the list just lost pretty much every sportsman nationwide who WOULD be in favor of restrictions on ARs and AKs. And you thought the last gun control bill went down in flames...

Now, a 5-round magazine ban for shotguns would be acceptable to many, because most can load only four. Still, with the resistance to a ban on ARs so nasty, you'll never EVER get this with anything even resembling the current Congress.

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You are going to ban pump shotguns? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #1
Why not? mwrguy Sep 2013 #3
I've owned a pump shotgun for over forty years. I'm not about to give it up to you or anyone else. SlimJimmy Sep 2013 #12
I keep hearing the same thing about AR15s mwrguy Sep 2013 #13
Your argument is so weak as to be nonexistent. There is no comparison between SlimJimmy Sep 2013 #15
Australia banned pump shotguns after the Port Arthur massacre mwrguy Sep 2013 #16
By that logic, we should also ban knives, bats, hunting bows, and tire irons. At what SlimJimmy Sep 2013 #17
Nice talking points, Mr. Pierre mwrguy Sep 2013 #20
BLAH Blah blah When you don't have a counter-argument, use a personal attack. SlimJimmy Sep 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author mwrguy Sep 2013 #2
The Kel-Tec 15 shot (25 shot) pump shotgun that Zimmerman bought isn't on the ban list either. nt rdharma Sep 2013 #4
It's insane that such a thing is even on the market mwrguy Sep 2013 #5
That's one of the most popular sporting arms in the US Link Speed Sep 2013 #6
well if it's popular for sports then it must be OK mwrguy Sep 2013 #7
Reductio ad absurdum ........ NRA style! nt rdharma Sep 2013 #8
Hi Wayne, how are things at the NRA store? CTyankee Sep 2013 #9
Are Mossberg 500s on the list? Robb Sep 2013 #10
No, it's not. furious Sep 2013 #21
It's a pump shotgun. It's as sporting as you can get. bobclark86 Sep 2013 #11
Trying to include pump action guns on a ban list would be a political impossibility Kaleva Sep 2013 #14
I tried to make that point, but he insists that the banning of all weapons is necessary. SlimJimmy Sep 2013 #18
Some do have the opinion that only a complete ban would be effective Kaleva Sep 2013 #19
Not gonna happen. This is a very popular gun on many levels. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #23
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