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MineralMan

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20. Yes, indeed. And it's still drawing crowds, too.
Sat May 4, 2019, 03:02 PM
May 2019

However, the prosperity gospel folks don't linger on the idea that your success or failure is preordained and can't be changed. That isn't a good selling point. So, that Calvinistic idea has been modified, so you can earn God's approval by following the preacher's advice and donating to his "ministry." In return, God will reward you and reveal your true "elect" status.

Whatever works, works. Preachers today are better at marketing than those of the past. Most mega-churches have ties to Calvinism, although those ties are not always transparently presented. The message that "Jesus wants you to prosper" is the only message needed to fleece the flock, apparently.

Today's prosperity gospel ministers are a particularly cynical sort of people, it seems. In their hearts, they have contempt for their flocks, and are certain of their own "election," so it doesn't really matter. They're "good with God!"

I can't stand 'em.

In the Twin Cities, Mac Hammond is a principal preacher in that mold. For at least a couple of years, he had a little spot, "Winner's Minute," that aired during the morning news on WCCO TV. Right after the weather and before the sports, there was Mac, uttering platitudes on the little screen. For some reason, he dropped that this year, at least on WCCO. He's a vile little man, and a big fan of right-wing Republicans, to boot.

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The most depressing religion there is. Never understood why anybody wanted to go to The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #1
Several denominations are based on Calvinism MineralMan May 2019 #2
Yes, the Presbyterians are the big one. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #3
Calvinism isn't what it once was. MineralMan May 2019 #5
Slow down a second- the first Great Awakening was in the mid 1700's and was... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #7
That's the one. Jonathan Edwards was part of it, too. MineralMan May 2019 #8
UCC may have some Calvinist and Puritan roots, but it's an amalgam of beliefs... TreasonousBastard May 2019 #6
Yes, the UCC has moved away from its Calvinist roots. MineralMan May 2019 #9
I think they leaned more toward the Arminians, with a fair amount of Lutheran stuff thrown in. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #18
👀 underpants May 2019 #4
As a man of science I would think you'd be more into Kelvinism! Blue Owl May 2019 #10
Indeed. I'm enjoying today's 290 degree weather quite a bit. MineralMan May 2019 #12
I was raised United Methodist The Genealogist May 2019 #11
The Right-Wing Has Bought into It. MineralMan May 2019 #13
I don't see the attraction, myself The Genealogist May 2019 #14
But, see, in Calvinism, if you're one of the "elect," MineralMan May 2019 #15
Ugh...thanks for the flashback to 1st semester of grad school The Genealogist May 2019 #16
It's an important part of American History, actually. MineralMan May 2019 #17
It's also the source, at least in part, of the Prosperity Gospel, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #19
Yes, indeed. And it's still drawing crowds, too. MineralMan May 2019 #20
Some Baptist denominations (aka metastases) are keen on Calvinism LastDemocratInSC May 2019 #21
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