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Neoma

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28. Ah, well, I don't believe that isolation equate loneliness 100% of the time.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 10:52 PM
Mar 2012

The first article you show me is six years old and at the end, mentions how there are more entertainment options and says that the social networking online might counter this effect. The article might be a bit outdated there.

The second article has some wonderful quotes in it,

"The connection between single living and loneliness is in fact quite weak."
(snip)
"Loneliness can be relative: it has been defined as an aversive emotional response to a perceived discrepancy between a person's desired levels of social interaction and the contact they're actually receiving. People tend to measure themselves against others, feeling particularly alone in communities where social connection is the norm. That's why collectivist cultures, like those in Southern Europe, have higher levels of loneliness than individualist cultures, Cacioppo says. For the same reason, isolated individuals feel most acutely alone on holidays like Christmas Eve or Thanksgiving, when most people are surrounded by family and friends."
(snip)
"So how many friends do you need to avoid loneliness? There's no magic number, according to Cacioppo. An introvert might need one confidante not to feel lonely, whereas an extrovert might require two, three, or four bosom buddies."


The third article is an opinion piece where he responded to the journal article, 3 years later. The study he's citing was a bit hard to get to, as his link is dead, but I found it without having to chuck up $14, due to free registry, thankfully. In the American Sociological Review, the study says:

P.9(361) "In general, the core discussion networks in 2004 are more closely tied to each other, are more frequently, and are longer-term relationships. Even more than in 1985. The discussion networks we measure in 2004 are the closest of closest ties."
P.21(373) "Possibly, we will discover that it is not so much a matter of increasing isolation, but a shift in the form and type of connection." ..."The evidence that we present here maybe an indicator of a shift in structures of affiliation."

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It is the same in the US but it has been improving. I used to teach a class at my home. One night appleannie1 Mar 2012 #1
The oldest Boomers found themselves new women but they were married to the same old men Warpy Mar 2012 #2
My Dad must have been a very unsual man in the 50s HockeyMom Mar 2012 #3
I was raised that way, too. I guess it's why I don't "get" a lot of stereotypes, particularly when MADem Mar 2012 #23
If women leave the housework to men Gman Mar 2012 #4
Yeah, because us stupid men don't know how to use a sponge snooper2 Mar 2012 #6
Well, then you've been trained well Gman Mar 2012 #7
"trained well" , I guess some PC folks would take offense to that... snooper2 Mar 2012 #8
My BIL is a very capable house husband. He LOVES to cook, kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #5
Come to think of it, mine is too. MADem Mar 2012 #25
I do dishes, laundry, and garbage, but I almost never vacuum. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #9
I know there's the patriarchy thing, but could it also be because... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #10
My dad and husband disprove that theory... Neoma Mar 2012 #11
They're great exceptions? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #12
They both know how to work as a team. Neoma Mar 2012 #14
I think that's part of our problem in the U.S. - we don't work as teams Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #16
Being independent and going into isolation isn't entirely a bad thing. Neoma Mar 2012 #19
Americans live incredibly isolated lives already. Do they need a little MORE isolation? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #26
Ah, well, I don't believe that isolation equate loneliness 100% of the time. Neoma Mar 2012 #28
I don't know if isolation could be good for human beings with human needs... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #29
It depends on what you are talking about, Women leave the bathroom in a mess snooper2 Mar 2012 #13
I know why. Whisp Mar 2012 #15
Women use more stuff in the bathroom lol Not to mention that we use lots of paper Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #17
That's an interesting article. I think areas that don't get a cleaning Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #18
I can only speak for my own household. ZenLefty Mar 2012 #20
In my household, none of us do the housework.... MADem Mar 2012 #21
Can't use the "If you mess it up..." rule. Neoma Mar 2012 #22
Ha ha! MADem Mar 2012 #24
My standard of "clean" is about 1/4 of my wife's lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #27
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