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In reply to the discussion: Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)40. well you've missed my points
The "data" you referred to -- the (antiquated) Koss study -- did NOT say what you depicted it as saying. You minimized the findings of that study horrifically and completely inaccurately.
The "assumption" you made, that 20% of women in the US are sexually victimized in their lifetime, is a number you apparently pulled out of a hat and conflicts with every actual study I've ever encountered.
When I saw a post claiming distrust of statistics because it doesn't match personal experience.
Actually, I'd be pretty confident that the personal experience reflects the huge and completely well known under-reporting of sexual offences against women. Since that phenomenon is so well known and established, we don't know why you're offering up data that disregard it.
Honestly I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to know if we are making life better for our young girls or not. I do not understand the reluctance of some to obtain anonymous comprehensive data.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about, that's what I don't have. What would you like us to do, go stand on the streetcorner and stop every 10th woman and submit a series of questions you have approved?
Your giving me anecdotes is like telling me everyone you know is voting for Obama.
Your speaking to me like this is like you presuming to teach your grandmother how to suck eggs. I'm not liking it very much. If you want some nice numbers to crunch, why don't you go find some? instead of looking specifically for anything you can find that will discredit the knowledge and experience of the women here? (the Brookline etc. list really didn't help your credibility any more than the misportrayal of the Koss research ... which you have failed to address ...)
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No/Stop should mean No/Stop to BOTH men and women. It doesn't always, but a preponderance of power
patrice
Feb 2012
#1
It sounds like the results of a poll in a backward male dominated third world country where women
libinnyandia
Feb 2012
#2
those survery results are horrifying. after all these decades of trying to talk, to instruct, about
niyad
Feb 2012
#6
I believe it would probably be worse here, given our country's backwards attitudes.
chrisa
Feb 2012
#48
a third of respondants women who flirt are partially responsible for being raped. 2% of rape false
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#9
not to mention the fact a woman can be raped more than once. i was with three friends. 3 rapes
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#15
walk downtown, go to college, work.... regardless of social economic environment
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#18
the point being, any person does not live all of life in one cloistured little safe environment
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#26
and... and for me, as a woman, with friends, mother, nieces, aunts.... that really does not matter
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#31
it is interesting and noted, how i said i read 80% and the poster pulls out 20%
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#33
i will just start the first time i remember. 12, in the lunch line the boy behind me
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#38
the discussion is.... the large portion of our female population being harrassed, assaulted and
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#42
we do this to psychologically protect ourselves. as long as we can blame other women for their rape
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2012
#19
well that one is more intentional, i doubt these women realize what they are doing
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2012
#21
yes, i teach both my boys and girls ways to be safe. an yes, the younger professor is right
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#27