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H-1B Visa Debate: Are Foreign Workers Taking American Tech Jobs? (Original Post) IronLionZion Mar 17 OP
"Debates" on mainstream media are generally not accurate. Ron Hira is THE expert. See what he has to say... jmbar2 Mar 17 #1
"stem shortage" of underpaid workers IbogaProject Mar 17 #2
I used to do labor mkt analysis for colleges jmbar2 Mar 17 #3
I have some experience with this concept ... aggiesal Mar 17 #4
Of course they are. They are cheaper. nt Phoenix61 Mar 17 #5

jmbar2

(6,828 posts)
1. "Debates" on mainstream media are generally not accurate. Ron Hira is THE expert. See what he has to say...
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:05 PM
Mar 17

He critiques the "Immigration industrial complex" for exploiting immigrant workers over US workers. There has been no "stem shortage" - just lies told to get support for raising H!-B visa caps. The collateral damage has been to American workers who invested in training to fill false "Shortages", taking on ruinous student loan debt, only to be laid off and replaced.

https://cis.org/Oped/New-data-show-no-STEM-worker-shortage

https://www.epi.org/blog/tech-and-outsourcing-companies-continue-to-exploit-the-h-1b-visa-program-at-a-time-of-mass-layoffs-the-top-30-h-1b-employers-hired-34000-new-h-1b-workers-in-2022-and-laid-off-at-least-85000-workers/

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20210713/112814/HMTG-117-JU01-Wstate-HiraR-20210713.pdf

jmbar2

(6,828 posts)
3. I used to do labor mkt analysis for colleges
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:29 PM
Mar 17

This lying has been rampant for decades. Higher Ed was a big part of it.

Anytime the "shortage" theme got going real strong, the government would give grants to higher ed to "train" the missing people. They'd create new programs, ramp up enrollments, and burn a whole other cohort. After seeing it happen over and over, I couldn't be part of it anymore.

aggiesal

(9,972 posts)
4. I have some experience with this concept ...
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:36 PM
Mar 17

Locally, Qualcomm is the biggest tech company in San Diego.
So big that Qualcomm is used as an economic indicator for SD County.

A friend works at Qualcomm was a manager.
I asked him why Qualcomm hires lots of H-1B engineers.
He said because everyone does this.

He then explained the process.
To hire an H-1B, the companies would have to prove that a U.S. worker can't doesn't have the skills needed to perform that job.
To prove that, the hiring company has to advertise the position for X numbers of days/weeks in the U.S.
He tells me that Qualcomm advertises the position in some non-tech newspaper in an obscure location like Big Bear Gazette (I don;t know if there is a Big Bear Gazette, but that's the example he used).
And after X numbers of days/weeks, the hiring company now satisfies the advertising requirement, and proceeds in hiring the H-1B candidate.

Why would they do it this way? Because, well all the other companies are doing it the same way.

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