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aggiesal

(11,027 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 12:56 PM 16 hrs ago

Can someone please explain to me what is the OFFSIDE rule in ⚽? ...

Attached is an image of yesterday's 1st Messi goal.
As you can see, Messi is ONSIDE, but his teammate is clearly OFFSIDE, yet this is considered a good goal.

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aggiesal

(11,027 posts)
4. It went ro Messi, but the goalie still has to account for the other player. ...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:11 PM
16 hrs ago

I've seen Offsides called under this dame condition, plenty of times.
Where a pass is made to the Onside player yet an Offside player on the opposite side of the field is flagged for Offsides.

I'll supply an image when I see this condition, to prove my point.

Bobstandard

(2,445 posts)
2. I'd welcome a short, cogent explanation
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:03 PM
16 hrs ago

I had to try to explain how offsides work without pictures and had a hard time

PS. I know that in an earlier game the ‘Messi rule’ accounted for at least one goal. Someone else will have to explain that too

underpants

(197,974 posts)
5. See post 3. I hope that's a good explanation
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:12 PM
16 hrs ago

The "Messi Rule" most commonly refers to the MLS off-field treatment rule. Implemented in 2024 to prevent time-wasting, it requires a player who stays down for more than 15 seconds to leave the field for two minutes if medical staff enter. Lionel Messi exposed a flaw in this rule when an opponent's foul forced him off the pitch, prompting his team's coach to criticize the rule for punishing the fouled team.

Bobstandard

(2,445 posts)
13. Thanks. I didn't realize there was an actual Messi rule
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 02:01 PM
15 hrs ago

I was being facetious mindful of how Messi, Mahomes,, and others so often come out on the good side of calls, or non calls.

underpants

(197,974 posts)
14. That's what I thought it referred to too
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 02:16 PM
14 hrs ago

He definitely gets calls. Balogun got a red for the same thing Messi did in another game.

EarlG

(23,778 posts)
9. If you know how offside works in hockey
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:33 PM
15 hrs ago

then consider that soccer’s rule is similar, except in hockey the blue line is visible and in a fixed position, whereas in soccer the blue line is invisible and it moves up and down the field in sync with whichever member of the defending team is standing closest to his own goal (not including the goalkeeper).

There are other complications (such as the question of whether an offside player is considered part of the play or not, as in the OP’s example) the rules for which tend to get fiddled with over time. But I’ve found the easiest way to explain basic offside is the “moving blue line” analogy.

Of course, it’s not very useful if the person you’re explaining it to doesn’t know hockey either.

underpants

(197,974 posts)
3. When the ball is passed, the player who ends up receiving it
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:08 PM
16 hrs ago

has to have two members of the opposite team between them and the goal. The key on that pic is that Messi received the pass. If his teammate had received it, that would be offsides.
That means they can’t be AHEAD in anyway of either player. Usually the goalie is in the goal area so that means there is a dance between the offensive player and the defender nearest to them. The defender may try to get them offside by running away from their own goal before the pass is made (risky) AND defenders will not go back too far towards their goal which limits how far the offensive player can venture towards the goal.

This doesn’t change even if there’s a melee right in front of the goal. Each pass (intended or not) is assessed.

I hope that helps.

House of Roberts

(6,740 posts)
6. What if the defending team is the last to touch the ball in a melee?
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:20 PM
15 hrs ago

Then an offensive player kicks it in? There's usually a lot of deflections in those situations.

underpants

(197,974 posts)
10. The defender touching it resets everything and the ball is open to everyone
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:35 PM
15 hrs ago

There was an instance of something like that in a game a few days ago. I forget which one.

So let’s say we are attacking. There’s a defender between us (and the goali is “on his line” - in the goal) I’m on the left and I shoot towards the far pole. You, the intrepid ball hound that you are, are ahead and realize you can redirect the ball and almost surely score. If the ball passes by the non goalie and you touch it first - offsides. If it hits the non goalie and it still gets to you - it’s onside.

If you never touch the ball, there’s no call at all.

GOALLL!!!!!

aggiesal

(11,027 posts)
7. Not buying it. I've seen Offsides called under this same condition, plenty of times. ...
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:25 PM
15 hrs ago

Where a pass is made to the Onside player yet an Offside player on the opposite side of the field is flagged for Offsides.

I'll supply an image when I see this condition again, to prove my point.

Also in the WC this year, I've seen fouls called outside the pentalty area, but the same foul not being called inside the penalty area. Almost like the referees were told not to award penalty kicks, unless a player is literally mugged or an obvious hand ball occurred.

Also, a lot more jersey pulling & arm/body holding then previous WC matches.

underpants

(197,974 posts)
11. That was how I understood it when I played
Sat Jul 4, 2026, 01:40 PM
15 hrs ago

What you described. Anyone offsides stops play but from what I’ve seen it’s changed.

I agree in the officiating. Canada and Morocco are beating the hell out of each other in this match. Oooh fight!!

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