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littlemissmartypants

(27,904 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:22 AM Wednesday

There's a Fascinating Hidden Reason That So Many High-Earning Tech Workers Are Getting Laid Off Now

Why didn't we know about this before?
Jun 7, 7:30 AM EDT

by
Noor Al-Sibai

A little-known change to the tax code during Donald Trump's first presidency just might be the driving factor behind all those tech layoffs over the past few years.

As Quartz reports, a 2017 change to a 70-year-old tax law governing business spending didn't go into effect until 2022 — and three years after it finally did, we can see how harmful the move was.

Back in 1954, the Internal Revenue Service enacted Section 174, a rule that let companies deduct 100 percent of their research and development (R&D) spending, including salaries for the people involved in it. As Quartz notes, companies like Microsoft and Apple were built upon a tax system that rewarded R&D by allowing all such expenditures to count as write-offs — a system that Trump quietly dismantled at the start of his first stint in the White House.

The president's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017 was perhaps most infamous for slashing corporate taxes from 35 percent to 21. To offset the money lost from those massive cuts and comply with the Senate's budget rules, Congressional Republicans quietly added various rate hikes to the bill that wouldn't kick in until later, and nixing Section 174's 100 percent R&D write-off was one such tactic.

https://futurism.com/hidden-tech-layoffs-reason

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LymphocyteLover

(8,141 posts)
2. this coupled with govt cuts to science wil effectively destroy American research leadership
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:20 AM
Wednesday

MAGA!

But really fucking MAGA idiots!

nuxvomica

(13,368 posts)
4. So I can blame Trump for my layoff
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:47 AM
Wednesday

It makes sense that this is what was happening where I worked. All the tech jobs were incrementally offshored starting in 2023. I was laid off just this past January. None of it made any sense, especially the excuse that they could do everything with AI.

IronLionZion

(49,124 posts)
5. Republicans love taking America backwards and killing jobs
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:16 AM
Wednesday

They want oligarchy with a servant class of American workers desperate for a few scraps.

thesquanderer

(12,649 posts)
11. Thanks, and it was a good attempt, but it still doesn't make sense to me.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 12:35 PM
Wednesday

Salaries (which generate W2s) and contractors (which generate 1099s) are all normally fully deductible in the year they happen, not amortized over the following 10-15 years as the article alludes to. Things like the building and development of facilities, equipment purchases etc., yes, those are kinds of things that are typically amortized over years and not normally immediately fully deductible, so then the relevance of such a change is clear. But the articles discuss personnel/salaries, where I don't see that relevance.

Ol Janx Spirit

(277 posts)
12. You are absolutely right about deducting salaries. I have to guess that the impact is...
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 01:22 PM
Wednesday

...more on the expense of R&D in equipment, materials, and other areas--and it also looks like there is a tax credit and not just deduction involved for some companies that may change that calculation.

This goes more in-depth and paints an even cloudier picture:
https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2024/jun/rights-for-the-research-development-credit-and-sec-174/#:~:text=Originally%20enacted%20in%201954%2C%20Sec,product%20development%20expenses%20under%20Sec.

Ol Janx Spirit

(277 posts)
7. See? He's not like a certain German leader at all. He knew well the value of R&D.... /s
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:52 AM
Wednesday

The MAGA movement really does feel like a Mongolian horde forcing its way past the walls of our cultural, scientific, philosophical, and economic-leading light of the world to destroy our libraries, our books, our hospitals, and our schools--and send us into a dark ages of their making.

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