I'd really appreciate it if people in Music Appreciation would limit themselves to a maximum of 10 OPs a day.

[highplainsdem]

Last edited Sun Mar 2, 2025, 05:14 PM - Edit history (2)

(Editing to add, per Mosby's suggestion in reply 36, that I'm the forum host.)

I hadn't thought it necessary to make this request before, but with only 80 threads per page, posting 20+ or even 30+ OPs in a single day (which has happened) means just a few people doing that can quickly push everyone else's OPs off the first page of the board.

Which is not good for a shared forum.

Even 10 a day is a lot. I thought about requesting a max of 5. But my impression has been that some people here seem to save up tracks they want to post for a particular day, so in that case, when they aren't posting every day, I could see them wanting to post more than 5 some evening.

But please keep in mind that this isn't a radio show for one person to choose the music. We're not DJs. The Music Appreciation group is a shared platform, with the first page of the board the main stage, where posts will get the most attention. Attention that should be shared.

I hope this request will seem fair. Please let me know what you think.

[BootinUp]

1. Seems reasonable. Nt

[highplainsdem]

4. Thanks! I was hoping it would.

[rubbersole]

2. The fewer you post, the more serious your posts seem.

IMHO.

[highplainsdem]

5. Understandable response.

[pwb]

3. I put people on ignore if they post too much

in any forum.

[highplainsdem]

6. I hope you make an exception for LBN, for the people posting the news stories there.

[pwb]

7. Anyone on ignore still shows up on the Front page

so I get the good stuff. Pushing others good posts down the page has always bothered me. Good job by you here by the way.

[highplainsdem]

9. Thanks! Re LBN - I know some people tend to dominate that forum. The names of people

who post most often there have changed over the years, though, and I appreciate everyone helping get news curated by Democrats posted on this site.

[highplainsdem]

10. kick

[OAITW r.2.0]

11. OK, can we make this monthly thing? Some nights I get on a roll and post like, 14 music threads. Then disappear for

5 days (14/5 = - 1.5 posts per day) _. Maybe make it a 60 MA max post per month limit? That's more reasonable, I guess, Though I don't really understand why this is a problem. Don't like? Don't click.

You've been a big MA poster...are you OK with this?

[highplainsdem]

12. No, we can't make it monthly, because people often look at only the first page of the board,

and a small number of people thinking it's fine to post more than 10 posts a day can really hog that first page and knock everybody else's posts back to page 2 very quickly.

This is a shared music appreciation forum, not "My Music Showcase" for anyone who wants to post a lot of their favorite music in one day.

10 posts is plenty. If 15 for you is fine, then I suppose we also have to say it's okay if someone else wants to post dozens of OPs in one day, because that seems reasonable to them?

With a limit of 15, just six people would take every space on the first page and spill onto the second page.

[OAITW r.2.0]

13. Whatever. I'm disappointed that you think posting in MA is a problem,. Don't like. Don't click.

Oh well. I had 15 more lined up, but will have to wait until 3/5.

[highplainsdem]

14. Posting in MA isn't a problem. Posting so many OPs in one day that your OPs take up a large chunk of

the only page of the board that gets much notice IS a problem.

It's unlikely we could come up with any limit that at least one person here wouldn't think was too low. Any limit under a few dozen OPs a day, anyway, since we've already had it go that high. At that rate, just two people's OPs would fill the first page. And even if those two people didn't post every day, that wouldn't be much comfort to the other people shoved off the first page by the two hogging it when they were posting that much.

Anyone else think it's unfair to ask people not to post more than 10 OPs a day?

After all, you can post more than one track in an OP, and in your own replies to the OP (which could each start subthreads).

Especially if you're posting more than one track by the same artist. As you were tonight, with your favorite artists.

[highplainsdem]

15. Re your saying you had 15 more lined up - you usually post no more than 10 OPs a day, max, not 25. I just went

back through all 30 pages of the board, back more than 2 months, and although there were a number of times you posted 10 or slightly fewer, there was only 1 time when you went over 10, to about 15. Those were technically on two different days, since you were posting some after midnight Central time, as you often do, but it was one block of late-night posts.

So it wouldn't be much of a change in how you post to not post more than 10 OPs a day.

Others here have been posting over 10 OPs a day at times. Sometimes over 20 or even over 30.

And possibly they weren't aware of how much they were pushing other people's posts off the first page of the board.

I wish I'd brought this up earlier.

[highplainsdem]

16. I looked back to your older MA threads, from last fall, and saw that you did post 15-25 threads on

at least a couple of nights then when you were "on a roll" as you said.

I suppose that could be where newer members might get the idea that it's fine to post dozens of threads in a single day. They won't know you don't do that a lot.

So I still think it would be best to limit it to 10.

I can't force anyone to do that.

But I do think it's inconsiderate to take a large fraction of the first page.

[OAITW r.2.0]

39. Took a few days off to recalibrate.

Actually, well calibrated at the moment. Lets talk soon on PM.

[highplainsdem]

40. Sure. It's good to see you back.

[jls4561]

26. I love your choices. Bookmark many of them.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. Seems A Reasonable Ask

I actually don't understand the pushback above.
The reasoning is clear & and it's a courtesy issue.

[highplainsdem]

18. Thanks! I'm trying not to be too restrictive.

[Swede]

19. I can do that.

Nt

[highplainsdem]

20. Thank you!

[eppur_se_muova]

21. Seriously. And why so many old pop songs that everyone here has heard a thousand times already ?? nt

[highplainsdem]

22. Thanks! Re the old songs - there are a lot of them here because they bring back good memories, and

a lot of those songs are good, period. Most DUers are older (I don't like to use the word "old" because many of us older adults are still young at heart, staying in shape, learning new things, trying new things, and NOT GIVING UP). Not only is it normal for most people to prefer the music they heard when they were younger, but for baby boomers there's a strong case to be made that classic rock has never been outdone, for a number of reasons - a huge boomer audience, lots of radio stations and especially independent radio stations finding and supporting new artists, record stores doing the same, and our generation's determination to try new things and break down barriers in all directions.

But it's good to see newer music here, too. And by "newer" I'd include music from artists who might've been releasing music for 10 or even 20 years or longer, but whose music would still be new to many if not most people here.

For that matter, a lot of recorded music going back a century will still be new to most of us, because none of us have heard all of it.

Nor is it likely any of us have heard all of classical music, though there's a separate DU group for that.

And there's an entire world of music out there with traditions and classics and new artists most of us aren't very familiar with, if we're aware of it at all.

So we're going to see a mix here, and should.

Btw, as long as I'm posting about newer music (as in recent decades) and also justifying loving classic rock, I'm going to link to my thread for Kaleo's I Walk On Water, which is an incredible newer song with a classic rock sound:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034139512

[sestina]

23. Kaleo

I remember hearing their song
Way Down We Go
on a college progressive radio station.
I had forgotten about them. I love his voice.

[highplainsdem]

24. Another great song. I posted their Lollapalooza Brasil 2018 set last Sunday. Way Down We Go is at

40:54 in it:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034139832

I love his voice, too.

Jökull Júlíusson. Aka JJ.

[sestina]

25. Thanks for the link

Bookmarked and looking forward to listening to all of it.

[Celerity]

50. deffo not from me!!!, lolololol

so many old pop songs that everyone here has heard a thousand times already

I post a lot of tunes (and often full albums and DJ mixes), but always try to limit myself to avoid saturation bombing the forum, and I do not post very day. I also put soem efforts into my posts, with infomation, pics, etc. I almsot never just post a video with nothing else added (typical example: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034139695 ).

My choices are pretty eclectic as well, as you can see:

[RandomNumbers]

55. Well ..... I posted one that I'm pretty sure is NOT in that bucket.

No recs, except my own. But I was sure it was a compelling song, sigh.

(I normally don't beg for recs or anything, just answering your question with a possible reason why people might post more obviously popular music than posting something special but more obscure and feel ignored when no one else seems to like it.)

[marble falls]

27. Please. How about all those cross posted OPs? How about all those OPs that contain nothing more than ...

... non sequitur title and a non sequitur message body? How about not allowing more than five total posts for the day of duplicate topics (how many times do we need to know that X Musk ate boogers on live TV and swore at 'dad'?)? How about opting to drop MA from one's feed? How Many more "tr*mp is a crazy jerk" do we need - after all this time NO ONE is surprised by that thought and nobody here would debate it. How about limiting the number of OPs a member can post a day.

Maybe music ought to be put into a radio format: as an optional background music. But it would still need to be listed.

[highplainsdem]

28. ??????????? As far as cross-posts,

sometimes they're very useful to reach a particular group of DUers.

As for duplicate posts about something that happened that people find interesting politically - many of those are likely to be from people just logging in to DU who aren't aware it was posted before. But the fact that there are duplicate posts from multiple people doesn't justify limitless posts from one person in one day about music they like.

How about opting to drop MA from one's feed?

I hope people won't do that, but I can understand people unsubscribing from or even trashing this or any other forum they're not interested in, if they want to limit what they see here.

How Many more "tr*mp is a crazy jerk" do we need - after all this time NO ONE is surprised by that thought and nobody here would debate it.

Yes, we could have cut off any such reactions to Trump in 2016, and then we'd have one 9-year-old thread with a million replies that would never open.

You're suggesting banning emotional reactions to Trump on a political website that's as popular as it is because people use DU to vent.

How about limiting the number of OPs a member can post a day.

If EarlG made such a rule, I'd follow it. After all, I can post elsewhere, on Twitter and Bluesky and Reddit, and I can get a lot more views on Reddit, over half a million at times - though I follow their rules when there.

Maybe music ought to be put into a radio format: as an optional background music. But it would still need to be listed.

Some people here have linked to their own online radio shows, or a playlist, and it's common here to put multiple tracks in one OP, especially when posting multiple tracks by one artist on the same day.

There's no way to make MA into optional background music, and even if you could, it would likely be lagging far behind. posts.

Anyway, nothing you mentioned here is a good argument against asking people on this Music Appreciation board to limit themselves to a max of ten posts a day.

This board is NOT current events, like LBN and GD and E&OA, where you might see huge surges in activity, and where it's understandable that threads will quickly slip off the first page at those times.

It's people posting about music they like or find interesting, and with a limited number of spaces on the first page, there's no reason any one DUer posting here needs a big chunk of that page to tell others what music they like. There's always more days to post, as long as this board is here.

Ten threads lets them post ten songs if posted separately, or up to hundreds of songs if they post multiple songs in an OP or replies they add to an OP.

Are you really suggesting that's unfair and too restrictive because there are cross-posts, or DUers sometimes duplicating other people's posts, elsewhere on DU?

[marble falls]

29. I've never had that many question marks before. If I were wearing my glasses I'd have counted them ...

... I was hoping that my point was: everybody has some faction they feel needs regulating. I have no problem with the posting rate of any niche here. I can always go to the page 2 and see if I missed anything. If anything I go by the poster than by the headline, anyways. I don't think I've gone over 10 in a day, but I try to pick in the evening news generally slow. But that's the hair-pin I am. I try to do 15 minute sets.

[OAITW r.2.0]

41. I suggest opening a MA window, than a DU Discussion window. Play my selections and read the news.

[marble falls]

46. I try to do that with two windows but then I have to break back and forth to cue up. If it just played a feed of ...

... of music posts or allowed a bank of music.

[highplainsdem]

30. kick

[quaint]

31. Great idea.

Re-subscribing.

[highplainsdem]

32. Thanks! And welcome back!

[lastlib]

33. Why are we singling out Massachusetts?

[highplainsdem]

34. LOL!

[highplainsdem]

35. I know you meant that as a joke, and I enjoyed it, but I just edited the thread title so there's no chance

anyone who's new to MA/Music Appreciation could misread it.

I've never been to Massachusetts, but a friend of mine who lives there tried for years to convince me to move there. He thought the center of the universe was a small area including Beacon Hill and Nantucket, where he lived, and he once sent me a map of the US with Boston the focus and much of the country labeled "unknown" or something like that.

Of course, I met New Yorkers when I lived in Manhattan who felt the same way about NYC...

[Mosby]

36. Suggestion

I'm kinda new to this group, you should put in your OP that you are the host of the group. I agree with you BTW, it's a reasonable thing to ask.

[highplainsdem]

37. Good idea, and I just edited the OP. My name is on the threads pinned to the top of the board,

the welcome and guidelines posted there, which should make it clear that I host this forum. And my profile also mentions that. But I guess it's possible newcomers could be unaware of it.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, and for saying you agree that the request I made here is reasonable.

[Mosby]

38. I use mobile view

Your name doesn't show up in pinned threads.

FYI.

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

42. Seems a little weird to restrict posts

Thought the whole idea was to share music.

By posting here, I thought IF one “happens to be on a roll”,
And posting 10, 20, or 30… WHO GIVES DAMN ANYWAY?

if the TITLE interests one, you click post,,
Otherwise,,, just as any FORUM at DU, you don’t click post.

Pretty simple.

Some people zoom into DU for a day or an afternoon,,,
And maybe don’t return to a particular DU Forum for weeks.

Kinda strange that a MUSIC APPRECIATION Forum
is limiting Music posts.

Before I started posting at this Music forum,
I would scan what music is posted,,, scan page 1, scan page 2,
And scan page 3,,, and sometimes more..

I only clicked on the songs that peaked my interest

So NO, I sure don’t understand a DU moderator for MUSIC APPRECIATION
to hinder MUSIC being posted.

That’s just bizarre

[highplainsdem]

43. No one's stopping you from sharing music, as long as you keep in mind that we're sharing a

platform.

Following your reasoning, it should be fine if someone wants to post hundreds or more threads a day. Maybe even fill all 30 pages of the board.

It wouldn't be. Even if they complained that not being allowed to take over the board was "hindering music" somehow.

This forum isn't only about the music YOU appreciate, and when you post dozens of threads in a day, as you have, you are hogging too much space on the first page, which is the board page most likely to get seen by others. You're hindering others from having much chance of their posts being seen there.

10 posts a day is plenty, even when you're on a roll, IF you're willing to consider the other people who post here.

Especially since you can always put more than one song in a thread.

[Figarosmom]

44. I have other things to do anyway.

It's just that posting let's me listen without ads cutting in to longer cuts.

[highplainsdem]

45. Wouldn't putting multiple songs in a thread do the same thing? I agree it's nice to have the ads cut

out, and I've sometimes just previewed videos here, without posting them, just to listen to them.

[marble falls]

48. Why couldn't we put all the news in one big post?

[highplainsdem]

49. You know that isn't comparable.

[marble falls]

54. You know I am exagerating to make my point: there isn't a poster here that doesn't wish at least ...

... one other specific poster and/or niche of posters would change their posting habits. If we all had our way this would not be Democratic Underground.

[marble falls]

47. good point!

[MiHale]

51. How about posting the songs in one big OP?...

Instead of single posts take some time and do it by theme.

[highplainsdem]

52. Yes. I mentioned in a few of the replies above, and in the addition to the guidelines pinned to

the top of the board - https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034140274 - that people can always post more than one song in an OP or add more in their own replies to their OP. That happens a lot here anyway, especially when posting about one artist. I've sometimes done it when posting different versions/covers of the same song.

I'm not suggesting, either, that people who want to post a number of songs have to limit themselves to one mega-OP. But it's an option.

For instance, I posted an OP last night about Xander and the Peace Pirates, a very good young British band whose frontman, also a brilliant guitarisr, was born without a lower right arm. I had an article on them from a guitar magazine, a video of a BBC feature story on their frontman, and three music videos. Could have posted those in multiple OPs, and maybe gotten more attention by taking all those spaces on the board, but it made more sense to post them in one OP - https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034140374 - and left more room for others.

[ZDU]

53. Rapid-fire LISTEN to me!!!

Yeah, I had to step away. I love music yet the rapid-fire posting was way too much for me. I'll return when I get better yet I need to step away today. Y'all take good care. See you on the other side.
ZDU