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Jilly_in_VA

(13,829 posts)
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:05 PM 22 hrs ago

Grammatical pet peeves

There are some things that just grind my gears, yet they are so common, even in journalism, that they are almost standard today. I can't really tell you which is my no. 1, so I'll just list them in no particular order.

1. Could of, would of, should of. NO! It's could HAVE, would HAVE, should HAVE! I learned this in fourth grade, FFS!!! Where were you? This is just lazy.

2. "Here's what" to know. Grrr. Unnecessary verbiage, and silly besides. Either "What to know", which makes perfect sense and is concise and to the point, or "This is what to know," which is grammatically correct but unnecessary verbiage. "Here's what" is lazy.

3. What I call the "sportscaster glitch" because that's where I hear it most often, and usually (forgive me) from male sportscasters. The women don't seem to do it as much. "He ran such and such, did Lawrence," is my imperfect example, but anyone who's listened to or watched football or basketball has heard this absolutely cringey thing repeatedly.

Okay, what are yours? This is my diversionary tactic on a Monday morning.

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Grammatical pet peeves (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA 22 hrs ago OP
To play "Outstanding" justaprogressive 21 hrs ago #1
Asking "Right?" following every other statement. Frasier Balzov 21 hrs ago #2
Diversion Greatly Appreciated! The Roux Comes First 21 hrs ago #3
To quote Calvin and Hobbes Jilly_in_VA 21 hrs ago #4
The journalism problem comes from fewer and fewer actual editors on the job... Wounded Bear 13 hrs ago #20
I Wholly Agree About the Underemployment of Those Trained in Correct Use of the Language in Print The Roux Comes First 10 hrs ago #37
All of the... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #5
apostrophes used to make a plural yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #32
"Irregardless" drives me insane as does your #1 re: "Of" instead of "have". LoisB 21 hrs ago #6
Same here question everything 20 hrs ago #14
"Invite" used as a noun. Croney 21 hrs ago #7
Everything listed on the thread but lately, all the "Gamer" terms for everything: "Level Up," most hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #8
Using "I" instead of me as the object of a preposition. Thinking Diane on Cheers among many. efhmc 20 hrs ago #9
Great minds think alike! MIButterfly 20 hrs ago #11
It is odd that people mess this up so much. 3catwoman3 12 hrs ago #24
With you. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #33
I have just recently become aware of "level up". I do not understand it at all. LoisB 19 hrs ago #16
People misusing "I" and "me." MIButterfly 20 hrs ago #10
Just reading those examples made me want to scream. efhmc 20 hrs ago #12
Nor do you hear anyone say, "Us had our picture taken." 3catwoman3 12 hrs ago #25
Improper use of between and among. Callalily 20 hrs ago #13
"Media" and "data" are plural nouns Rastapopoulos 20 hrs ago #15
I could care less. boonecreek 19 hrs ago #17
Then/than sorcrow 18 hrs ago #18
Nope. Sorry. Number 2 has led to two whole generation who think "What to know" is a question. Iggo 18 hrs ago #19
I'll throw in misuse of "lose" and "loose".... Wounded Bear 13 hrs ago #21
it is odd Skittles 11 hrs ago #30
In the Liberty Mutual "Limu Emu" commercials, Totally Tunsie 13 hrs ago #22
"I" being turned into a possessive, as in John and I's vacation. Aauuugggghhhhh! 3catwoman3 12 hrs ago #23
Ask as a noun. Grrr Blues Heron 11 hrs ago #26
I'm an author... Rizen 11 hrs ago #27
Incorrect apostrophes...it's.. it's surfered 11 hrs ago #28
"I SEEN" Skittles 11 hrs ago #29
Finger nails on the blackboard. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #34
I used to see it in work emails Skittles 10 hrs ago #38
"What do you got?", or "what have you got?"... Enter stage left 11 hrs ago #31
AnywayS. I hear it on tv often, and I correct the person. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #35
"It was like, really funny!" bif 11 hrs ago #36
I am a bit of a grammer freak. Jeebo 9 hrs ago #39
Now you're getting into regionalisms, though Jilly_in_VA 2 hrs ago #40

justaprogressive

(6,315 posts)
1. To play "Outstanding"
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:16 PM
21 hrs ago

which would suggest that "Outstanding" is the name of a game!

Correct: to play Outstandingly

to play outstanding football

XXXX whose play is outstanding...

Adjectives are not adverbs!

Frasier Balzov

(4,891 posts)
2. Asking "Right?" following every other statement.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:21 PM
21 hrs ago

Not so much a grammatical error, more of a verbal crutch.

As though the speaker is desperately seeking unearned concurrence.

Once you notice it, you will begin to observe how pervasive a speech pattern this has become.

The Roux Comes First

(2,163 posts)
3. Diversion Greatly Appreciated!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:22 PM
21 hrs ago

Several come to mind.

I never subscribed to the idea that "data" suddenly transformed into a singular noun. It's as if we suddenly moved wholesale to the metric system without even any real debate on the subject.

There are several less-common verbs that seem to be frequently cast recently as no longer having separate forms for various tenses. I'm struggling to think of the two or three I see every week or so, where the over-simplistic lazy approach of adding a suffix is commonly used now. The verb "slide" is not one, but it comes to mind I guess because at least one offender starts with "s." I have yet to see "slided" in use, but it would be the equivalent, with "slid" having been discarded.

And a more general "bone" is what seems like an overall deterioration in the quality of editing and proofreading in journalism. Onerous grammatical and even spelling errors feel rampant these days, even in headlines. Or is it just my growing curmudgeon?

Wounded Bear

(63,866 posts)
20. The journalism problem comes from fewer and fewer actual editors on the job...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:53 PM
13 hrs ago

Many articles are published directly by the author, all of whom should really know better, but apparently don't.

The Roux Comes First

(2,163 posts)
37. I Wholly Agree About the Underemployment of Those Trained in Correct Use of the Language in Print
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:22 PM
10 hrs ago

Most of the technically trained engineers and scientists I worked with for decades "knew" they were gifted with the language (look at all the education they had!) and tended to disrespect and even dodge proofers and editors (and rarely if ever even knew the difference), and greatly resented it when their foibles (not to mention their self-delusion!) were pointed out, often through multiple drafts.

A secondary point - never rely on built-in spell-check and other features if you care how you come across in print. Re-read your work before publishing. And then re-read it again. Of course that assumes you are a careful and thorough reader - often not a good assumption.

2naSalit

(100,129 posts)
5. All of the...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:49 PM
21 hrs ago

Peeves mentioned above plus misplaced apostrophes!

And the inability to know the difference between then and than.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Disclaimer though, sometimes I misused words and spelling for expression in some contexts.

Croney

(4,991 posts)
7. "Invite" used as a noun.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:57 PM
21 hrs ago

Yes, I know it's accepted usage now. I just don't like it. Also, "impact" as a verb. Same reason.

hlthe2b

(112,869 posts)
8. Everything listed on the thread but lately, all the "Gamer" terms for everything: "Level Up," most
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:19 PM
20 hrs ago

recently. There is a woman who does a commercial for Shopify (I think) and it is constantly all about how she "leveled up" with her business this and on and on...That is where I have heard the term most recently (and constantly), but I know it is in use for other ads too--as well as among the talking heads in round-table discussions about anything but gaming.

Other than that, the constant use of "me and him/her/group etc." went somewhere or did something. Even those who should (seemingly) know better. Ditto the use of "ain't" when I know they know better and that is increasingly being used in ads. I don't mean when they are intentionally trying to make a point, but just use it.

I will add the mandatory qualifier that I have been known to make my share of grammatical errors as well as spelling mistakes (or typos). But, I don't make the most obvious ones (or at least not more than once if pointed out).

efhmc

(16,101 posts)
9. Using "I" instead of me as the object of a preposition. Thinking Diane on Cheers among many.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:30 PM
20 hrs ago

Use to holler at the TV every time she did it. Which was often: i.e."between you and I"

3catwoman3

(28,632 posts)
24. It is odd that people mess this up so much.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:53 PM
12 hrs ago

You never hear anyone say "between we."

MIButterfly

(2,132 posts)
10. People misusing "I" and "me."
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:41 PM
20 hrs ago

Example: "He took a picture of my brother and I." You wouldn't say "He took a picture of I"; why would you say "He took a picture of my brother and I"? I know it's extremely common; I hear it all the time. I even see it written by professional writers, such as authors and journalists (in other words, people who should know better) and I don't understand it at all. Is it trendy? Grammar isn't supposed to be trendy.

Drives me straight up a wall.

And then they'll say "Me and my brother had our picture taken" instead of "My brother and I had our picture taken."

3catwoman3

(28,632 posts)
25. Nor do you hear anyone say, "Us had our picture taken."
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:54 PM
12 hrs ago

If you can get it right in the plural, why not in the singular.

Callalily

(15,314 posts)
13. Improper use of between and among.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:58 PM
20 hrs ago

Use "between" for two distinct items, concepts, or points in space/time

Use "among" as a preposition meaning in the middle of, included with, or in a group of three or more things/people, indicating a collective or indistinct relationship

Rastapopoulos

(726 posts)
15. "Media" and "data" are plural nouns
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:08 PM
20 hrs ago

and require plural verbs, to be strictly correct. I've pretty much given up on those, though.

boonecreek

(1,396 posts)
17. I could care less.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:34 PM
19 hrs ago

No, it's I couldn't care less.

Not knowing the difference between your and you're.

sorcrow

(655 posts)
18. Then/than
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:53 PM
18 hrs ago

I worked with a PhD engineer who consistently exchanged them. He would have done better if he had just used one of them, and then he would be right at least half the time.

Regards,
Sorghum Crow

Iggo

(49,669 posts)
19. Nope. Sorry. Number 2 has led to two whole generation who think "What to know" is a question.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:03 PM
18 hrs ago

(See YouTube video titles for mountains of evidence.)

It’s a sentence fragment. The whole sentence is “Here is what to know.”

Wounded Bear

(63,866 posts)
21. I'll throw in misuse of "lose" and "loose"....
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:55 PM
13 hrs ago

Funny thing is, that it's usually "loose" being used wrong, and it's a letter longer.

Skittles

(169,691 posts)
30. it is odd
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:41 PM
11 hrs ago

goose is not pronounced GOOZE, moose is not pronounced MOOZE so I don't really understand why people get LOSE/LOOSE wrong so often

Totally Tunsie

(11,592 posts)
22. In the Liberty Mutual "Limu Emu" commercials,
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:11 PM
13 hrs ago

"You only pay for what you use."

NO!

You don't "only pay"...You pay for only what you use.

I wince each time I hear that misplaced usage.

3catwoman3

(28,632 posts)
23. "I" being turned into a possessive, as in John and I's vacation. Aauuugggghhhhh!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:51 PM
12 hrs ago

And the plural possessive of guys is guys', NOT guyses! I've even heard Rachel Maddow use this. It makes me want to scream.

Blues Heron

(8,418 posts)
26. Ask as a noun. Grrr
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:18 PM
11 hrs ago

Also missing T’s but that’s more of a pronunciation peeve.

And of course “of course” instead of “your welcome”

Rizen

(1,029 posts)
27. I'm an author...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:19 PM
11 hrs ago

and one of the ways I write unintelligent characters is by having them use bad grammar.

Enter stage left

(4,278 posts)
31. "What do you got?", or "what have you got?"...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:42 PM
11 hrs ago

It should be "what do you have?"

I hear it constantly on TV and normal conversation, it drives me crazy.

yellow dahlia

(4,639 posts)
35. AnywayS. I hear it on tv often, and I correct the person.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:47 PM
11 hrs ago

Disrespect as a verb. It may have become acceptable in the vernacular, but not by me.

Jeebo

(2,552 posts)
39. I am a bit of a grammer freak.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:19 AM
9 hrs ago

I retired 11 years ago after 45 years in the newsroom of a morning newspaper. For some reason, some grammar errors don't really bother me, but there are quite a few that drive me up the wall. There is the difference between "lie" and "lay", for example. Many of my former co-workers don't get that. Ditto the difference between between "waiting for" and "waiting on". "Waiting on" is an active state; "waiting for" is a passive state. That's why your waitperson in your favorite restaurant is actively waiting on you, while you are sitting there passively waiting while the waitperson is filling your order. I have lots more, but no time to think of them now. Some have been noted in this thread by other posters, though.

-- Ron

Jilly_in_VA

(13,829 posts)
40. Now you're getting into regionalisms, though
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 07:18 AM
2 hrs ago

"Waiting on" is perfectly good Southern-speak, and I'm quite used to it, having heard perfectly genteel older folks use it for much of my life. It's like waiting "on line" which I never heard until I was exposed to New Yorkers in college, or a number of other regionalisms.

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