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What do you consider a "lost art" these days? (Original Post) Diamond_Dog Mar 8 OP
Driving a manual tranny SheltieLover Mar 8 #1
My husband and all 3 of my sons own manual shift cars. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #2
Good for you folks! SheltieLover Mar 8 #6
That's true in most places, I would think! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #13
For sure! SheltieLover Mar 8 #15
I no longer bother to lock my car. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #54
Just FYI: Ins will not pay if it is stolen or vandalized SheltieLover Mar 8 #59
For what it's worth, I live in Santa Fe, NM. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #65
I'm not so sure I could remember all the moves, depressing the pedal, all synchronized. CTyankee Mar 8 #72
Good you don't leave the key in it for sure SheltieLover Mar 8 #99
Have almost 200K on mine with only the front multigraincracker Mar 8 #86
It surely does SheltieLover Mar 8 #97
I have a 25 year old van with 200k on it. multigraincracker Mar 8 #102
Awesome! SheltieLover Mar 8 #103
I learned at a young age samplegirl Mar 8 #26
Me too, 1st car I drove was a '69 Camero SS SheltieLover Mar 8 #43
I took Driver's Ed in HS back in '82, and my uncle was upset when I told him we were learning on an automatic. Xavier Breath Mar 8 #70
The attraction is longevity, esp in extreme heat SheltieLover Mar 9 #138
Then I guess I'm willing to chance the "spaghetti"-related issues I've (luckily) not experienced for the convenience. Xavier Breath Mar 9 #145
Sadly, the Memphis region SheltieLover Mar 9 #147
Sorry to hear. Xavier Breath Mar 9 #148
Food? SheltieLover Mar 9 #149
Yeah, I was thinking of the BBQ. Xavier Breath Mar 9 #152
Yeah, bbq & catfish are everywhere. SheltieLover Mar 9 #153
Me, too! buzzycrumbhunger Mar 8 #78
And the clutch survived that lesson? Lol SheltieLover Mar 9 #139
It did! buzzycrumbhunger Mar 9 #157
Probably keep stupid car thieves from stealing your cars. demosincebirth Mar 8 #39
Absolutely! SheltieLover Mar 8 #44
Small appliance repair, too! CrispyQ Mar 8 #31
I'm 76 and I drive a 2017 Honda Fit PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #53
I can do that! dhol82 Mar 8 #77
I can drive stick. Clouds Passing Mar 9 #150
Agreed, on the basic civility. n/t yellow dahlia Mar 8 #130
Scrimshaw nt Drum Mar 8 #3
Yes indeed Drum. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #4
Cave paintings underpants Mar 8 #5
If there's anyone to revive that art, True Dough Mar 8 #10
😆😆😆😆😆 underpants Mar 8 #36
That's going back a long time! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #14
I'm old school. underpants Mar 8 #35
Repairing 8-track tapes and machines Zambero Mar 8 #7
Agree ... repairing ANY electronics is a lost art for sure! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #16
Keep in mind those old TVs had things like PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #56
When I was a kid our family would go months without a television... hunter Mar 9 #159
Thank you for the memories, hunter! Diamond_Dog Mar 9 #160
film splicing WhiteTara Mar 8 #76
Yep. I learned to splice film in college. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #88
Negotiating Jilly_in_VA Mar 8 #8
How true, Jilly _in_Va Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #17
Funny, I was thinking compromise bottomofthehill Mar 8 #60
Compromising is indeed a lost art. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #89
Pen and ink drafting on vellum. EarnestPutz Mar 8 #9
Yes! Now it's all done on a computer. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #19
In an age where almost everyone has a device in their hand, True Dough Mar 8 #11
That is a great answer, True Dough! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #20
Gone because of those same devices, the art of chit chat questionseverything Mar 8 #101
Absolutely, questionseverything! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #110
Years ago, we had a "4 on the floor" drive car (I think it was British). I loved the thrill of zooming around in it! CTyankee Mar 8 #12
I had a high school friend who had an MG midget, I remember how much fun it was to zoom around in! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #22
I had a Midget, too. Def fun! SheltieLover Mar 8 #45
I had one too! bamagal62 Mar 8 #62
Do you still drive a Miata? SheltieLover Mar 8 #63
Unfortunately, no. bamagal62 Mar 8 #66
Well at least you were able to escape the United States of Extortion! SheltieLover Mar 8 #98
I haven't escaped! bamagal62 Mar 8 #104
I'm sorry to hear that SheltieLover Mar 8 #106
I'm 63. Not going anywhere. bamagal62 Mar 8 #107
I hear you... SheltieLover Mar 8 #108
Blacksmithing Ptah Mar 8 #18
Aren't there still blacksmiths around? Granted not as in demand as years ago. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #23
Aren't there people that still handwrite letters? Ptah Mar 8 #25
I suppose there are a few. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #27
I do, I do! quaint Mar 8 #51
My friend Don hand writes letters. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #57
That was popular with hipsters about 10+ years ago underpants Mar 8 #40
Sewing. mwmisses4289 Mar 8 #21
Sewing, yes! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #24
I can do basic sewing, mwmisses4289 Mar 8 #33
My maternal grandmother was a very accomplished seamstress - self-taught, IIRC. 3catwoman3 Mar 8 #46
I can do a hem. I darned a thick yarned sock slipper for my sis. Learned on line....My mom was... electric_blue68 Mar 10 #162
The three 'C's. OldBaldy1701E Mar 8 #28
Thats very true, OldBaldy1701E. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #90
Effective communication.... FarPoint Mar 8 #29
A gentle reminder: Good grammer is not equal to good communication LearnedHand Mar 8 #50
*Grammar JoseBalow Mar 8 #67
Hah dang I knew that! LearnedHand Mar 8 #87
Yes, typo's happen.... FarPoint Mar 8 #93
Noice JoseBalow Mar 8 #94
To be completely honest.... FarPoint Mar 8 #95
I was complimenting you on your typo JoseBalow Mar 8 #96
OK FarPoint Mar 8 #109
Yes and that's a great example, LearnedHand. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #92
Okay, what exactly do you mean by PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #58
IYKYK JoseBalow Mar 8 #68
YASFOBTISER. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 8 #69
I read news articles all the time with bad grammar! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #91
So many things samplegirl Mar 8 #30
Even re-slinging chairs appears to be an art. Shermann Mar 8 #52
And you did the seats too I suppose...n/t marked50 Mar 8 #82
That's surely a lost art! Do you think you could still do it? Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #111
Very much so samplegirl Mar 8 #32
Christmas cards are really dwindling. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #112
Driving a stick shift, gapping points in a distributor, splicing recording tape, Ocelot II Mar 8 #34
I hear they don't even teach cursive writing in schools anymore Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #113
I would say "writing," period. malthaussen Mar 8 #37
Especially when you read posts and comments on some web sites Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #114
Everything is a lost art, our smart phone gizmos are sapping our time bucolic_frolic Mar 8 #38
Working on your own car DBoon Mar 8 #41
Working on his car was a big part of my husband's younger days! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #115
Basic civility, as said in the first reply. 3catwoman3 Mar 8 #42
Tv repair SheltieLover Mar 8 #47
Reading & writing cursive SheltieLover Mar 8 #48
Appliances, cars, etc. Mfd to standards of high quality SheltieLover Mar 8 #49
Governing this country? Turbineguy Mar 8 #55
Especially the current regime! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #119
Intellectualism itself is a lost art. Rizen Mar 8 #61
It never used to be that way. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #116
If a pastor says it, it must be true. They're a man of god, why would they lie!? Clouds Passing Mar 9 #155
Knife sharpening bamagal62 Mar 8 #64
Sharpening Maninacan Mar 8 #71
A scissor sharpening service!!! bamagal62 Mar 8 #85
That's true, bamagal62. I don't know any place that sharpens knives. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #118
Call your hairstylist jmowreader Mar 9 #140
Having patience with others. Xavier Breath Mar 8 #73
Everyone is either angry or in a hurry. Or both. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #127
Sadly, that seems true for most Americans. Xavier Breath Mar 9 #146
Shoe Repair Shops KitFox Mar 8 #74
Buggy whips Topomi Mar 8 #75
Oh I loved the shoe repair guy! He could fix anything! Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #120
Land navigation without the use of GPS Aviation Pro Mar 8 #79
My car is so old I don't have GPS. So, it's a map in the glove compartment for me. Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #121
Trolling JoseBalow Mar 8 #80
Political correctness! AKwannabe Mar 8 #81
Writing a check from the checkbook and navigating by road atlas or paper maps Niagara Mar 8 #83
I still write checks at the doctors' office. Thankfully only 2-3 a year Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #122
Making fishing flies by hand. SWBTATTReg Mar 8 #84
You are right, SWBTATTReg Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #123
Yes, and thank you. I loved it man...nothing like going out on the water, and just fly fish. I grew up that way. SWBTATTReg Mar 9 #136
I'm sorry, my 'you would an insect/fly/?' remark was screwed up, I meant of course that if you see an insect or fly SWBTATTReg Mar 9 #137
Ironing. MIButterfly Mar 8 #100
Did your mom have a water bottle that she shook over the item to be ironed? It sprinkled water Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #125
Yes, she had a spray bottle of water that she used! MIButterfly Mar 8 #134
Almost everything Cirsium Mar 8 #105
Life comes a us fast, doesn't it? Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #126
Destruction Cirsium Mar 9 #158
Typesetting, operating a Linotype! Ocelot II Mar 8 #117
I worked in a commercial print shop but never was called upon for typesetting Diamond_Dog Mar 8 #124
Critical thinking. RockRaven Mar 8 #128
You beat me to this! That was my idea, as well. hamsterjill Mar 8 #133
Dressing for the occasion. Aristus Mar 8 #129
I agree with you Aristus Diamond_Dog Mar 9 #141
I agree w/ the basic civility answer. yellow dahlia Mar 8 #131
Yes to all three, yellow dahlia. Diamond_Dog Mar 9 #142
Cobbling. Texasgal Mar 8 #132
Quality shoes are a thing of the past. Diamond_Dog Mar 9 #143
Being a printer CountAllVotes Mar 9 #135
Your Dad sounds like a true treasure, Thank you for your post CountAllVotes.. Diamond_Dog Mar 9 #144
I truly loved my father CountAllVotes Mar 9 #156
Identifying sarcasm? Clearly a lost art here chicoescuela Mar 9 #151
doing basic arithmatic by hand DBoon Mar 9 #154
Spelling Wicked Blue Mar 9 #161
When I misplaced my friend's framed and signed painting. Intractable Mar 10 #163

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
2. My husband and all 3 of my sons own manual shift cars.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:21 PM
Mar 8

I could probably drive one in an emergency but I like my automatic!

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
6. Good for you folks!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:25 PM
Mar 8

Same here. 3 out of 4 cars are manual. I prefer an auto too.

In the Memphis region, having a manual is considered an anti-theft device as thieves quite often abandon them when they figure out they can't make the car move.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,784 posts)
54. I no longer bother to lock my car.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:35 PM
Mar 8

I doubt any kid who'd want to steal it (and seriously, a 2017 Honda Fit?) could actually operate it.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
59. Just FYI: Ins will not pay if it is stolen or vandalized
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 8

And there is no visible sign of forced entry.

Here it would def be vandalized if unlocked.

Glad you apparently live somewhere more civilized!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,784 posts)
65. For what it's worth, I live in Santa Fe, NM.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:04 PM
Mar 8

And no, this is not a low car-theft rate state:

New Mexico has a high auto theft rate, ranking fifth in the nation for vehicle thefts, with over 10,000 vehicles stolen in 2023, a rate of 534 thefts per 100,000 vehicles, which is 74% higher than the national average


I'm still thinking that owning a stick is pretty good protection from car theft.

Also, although I almost never lock it any more, I never leave the key inside. Or leave it running with the key and a small child inside. I'm referring to specific incidents I'm aware of.

Of course, if I wanted to take up a life of car theft, I could pretty much steal anything, couldn't I?

CTyankee

(66,041 posts)
72. I'm not so sure I could remember all the moves, depressing the pedal, all synchronized.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:34 PM
Mar 8

It was kind of a "dance" sitting down, depressing the pedal and adjusting the gear (up and to the side, then down), a kind of zoom, zoom, then you go (that felt good!). I remember my son was a teen then and I impressed his friends with my acquired "skill."

multigraincracker

(35,493 posts)
102. I have a 25 year old van with 200k on it.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 07:08 PM
Mar 8

Bought it used with 33K on it 15 years ago easy on the gas and brake pedals.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
103. Awesome!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 07:12 PM
Mar 8

We (gs & I) have a 1990 Acura Legend - close to 500k, a '96 civic with nearly 400k, an '04 Civic with close to 300k, & my "baby," my '05 Civic, purchased at 1 yr old with 18k miles on it. Now has somewhere around 300k. Great car. Regularly get 47 mog avg/tank. (Gs is a hypermiler. Lol)

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
43. Me too, 1st car I drove was a '69 Camero SS
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:15 PM
Mar 8

Both my daughters & gs took to manuals like ducks out of water. Lol

Xavier Breath

(5,541 posts)
70. I took Driver's Ed in HS back in '82, and my uncle was upset when I told him we were learning on an automatic.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:29 PM
Mar 8

"You need to learn how to drive a manual. You'll have to drive one someday."

In 42 years, I never did, nor will I ever. If people like them, fine, but I will never understand the attraction.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
138. The attraction is longevity, esp in extreme heat
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 03:13 AM
Mar 9

At least for me. They are simple inside, basically just gears with no little tiny spaghetti-like passages to get clogged up & strand you.

I prefer to drive an auto, but getting stranded in the region I live in is very dangerous. Like a 3rd world countty.

To each their own.

Xavier Breath

(5,541 posts)
145. Then I guess I'm willing to chance the "spaghetti"-related issues I've (luckily) not experienced for the convenience.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:12 AM
Mar 9

And, with the inevitable switch to EVs, even the diehards will have to relent someday, unless they're older, I guess. But, as you said, to each their own.

I am curious, though, in what region do you live that resembles a 3rd world country? We have our share of Trumpers and bad neighborhoods, but I'm not yet ready to make that comparison here.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
147. Sadly, the Memphis region
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 10:32 AM
Mar 9

The only US city to make the "top 10 most dangerous cities."

While I live in a suburb it's not far enough away...

Xavier Breath

(5,541 posts)
148. Sorry to hear.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 11:10 AM
Mar 9

I guess I didn't know that the situation there was like that. When I hear about Memphis it's usually positive and in reference to the food or the music.

Xavier Breath

(5,541 posts)
152. Yeah, I was thinking of the BBQ.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 11:34 AM
Mar 9

I'm not a fan of BBQ but it seems like it's practically a religion for those who do.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,097 posts)
78. Me, too!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 8

My dad drove me out to the country, parked the VW up a steep hill, and made me swap seats with him. From there, it was up to me.

(Same guy who taught me to swim by dropping me in the deep end of the pool, oddly enough… )

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,097 posts)
157. It did!
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 02:12 PM
Mar 9

Took me three or four tries before I started going uphill but I felt like a respectable driver after that. Still drive a stick to this day!

The swimming was always a mystery, though. He’d been a freakin’ lifeguard through HS so I guess he figured if he had to save me, he was the guy to do it. Never forced me off the high board, though, which I’m sure would have traumatized me completely.

CrispyQ

(39,529 posts)
31. Small appliance repair, too!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:56 PM
Mar 8

There was this old German guy who had his shop out in his garage. Wow. I hadn't thought of him in years. He fixed an old juicer, a radio, re-wired some lamps & put new switches on others. He even fixed our water distiller when we couldn't find a new one we liked. Now we just throw everything out & buy new stuff.

Years ago I read a sci fi story by David Brin where a character's family owned a dump & they made their living salvaging everything we're throwing away today.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,784 posts)
53. I'm 76 and I drive a 2017 Honda Fit
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:33 PM
Mar 8

with manual transmission. I will not own an automatic, and I truly despise that I can't rent a manual car the exceedingly rare times I need to rent a car.

I taught both of my sons to drive a stick, and that's what they both drive.

Manual transmissions are still around, fortunately.

dhol82

(9,536 posts)
77. I can do that!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 8

Actually prefer a stick. Had them most of my life.
I had a Subaru WRX 5 speed (their rally car) for fifteen years. Loved that sucker!
I’m 79 and if I get another car it will def be a souped up stick shift something!

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
16. Agree ... repairing ANY electronics is a lost art for sure!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:34 PM
Mar 8

I am old enough I remember the TV repairman came to your house.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,784 posts)
56. Keep in mind those old TVs had things like
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:37 PM
Mar 8

vacuum tubes, which broke practically every time you changed the channel.

hunter

(39,464 posts)
159. When I was a kid our family would go months without a television...
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:16 PM
Mar 9

... until my parents had enough money to pay the repairman.

This started when my dad bought an expensive color television at Sears, on credit, to replace our broken black and white television. My mom was furious with him because he didn't consult her first.

My parents eventually grew weary of paying to have the color television repaired and bought the least expensive television sold at K-Mart, a 13" black and white set. That television was reliable. They gave it to me my last half-year of college, when they bought themselves a new 19" color set.

I left the old black and white television with my housemates when I got a new job and moved to another city a few months after I graduated.

My adult children, sad to say, almost treat televisions like fashion accessories. If one stops working it goes into the e-waste bins. If they grow bored with one it goes to the Goodwill shop.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
160. Thank you for the memories, hunter!
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:38 PM
Mar 9

I agree about TVs nowadays. Although we have had our Samsung for about 12 years.

Color TV was a bfd back then! We were probably the last ones on our block to get a color TV. I remember our neighbors across the street, an elderly couple,would let me and my sister come over on Sunday nights a few times to watch Walt Disney on their color set.

My mom gave me our old 12” b&w portable TV with a cracked screen to take to college and that’s what I watched for four years. We wrapped the antenna with tin foil and hung it out the window.

CTyankee

(66,041 posts)
12. Years ago, we had a "4 on the floor" drive car (I think it was British). I loved the thrill of zooming around in it!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:29 PM
Mar 8

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
22. I had a high school friend who had an MG midget, I remember how much fun it was to zoom around in!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:37 PM
Mar 8

bamagal62

(3,878 posts)
66. Unfortunately, no.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:05 PM
Mar 8

Sold it when I moved overseas. (Plus, both of those cars I’m sure have contributed to numerous trips to my dermatologist!) Then, I had 2 kids and spent many years in one Honda Odyssey after another. I now drive an Audi.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
98. Well at least you were able to escape the United States of Extortion!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 06:45 PM
Mar 8

I know Miata owners tend to really love them & stick with them.

Long time Honda Civic owner here. Mine is a 2005, but we have several.

bamagal62

(3,878 posts)
104. I haven't escaped!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 07:39 PM
Mar 8

I’m back now. That was ages ago. I’m in New Jersey!
I get to suffer with the rest of us.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
106. I'm sorry to hear that
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 07:50 PM
Mar 8


She Hit Refresh is a website that helps women over 30 relocate to countries that are safe for women. I hope that helps.

I'm too old, will be 70 in a few mos. No hope to relocate.

Enjoy!

quaint

(3,824 posts)
51. I do, I do!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:32 PM
Mar 8

Before they all turned into stardust, a number of friends responded in kind. One sent beautiful calligraphy notes.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,784 posts)
57. My friend Don hand writes letters.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:39 PM
Mar 8

He also corresponds with dozens, maybe closer to hundreds of people.

underpants

(190,134 posts)
40. That was popular with hipsters about 10+ years ago
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:04 PM
Mar 8

We had an estate sale and two hipsters bought a piece of rail line we had. I asked what they’d use it for and was told that blacksmithing was a thing again.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
24. Sewing, yes!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:40 PM
Mar 8

As junior high school girls we were required to make aprons, skirts, saw a hem, and sew on a button.

My older sister was a wonderful seamstress who made her own camel hair coat with silk lining.

mwmisses4289

(947 posts)
33. I can do basic sewing,
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:57 PM
Mar 8

such as hemming, replacing buttons, and following a pattern. My mother, on the other hand, was an amazing seamstress. She made most of my clothes until I was I college, and after she retired, she would do alterations for people. I do miss her.

3catwoman3

(26,560 posts)
46. My maternal grandmother was a very accomplished seamstress - self-taught, IIRC.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:18 PM
Mar 8

She could make anything from doll clothes to coats with linings. My mother, who was born in 1922, was invited to a military ball in her late teens, and my grandmother made the ball gown my mother wore. She made a miniature of it in in a doll size, which I still have. I consider it a family treasure.

I can do simple mending, and can hem by hand, but that's about it. Can't do a blind hem by machine, and zippers completely flummoxed me. I lack the patience for ripping something out more than once if it doesn't come out right the first time.

electric_blue68

(21,072 posts)
162. I can do a hem. I darned a thick yarned sock slipper for my sis. Learned on line....My mom was...
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 12:20 AM
Mar 10

an expert sewer! Went to dress making school!

We had the most well made sewing machined clothes! Dresses, occasional tops, and skirts, a rare pants, even a shirt for my dad. Fuzzy Terry cloth colorful patterned hooded beach capes.
Oh, a lovely Spring coat for me. A fancy, high fashion JHS dance dress - a shiny magenta sheath w spaghetti straps, that had a big transparent over dress of electric blue, and semi abstract small green leaves, white, pink, orange flowers.
Happy Memories!

OldBaldy1701E

(7,717 posts)
28. The three 'C's.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:46 PM
Mar 8

Communication
Consideration
Compromise

These three things have all but disappeared from our society.

More's the pity.

FarPoint

(13,927 posts)
29. Effective communication....
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:48 PM
Mar 8

Texting has replaced 1:1 conversations per phone....Additionally.... the use of Acronyms have gone array....

Even journalistic writing has fallen short of good grammar....

LearnedHand

(4,618 posts)
50. A gentle reminder: Good grammer is not equal to good communication
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:31 PM
Mar 8

I have long-running hilarious text threads with super smart friends. Emoji and all. Never have one minute's difficulty experiencing it as a rich exchange.

What *is* ineffective communication is when people say a lot of words that fundamentally mean nothing because it's all abstraction. A good example: Whenever a corporation is caught misusing user data, the first thing they do is issue a statement reiterating how much they value user privacy.

Shermann

(8,914 posts)
52. Even re-slinging chairs appears to be an art.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:32 PM
Mar 8

I bought a set of 2-piece outdoor sling chairs over twenty years ago, and sadly the fabric started to tear within a few years. I found an old-timer in the neighborhood who re-slinged them for a reasonable price, and they've held up ever since!

samplegirl

(12,910 posts)
32. Very much so
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:56 PM
Mar 8

I get about 3 Christmas cards a year now.
I so love getting a real handwritten note.
I guess because I always loved cards and nice stationary.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
112. Christmas cards are really dwindling.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:42 PM
Mar 8

Most of the people who were in the generation that sent them have sadly passed on and younger people don’t bother with them.

Ocelot II

(124,370 posts)
34. Driving a stick shift, gapping points in a distributor, splicing recording tape,
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:01 PM
Mar 8

cursive writing, shorthand, programming in Basic, defrosting a refrigerator.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
113. I hear they don't even teach cursive writing in schools anymore
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:44 PM
Mar 8

And some younger adults can’t even read it. Isn’t that weird?

malthaussen

(18,080 posts)
37. I would say "writing," period.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:03 PM
Mar 8

A reasonably well-crafted essay with no grammatical errors and no cliches is a rare thing today. We seem to be satisfied with misspelled memes, ten-second sound bytes, and video talking heads who take ten minutes to say nothing. Obviously exceptions apply, but the trend seems to be in that direction.

-- Mal

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
114. Especially when you read posts and comments on some web sites
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:46 PM
Mar 8

You wonder if they even know English….

bucolic_frolic

(50,000 posts)
38. Everything is a lost art, our smart phone gizmos are sapping our time
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:03 PM
Mar 8

Therefore things are "streamlined". Time spent on study, practice, cooking, professions from blue to white collar, is less. It has an impact.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
115. Working on his car was a big part of my husband's younger days!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:47 PM
Mar 8

Guys in the neighborhood hung out, worked on their cars. That was a lifetime ago.

SheltieLover

(66,960 posts)
47. Tv repair
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:19 PM
Mar 8

Repairs of anything, really. Everything avail now is built like a walhell toaster, use & throw away. 😏

Rizen

(861 posts)
61. Intellectualism itself is a lost art.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:52 PM
Mar 8

We're a country of willful ignorance, prejudice and science denial full of appallingly stupid people. It's gotten to the point where people will believe anything they hear if its repeated enough. Facts and critical thinking have taken a back seat to conservative dogma. To quote Isaac Asimov, "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
116. It never used to be that way.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:50 PM
Mar 8

Used to be that parents who barely graduated high school really pushed their kids to go to college. Education, knowledge, research, was so much more highly valued than it is today. Now people brag about how ignorant they are!

bamagal62

(3,878 posts)
64. Knife sharpening
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:00 PM
Mar 8

I used to have a guy that would drive around in a van, pick up your knives, and then return them
All sharpened. That was 2007. I wouldn’t know where to go get one sharpened now. I think
There used to be mom
And pop kitchen shops that did it. But, most of those are gone now.

Maninacan

(121 posts)
71. Sharpening
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:29 PM
Mar 8

I just took a sewing class and the Quilt shop had a scissor sharpening service that would pick up and return them. After 50yrs i had the muscle memory reaching for the foot lever in the back, The shop machine had it under the arm.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
118. That's true, bamagal62. I don't know any place that sharpens knives.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:54 PM
Mar 8

Lots more door-to-door services back in the day. Milk delivery, bread …. The family doctor even made house calls! I even remember a farmer that peddled fresh eggs door-to-door. And we lived in suburbia.

jmowreader

(52,168 posts)
140. Call your hairstylist
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 08:00 AM
Mar 9

Hairstylists use REALLY expensive scissors and have them sharpened on a regular basis. Anyone who can sharpen those can also sharpen a knife.

Xavier Breath

(5,541 posts)
73. Having patience with others.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:35 PM
Mar 8

So many want everything to happen NOW, and may the gods help you if they perceive you as the reason it isn't.

KitFox

(294 posts)
74. Shoe Repair Shops
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:38 PM
Mar 8

I remember getting our saddle shoes and then taking them to the shoe repair shop to get taps put on. Geez, I’m old!!!! 😁

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
120. Oh I loved the shoe repair guy! He could fix anything!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:57 PM
Mar 8

Sadly, he passed away and no one ever replaced him. I guess you throw away old shoes now.

Aviation Pro

(14,230 posts)
79. Land navigation without the use of GPS
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 8

A lot of basic outdoorsmanship and skill craft has been lost in the third decade of the 21st century.

JoseBalow

(7,279 posts)
80. Trolling
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:55 PM
Mar 8

Trolls are so lazy and ham-fisted these days. It's not about making people angry, the art is in applying nuanced irritation for the lulz. Nobody appreciates suttlety anymore.

Niagara

(10,528 posts)
83. Writing a check from the checkbook and navigating by road atlas or paper maps
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 05:10 PM
Mar 8

Disclaimer: Each individuals mileage will be different. Some people still write a check for bills or whatever, but many of us don't get to use the checkbook on a regular basis anymore.



The last time I wrote an actual check to pay for something was back in May of 2024 because the car dealer wouldn't accept a large amount of payment with a debit card, they would only accept 2 or 3 thousand from a debit card. The last time before that, I wrote a check from my checkbook in May of 2022 and that was to send my mom money so that she could buy herself something for Mother's Day.


I'm too dependent on Google Maps. Before that I was too dependent on both of my Garmin GPS systems.

During my paper road atlas adventure days, I made mistakes by not turning here on this or that road and found some spectacular lookout points that had magnificent views. I still managed to get to my destinations even though I didn't have Miss Cool, Calm and Collect reminding me to turn east here or west there.

SWBTATTReg

(25,198 posts)
84. Making fishing flies by hand.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 05:10 PM
Mar 8

I fish a lot (or did), for trout in Missouri's trout streams, and often would encounter a fly (a bug on the water) that the fish were going after. I would pull over to the edge of the water, and using my homemade little kit, make an identical copy of the bug/fly that the fish were hitting top-water.

A lot of these are coming in from overseas (fishing lures/dry flies). The art is still out there, but I think it's disappearing. Sad.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
123. You are right, SWBTATTReg
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:02 PM
Mar 8

Fly tying is an art unto itself! Some hand tied ones are really beautiful.

SWBTATTReg

(25,198 posts)
136. Yes, and thank you. I loved it man...nothing like going out on the water, and just fly fish. I grew up that way.
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 01:45 AM
Mar 9

And then of course, man...you would an insect/fly/? on the water that the fish were crazy for! Then of course w/ your limited equp., try to make a copy of that insect? It was neat....

SWBTATTReg

(25,198 posts)
137. I'm sorry, my 'you would an insect/fly/?' remark was screwed up, I meant of course that if you see an insect or fly
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 01:52 AM
Mar 9

on the water, you could tie a copy of it, via the limited fly tying material that I carried w/ me (I was a kid, and would it all w/ me).

MIButterfly

(310 posts)
100. Ironing.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 06:51 PM
Mar 8

My mother could iron like a professional, with sharp creases and not a wrinkle to be found. I, on the other hand, can go over the same area 10 times and it still looks shabby. That's why I don't do it anymore.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
125. Did your mom have a water bottle that she shook over the item to be ironed? It sprinkled water
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:07 PM
Mar 8

Made the item very smooth. I can still remember the smell of the iron going over the damp material.

MIButterfly

(310 posts)
134. Yes, she had a spray bottle of water that she used!
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 11:36 PM
Mar 8

I tried the spray bottle, but it never worked for me. I just couldn't get the garments as perfectly ironed as she did no matter how hard I tried.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
124. I worked in a commercial print shop but never was called upon for typesetting
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:04 PM
Mar 8

Everything I did there is probably obsolete, now.

Aristus

(69,759 posts)
129. Dressing for the occasion.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:20 PM
Mar 8

I’m a child of the 80’s, so the days of all guys dressing like “Mad Men” were already long gone when I was coming up. But my parents always made sure us kids were well-dressed (and they got an ego boost from people who stopped in passing to remark on how well-dressed we were).

So I developed a taste for tailored clothing as an adult. I’ve got a closet bulging with fine tailored suits and sports coats, and respectable-looking casual wear.

But I really hate the way all-casual, all the time has pervaded American society. I go to a high-end restaurant for a nice evening out, and see guys wearing sweats, flip-flops, and backwards baseball caps. And not young guys, either. (I’m not some huffy ‘kids these days’ old man. I really like and respect the young generation coming up) I’m talking guys in their forties who should at least know how to wear a suit and tie a necktie. I don’t want to see some dude-bro’s hairy ugly talons when I’m trying to enjoy dinner. Put some real shoes on, dude.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
141. I agree with you Aristus
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:53 AM
Mar 9

Way too many Americans are very sloppily dressed. And I am far from a “fancy dresser” myself, but geez can’t people look decent in restaurants? You should see what some people wear to church now (I haven’t gone in years but when I did attend semi regularly I noticed a big trend towards shorts, flip flops, young girls in short shorts, wrinkly T shirts like you just rolled out of bed). I remember thinking, my mother wouldn’t let me out of the HOUSE like that, let alone show up at church). I recently read an article where it was stated, how can you tell an American when on a trip to another country? They wear shorts.

OTOH I see old films where women wore heels and suits to go shopping downtown in a big city. I say a big NO to that! It may look nice but those heels are a killer on the feet.

yellow dahlia

(2,288 posts)
131. I agree w/ the basic civility answer.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:56 PM
Mar 8

I will add genuine apologies and "thank you"s.

Is deference an art?

Is listening an art?

Texasgal

(17,211 posts)
132. Cobbling.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 10:56 PM
Mar 8

My grandfather had feet that were two sizes, he had to get all of his shoes made. We used to have a several cobbler shops here in my city. They all made boots and shoes by hand.

My father just recently died, and we found his handmade little cowboy boots that he had when he was 4 years old in a box of things. They were still in pristine condition!

CountAllVotes

(21,718 posts)
135. Being a printer
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 01:37 AM
Mar 9

My father was a printer, the foreman of the shop at U.C. Berkeley on Oxford street in his prime.

He was a fine craftsman and a skilled artist.

And, he knew all there was to know about printing from the linotype to proof reader.

God I miss that fine man.

I sure wish he was here now!

He's been gone for close to 30 years now.

Lord knows how much I miss and love my late Dad.

Diamond_Dog

(36,728 posts)
144. Your Dad sounds like a true treasure, Thank you for your post CountAllVotes..
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 09:57 AM
Mar 9

I miss my time at the print shop. I worked with some very talented people.

CountAllVotes

(21,718 posts)
156. I truly loved my father
Sun Mar 9, 2025, 01:35 PM
Mar 9

Both he and his younger brother were printers, union printers, the East Bay Typographical I believe it was and the San Francisco Typographical Union as well.

My father was a Sargent in the Marine Corps. during WWII and was in Guadalcanal. He had malaria, Dengue Fever and Beri Beri from being in the tropics during that time. He lived to be 75 years old.

When he died, I sure took it hard, I remember that much!

Here's to you Dad



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