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(52,097 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 04:24 PM 11 hrs ago

Don't blame Trump's stupid war on Israel - Max Boot, WaPo

When a nation starts a war for dubious reasons and then suffers the consequences, there is inevitably a search for scapegoats. Conspiracy theories abound. It happened after World War I, when the favorite villains were “merchants of death” and international bankers. It happened again after the Iraq War, which some blamed on “neoconservatives” and Halliburton, the oil-services giant led by Dick Cheney before he became vice president.

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Recall that Kent is the same guy who claimed that the FBI could have been responsible for orchestrating the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol. He traffics in conspiracies. In his resignation letter, he kept them coming by blaming Israel for the Iran and Iraq wars. He added that the fight against the Islamic State, in which his wife was killed while serving in Syria in 2019, was also “manufactured by Israel.” In reality, Israeli officials warned the Bush administration against invading Iraq. And, needless to say, they didn’t concoct the Islamic State threat — which, unlike the current war, led to the mobilization of a massive international coalition.

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It’s true the U.S. and Israel are both waging war against Tehran, a campaign that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has long agitated for. But it wasn’t until Trump came to power that the U.S. finally agreed to attack Iran — first last June and then again on Feb. 28. That’s Trump’s responsibility. He could have said no.

While the president is surrounded by pro-Israel voices and supported by pro-Israel donors, he is also close to Gulf states that generally opposed the attack. Caught in the crossfire, many Gulf Arabs now feel that their investment in Trump — Qatar gave him a $400 million airplane, and Emirati investors sank $500 million into his cryptocurrency company — isn’t paying off. Why did Trump listen to allies in Israel, not in the Gulf? Why does he do anything? It’s always a bit of a mystery.

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But in trying to manufacture a casus belli with Iran, Trump and his aides inadvertently helped foster conspiracy theories about Israel. Secretary of State Marco Rubio claimed on March 2 that the U.S. had to attack Iran because Israel was going to strike anyway, and, when it did so, Iran would hit U.S. forces. The administration then tried to walk this back — and rightly so. It’s absurd to imagine that Netanyahu would have bombed Iran if Trump had told him not to and threatened to withhold military aid if he did.


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Don't blame Trump's stupid war on Israel - Max Boot, WaPo (Original Post) question everything 11 hrs ago OP
Hegseth is next in line to go under the bus; take a number. Permanut 11 hrs ago #1
Left and right are delighted to blame Israel DavidDvorkin 10 hrs ago #2
No. It is because both Trump's and Netanyahu's objectives align--on multiple "fronts." hlthe2b 10 hrs ago #5
Yes and I would add bone saw prince to the mix Lifeafter70 10 hrs ago #6
In this case it's deserved because it's true Wiz Imp 5 hrs ago #8
This read as satire. Klarkashton 10 hrs ago #3
It's not a fucking mystery Aviation Pro 10 hrs ago #4
Israel and Netanyahu are clearly PART of the problem. But not the main problem. LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #7

hlthe2b

(113,824 posts)
5. No. It is because both Trump's and Netanyahu's objectives align--on multiple "fronts."
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 04:37 PM
10 hrs ago

That you cannot stop conflating disdain for Netanyahu and his policies from hatred of Jews is beyond me to EVER understand. It is simply NOT true for nearly any American that is even minimally aware of global events. Is there antisemitism in this country. Absolutely. Racism, anti-Latino hatred, MISOGYNY to the extent of promoting INCEL ideology? You are damned right. But the broad brush conflation for EVERYTHING is neither true nor helpful to the change I think you seek in this world. I know I do.

Trump and Netanyahu are two peas in a pod. Transactional to get what THEY want. Just as Putin, Orban, and Xi are as well. None of these five have the best interest of THEIR PEOPLE as their priority. Not at all, except where serendipitous to their own aims.

And to suggest Trump--the most easily manipulated Head of State the world has nearly ever seen--is not influenced by Netanyahu, just as he is Putin goes totally against the evidence. That doesn't mean Trump was not willingly manipulated without his own aligning agenda, but Netanyahu has been reported (with validity) to have gotten Trump's approval to take out Khamenei--which started this whole debacle. Two peas in a corrupt-as-hell pod--both seeking to escape their many horrific misdeeds and criminal offenses any way possible while pursuing the ultimate aphrodisiac--POWER.

Wiz Imp

(9,937 posts)
8. In this case it's deserved because it's true
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 10:14 PM
5 hrs ago

and it has nothing to do with htred for the jews. It has nothing to do with the Jewish people it all. It is the Israeli Government and Netanyahu who deserve every criticism they get.

Aviation Pro

(15,550 posts)
4. It's not a fucking mystery
Tue Mar 24, 2026, 04:34 PM
10 hrs ago

The child fucking bag of fuck is the dumbest, most puerile waste of a zygote in modern history.

The overflowing bag of fecal matter will be ranked with Hitler, Stalin and Mao as the worst person humanity has ever shit out of its dank and rancid sphincter.

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