Senate Dems tease hardball defense spending strategy

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: msn/Axios

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Senate Democrats privately debated on Wednesday how to respond to Senate Majority Leader John Thune's plan to jam them on a vote over funding the Defense Department.

Why it matters: Key Democrats signaled to Axios they were prepared to block a procedural motion to advance the defense funding bill on Thursday.

Still, confusion reigned inside the Democratic caucus on what kind of package Thune (R-S.D.) would ultimately bring to the floor, making it difficult for Democrats to settle on a final strategy.

They insisted they need to know whether Thune will bring a standalone defense bill to the floor — or if he'll pair it with other appropriations packages.

"If we have to vote with no clarity about that, I would vote against proceeding to the House defense approps bill," Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), an appropriator, told Axios on Wednesday.

Between the lines: Thune has yet to publicly indicate whether he plans to package the bills together, although he has said he is open to the idea.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-dems-tease-hardball-defense-spending-strategy/ar-AA1OyptP

[JBTaurus83]

1. Good!

Did they finally wake up? I say shut it all down. Let them own the whole mess and fix it themselves.

[gab13by13]

3. Saying shut it all down is a right wing talking point.

The Democratic talking point is that the party can't vote for a funding bill that guts healthcare.

Magats have adapted to try to throw the shutdown blame to Democrats. They want to fund the troops using money not appropriated to fund the troops, what a devious idea. Thune will also add funding to this bill for other items, such as child care to make it hard for Senate Democrats to remain united.

[yankee87]

6. Zero help

We’re screwed anyway, shut it down till next November.

[gab13by13]

2. "confusion reigned inside the Democratic caucus"

My posts get criticized for pointing out that the new Republican party is using new tactics and the Democratic party needs to adapt.

Here is a prime example of what I was criticized for bringing up.

Senate Magats are going to bring up a Pentagon spending bill that would fund the troops for one year using money from the Pentagon that was approved by Congress that was to be used for research and development, 8 billion dollars. This transfer of funds is illegal. Krasnov also wants to take tariff money to pay the troops when the Supreme Court hasn't ruled yet whether his tariffs are legal.

Senate Magats will probably also attach other areas of spending besides paying the military such as child care that will make it hard for Senate Democrats to stay united.

Keep calling me anti-Democratic when I report what is happening, I can take it.

Bernie Sanders agrees with me, he and AOC have been the 2 prominent people who have been taking the fight directly to the people.

Republicans are willing to talk about extending the Obamacare subsidies but won’t do so until Democrats back down and vote to reopen the government on their terms. “Anyone that thinks that tomorrow they’ll suddenly start negotiating, I think is smoking something that is illegal in many states,” Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent who votes with Democrats, said at a CNN town hall on Wednesday night.

BumRushDaShow you posted the article, what is your opinion? Should Democrats stay united and vote no to the Thune Bill?

It's easy for people to criticize my posts without offering an alternative solution. The Magat party is not the old Republican Party, it is not following rules, norms, the law, the Constitution, and the Democratic party needs to adapt.

I believe that Democrats need to stand tall and stay united whatever they decide to do about the Thune Bill. The money to fund the military in Thune's Bill is illegal to do. It is illegal to take 8 billion dollars from Research and Development and transfer it to pay the troops.

The new Magat party isn't following the rules, imagine that, attack me all you want but people who say everything will be all right are the problem. Should not have voted for the CR back in March, before the Big Ugly Death Bill became law, that's my opinion.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. "BumRushDaShow you posted the article what is your opinion? Should Democrats stay united and vote no to the Thune Bill?"

We don't even know what the "Thune bill" will be.

The "regular process" that the GOP has neglected to do in the past dozen or so years when they had control of either Congress and/or the White House, is to submit the individual (or if anything, "Minibus" and/or "Omnibus" appropriations bills, to cover the ENTIRE government).

Passing individual "standalone appropriations bills", without completing all the others (either standalone or as a combo), will NOT reopen the government.

I know. My agency was one of the rare ones funded back during the Gingrich shutdown of late 1995 - early 1996, where most of the rest of the Departments/Agencies were furloughed. So we came into work every day and in my case, I was greeted to a nearly empty multi-agency building (just a few other agencies were funded like Treasury and Agriculture who worked in our building).

So Democrats need to hold fast if there is an attempt to do something other than a standalone in this specific case. No Minibus or Omnibus packages without the corresponding demands.

The other thing that needs to be reiterated was that one of the first bills passed under Biden in 2021 was what became a law to provide BACK PAY after a lapse. This bullshit from 45 about putting caveats on that needs to be loudly torpedoed and more notably emphasized to the idiotic media that there IS a law, and stop accepting the crap from 45 as true.

[gab13by13]

4. It looks like Magats have already illegally transferred the money

per Yahoo finance:

On another front, Trump's administration has reallocated funds to pay active-duty soldiers this week and has also overseen a $300 million infusion into a food aid program for low-income mothers.

[Crowman2009]

7. When the Dems regain power and get rid of that god damn filibuster, they need to do some defense spending cuts ASAP.

[Quanto Magnus]

8. Trump can just move funds from ICE

to cover DOD spending.... He seems to be going willy-nilly on everything else....