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hay rick

(8,921 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 10:01 AM Yesterday

Florida releases heavily blacked-out Alligator Alcatraz hurricane plan.

Source: South Florida Sun Sentinel

Florida emergency management officials released a heavily blacked-out disaster plan for the Alligator Alcatraz immigration detention center on Wednesday, just two days after saying they had no document detailing what the camp would do if threatened by a hurricane.

The 33-page draft plan appears to detail alternate facilities that could be used in an evacuation, procedures for detainee transportation and other measures that would be enacted in the event of a powerful storm or other emergency.

But specific details are a secret. Officials blacked out almost all of the pages, citing exemptions in the state’s public records law that allow information about “tactical operations” during emergencies to be shielded from disclosure.
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“I promise you that the hurricane guys have got the hurricane stuff covered,” said Kevin Guthrie, the state’s emergency management director, last week.

The document, titled the South Florida Detention Center Continuity of Operations Plan, aims to maintain custody of detainees during an evacuation, ensure the continuation of medical care and other vital services, keep communications operational and protect detainee legal records and documentations. The plan also notes vendors have developed their own procedures for an emergency.

Read more: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/07/30/florida-releases-heavily-blacked-out-alligator-alcatraz-hurricane-plan/



DeSantis demonstrating that he is prepared to ignore and suppress public accountability...because it looks and feels STRONG. Hand-picked, unidentified vendors have their own emergency plans. My guess is those plans involve getting large checks from the state and kicking back a small percentage to certain political committees.
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Florida releases heavily blacked-out Alligator Alcatraz hurricane plan. (Original Post) hay rick Yesterday OP
Orleans Parish Prison redux JustAnotherGen Yesterday #1
I wish people would stop using Trump's name for his concentration camp in Florida. It should be called "Trump's Florida Martin68 Yesterday #2
Names are frames. hay rick Yesterday #4
Ronnie D and ICE are planning mass death? ProudMNDemocrat Yesterday #3
"We can just black out a bunch of blank pages and release that!" struggle4progress 22 hrs ago #5
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress 22 hrs ago #6
I think I understand the hurricane plan: JustABozoOnThisBus 22 hrs ago #7
Sunshine State laws not covering AA, I guess???? obamanut2012 21 hrs ago #8
"I promise you that the hurricane guys have got the hurricane stuff covered," Miguelito Loveless 21 hrs ago #9
.Floridians accept pinky promises. It's better than what we usually get. hay rick 18 hrs ago #10

JustAnotherGen

(36,012 posts)
1. Orleans Parish Prison redux
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 10:11 AM
Yesterday
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-report-details-horrors-suffered-orleans-parish-prisoners-wake-hurricane-katrina

The ACLU report describes a history of neglect at Orleans Parish Prison, one of the most dangerous and mismanaged jails in the country. This culture of neglect was evident in the days before Katrina, when the sheriff declared that the prisoners would remain "where they belong," despite the mayor's decision to declare the city's first-ever mandatory evacuation. OPP even accepted prisoners, including juveniles as young as 10, from other facilities to ride out the storm.

As floodwaters rose in the OPP buildings, power was lost, and entire buildings were plunged into darkness. Deputies left their posts wholesale, leaving behind prisoners in locked cells, some standing in sewage-tainted water up to their chests.

"The sheriff's office was completely unprepared for the storm," said Tom Jawetz, Litigation Fellow for the National Prison Project. "The Louisiana Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals did more for its 263 stray pets than the sheriff did for the more than 6,500 men, women and children left in his care."

Prisoners went days without food, water and ventilation, and deputies admit that they received no emergency training and were entirely unaware of any evacuation plan. Even some prison guards were left locked in at their posts to fend for themselves, unable to provide assistance to prisoners in need.

Martin68

(26,241 posts)
2. I wish people would stop using Trump's name for his concentration camp in Florida. It should be called "Trump's Florida
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 11:47 AM
Yesterday

Concentration Camp." Don't play their silly games. It distracts from what is really going on.

hay rick

(8,921 posts)
4. Names are frames.
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 12:11 PM
Yesterday

Proper names like Alligator Alcatraz and Gulf of America are intentionally provocative and end up as a starting point for discussions which may or may not lead down a hoped-for path. In the case of Gulf of America, the prevalent result was ridicule- although I did see a Gulf of America t-shirt the other day.

Alligator Alcatraz is more problematic in that it is the official name of the facility. The intent of the name was to signal some kind of vindictive version of strength, determination, and non-wokeness in response to officially-sanctioned immigration paranoia. It is an icon that invites Americans to discard their humanity and their own constitutional rights.

Here's an alternate name:

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,980 posts)
3. Ronnie D and ICE are planning mass death?
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

In lieu of any hurricanes and storms coming through the area?

The CRUELTY of it according to their frame of mind..."Who gives a fuck about a bunch of undocumented criminals anyway? They don't mean nothing."

History will not be kind to Ronnie D, ICE, DHS, or TACO Don.

Response to hay rick (Original post)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,247 posts)
7. I think I understand the hurricane plan:
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 03:20 PM
22 hrs ago

In case of hurricane damage to Mar-a-Lago or any Trump properties, surviving inmates will be bussed to the site to repair damage to the grounds.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,110 posts)
9. "I promise you that the hurricane guys have got the hurricane stuff covered,"
Thu Jul 31, 2025, 03:48 PM
21 hrs ago

That statement fills me with confidence about his expertise.

I am sure he will have medical guys, and fire guys, and food guys all lined up too.

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