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BumRushDaShow

(156,918 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:30 AM Jul 2

Johnson faces new GOP revolt on Trump's "big, beautiful bill"

Source: Axios

12 hours ago


House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is facing an explosion of internal anger among his members over the Senate's changes to President Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

Why it matters: The speaker has just days to pass the bill before Republicans' self-imposed July 4 deadline — which will require flipping dozens of "no" votes and overcoming numerous procedural hurdles.

  • "We knew the Senate would amend the House product. I encouraged them to amend it as lightly as possible. They went a little further than many of us would have preferred," Johnson told reporters on Tuesday.


  • What they're saying: "Our bill has been completely changed. ... It's a non-starter," Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) bemoaned to reporters on Tuesday.

  • Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) said in a post on social media that he will introduce an amendment to the Senate bill that would delete all its text and replace it with the version passed by the House in May.
  • One House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Axios there are "well over 20" GOP lawmakers threatening to vote against the bill.


  • State of play: The Senate voted 51-50 to pass their version of the bill on Tuesday, with Vice President Vance serving as the tiebreaker.

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    BumRushDaShow

    (156,918 posts)
    3. At one point, at least briefly
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:05 AM
    Jul 2

    45 hinted at willingness to let the July 4 date "slip" but then started doubling down again.

    Huge bills like this normally take almost a year to craft and because of this back and forth between chambers, usually end up with a "Joint Conference Committee" with members from both chambers, who are tasked to work on a SINGLE bill that both House and Senate would eventually vote on.

    This trying to do it in 4 - 5 months was idiotic (for them), was mandated by someone who before 2017, had zero experience in any elected office nor knowledge of how government operates, and done with the intent to have a symbolic "show" to correspond with a holiday.

    mahina

    (19,922 posts)
    5. Or slam it through with intimidation and tiny carrots fast enough that none of his supporters figure out what they are
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:57 AM
    Jul 2

    passing before it's too late.

    Scanning ground news, the republican media are basically not reporting the cuts to medicaid. Nor the 3-5 trillion dollar debt hike.

    Cretins.

    BumRushDaShow

    (156,918 posts)
    7. Some of the GOPers
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 05:08 AM
    Jul 2

    like Tillis (mentioning the Medicaid cuts) and the fiscal conservatives (former teabaggers, who are complaining about "the cost" ) are getting that info out there though, in the latter case, in dramatic fashion as they want almost all of what they mischaracterize as "entitlement programs", to be ditched.

    tanyev

    (47,175 posts)
    9. Government operates by One man Posting stuff on a social Media platform in CAPITAL LETTERS, right?
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 07:56 AM
    Jul 2

    BumRushDaShow

    (156,918 posts)
    10. It's pretty amazing
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:04 AM
    Jul 2

    how something that is most likely NOT authorized as an "official" government form of communications media, is used anyway.

    Captain Zero

    (8,159 posts)
    4. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:12 AM
    Jul 2

    Just enough will line up to kiss the ring, or his ass, as required. Trump's, not Johnson's.

    LudwigPastorius

    (12,973 posts)
    15. 3*
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:11 PM
    Jul 2

    There are currently 4 holdouts, Fitzpatrick (PA), Self (TX), Spartz (IN), & Clyde (GA).

    *This is on the procedural "rule" vote that must be passed before actual voting on the bill occurs.

    ancianita

    (41,097 posts)
    12. So the anonymous House Republicans SAY... don't believe the hype.
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:17 AM
    Jul 2
    One House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Axios there are "well over 20" GOP lawmakers threatening to vote against the bill
    .

    They love their owners and jobs more than the facts and truth. Don't believe the hype. It's meant to make the Democratic caucus and public complacent. As Lawrence said, even now as people feel the pain, everything will 'look' the same.

    KY_EnviroGuy

    (14,720 posts)
    14. Call it what it is - The Big Billionaire Bailout Bill.
    Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:12 PM
    Jul 2

    The core of it is simply trickle-up economics on steroids...... ......and we all know GOP House lackeys will cave like lemmings in the end.

    One potential saving grace for this legislation is that there's a remote chance it might put a fatal stake in the GOP's black heart.

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