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Jose Garcia

(3,215 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:03 PM Wednesday

David Hogg will not run for DNC post again after party orders redo of vice chair elections

Source: NBC News

Progressive activist David Hogg said he won’t seek to continue his role as vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, after the DNC called for a redo of the February election that elevated him to the post.

Shortly after the DNC announced it would hold hold new elections Thursday for two vice chair positions currently held by Hogg and Pennsylvania state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta as a result of a procedural challenge, Hogg announced he would not be a candidate.

The decision comes amid a public spat with the DNC and its chairman, Ken Martin, over Hogg’s decision to support primary challenges to Democratic incumbents, a spat that loomed over the vote even though it was not directly related to the challenge that ultimately led to the party to call for a new election.

Hogg made the announcement in a lengthy statement that criticized the Democratic Party for a lack of vision and a refusal to pass the torch to the next generation. But his discussion the DNC and the vice-chair specifically was more muted.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/david-hogg-dnc-vice-chair-vote-malcolm-kenyatta-rcna212023

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David Hogg will not run for DNC post again after party orders redo of vice chair elections (Original Post) Jose Garcia Wednesday OP
This is a sad day for the Democratic Party. Jacson6 Wednesday #1
They... Just... Don't... Get... It... Chasstev365 Wednesday #2
Boot the only people bringing in fresh ideas Prairie Gates Wednesday #3
I am worried about this, too, but we should follow the rules! LauraInLA Wednesday #4
Well, that's it for me. The DNC gets no more contributions from me. lees1975 Wednesday #5
Ditto. I've been giving monthly to Leaders We Deserve for over a year now. He's put young Dems in statehouses. ancianita Wednesday #11
I have hopes that Trump's approval ratings, and the usual pushback against the presidential incumbent's party Jack Valentino Wednesday #15
It was an opportunity to explain himself and his ideas bucolic_frolic Wednesday #6
It was a dead end. lees1975 Wednesday #7
I'm thinking that instead of spending his time hitting his head against a brick wall..he can do much better Deuxcents Wednesday #9
he's got some ego going on there stillcool Wednesday #8
He should go out and get a job for a few years. LuvLoogie Wednesday #10
I agree with you. hamsterjill Wednesday #20
Activists are often opportunists that use politicians. LuvLoogie Wednesday #21
This makes me sad and mad that we still seem MuseRider Wednesday #12
Dems will never get control, we deserve better Puppyjive Wednesday #13
David.......Just run for U.S Representative.. NowsTheTime Wednesday #14
AMEN to THAT!!!!!!! Jack Valentino Wednesday #16
What is so wrong with the DNC.... reACTIONary Wednesday #17
You mean the Democrats in safe seats, sitting on their hands, doing nothing except protecting their turf and raising lees1975 Wednesday #19
are there names for those dead weight stillcool Yesterday #22
Caricatured old Democratic corruption monster enemies purged, purify the party in glorious transformation revolution. betsuni Yesterday #23
Oh, come on now... reACTIONary 18 hrs ago #27
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. mackdaddy Wednesday #18
Corporate Dems For Ever! Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #24
Good. mcar 20 hrs ago #25
Hmmm Abstractartist 19 hrs ago #26
Hooray! The septuagenarians are safe again! Rob H. 13 hrs ago #28

Prairie Gates

(5,228 posts)
3. Boot the only people bringing in fresh ideas
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:12 PM
Wednesday

Great fucking job, guys. Way to pinpoint the fucking enemy.

lees1975

(6,600 posts)
5. Well, that's it for me. The DNC gets no more contributions from me.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:15 PM
Wednesday

I prefer to give to candidates anyway. But anything I'd have given to the DNC I will now give to Hogg's "Leaders We Deserve" organization.

We were promised a "War Room," but I haven't seen anything about it since the promises and appeals for money. Can't say Martin is a disappointment, since the bar was already pretty low. There's talk about winning the mid-terms, but no evidence that's going to happen with a 26% approval rating. Martin has the job, can wear the suits and flit around on planes here and there, but he has done absolutely zero as chairman.

We need people who can win elections and who understand that the status quo game they are playing is what got us to this point. No boldness, no risk taking, just plain old status quo politics. Well, I'm out.

ancianita

(40,624 posts)
11. Ditto. I've been giving monthly to Leaders We Deserve for over a year now. He's put young Dems in statehouses.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

Every month I get a Big Thank You email from LWD. His team is as visionary as they are young and smart.

https://leaderswedeserve.com



Jack Valentino

(2,286 posts)
15. I have hopes that Trump's approval ratings, and the usual pushback against the presidential incumbent's party
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:07 PM
Wednesday

will be enough to give us the House in 2026--- but the low ratings for the Democratic party certainly don't help any...


bucolic_frolic

(50,788 posts)
6. It was an opportunity to explain himself and his ideas
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:15 PM
Wednesday

"I'm not gonna play anymore!" won't get him anywhere. Proof he's not ready for the brass ring. Yet.

Deuxcents

(22,579 posts)
9. I'm thinking that instead of spending his time hitting his head against a brick wall..he can do much better
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:32 PM
Wednesday

Not constrained by the old guard and his foundation/political group can work from the outside and reach more young people and those who support his ideas. I’m interested in what his mission is gonna be as I’m hoping for some new and more progressive alternatives than what we’ve got.

stillcool

(34,070 posts)
8. he's got some ego going on there
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:24 PM
Wednesday

I guess people like that, but when ego interferes with playing well with others, it interferes, especially when it's the new boss coming in who doesn't know his job. Wants to make it up on the fly because he's young and smart, talks good trash and likes to piss people off.

LuvLoogie

(8,062 posts)
10. He should go out and get a job for a few years.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:43 PM
Wednesday

I mean that sincerely. It will do him good.

hamsterjill

(15,973 posts)
20. I agree with you.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:06 PM
Wednesday

I think he has tremendous potential to be a significant force, but I think he currently lacks the maturity that is going to be necessary to get him to that point. He needs a dose of humility, some life experience other than the tragedy of the school shooting (for which I am sorry for him), and some exposure to learning how to actually get something done in politics.

LuvLoogie

(8,062 posts)
21. Activists are often opportunists that use politicians.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:37 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:43 AM - Edit history (1)

And politicians will often use activists. An activist will find a niche, and that is hard to translate into political office or even party politics. Activists rarely bend on their vision. They find people to advance their causes. A good politician serves his constituents and the constitution. An activist serves his cause. But neither can work in a vacuum or an echo chamber.

I think AOC has the right mix. People mock her stint as a bar tender and they just sound foolish to me. They really don't get how talented, smart, and driven she is. She'll walk away before she burns out or gets jaded. But I see her succeeding in a way that will inspire her to continue in politics.

David is so intense, and it's like he's fighting his parents in their house under their rules. He is trying to affect nationwide political motive. It's a lot.

I think he and the establishment are both wrong in a way. The party needs to not be shy about root Democratic motive. The root of our Democratic cause is exactly what the young are looking for, but the young want it now. The establishment should welcome fresh energy and find a way to make them excited about being classic Democrats.

In this climate, though, our establishment is content to just let trump fuck up shit while he fucks up. And it's asking a bit much to ask for patience from the young.



MuseRider

(34,709 posts)
12. This makes me sad and mad that we still seem
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:03 PM
Wednesday

to have too many stodgy and afraid of change people with this much influence in our party.

Nothing these young folks say is going down in concrete, we need the chance for us oldies to listen to what they see and think and say.
I am an oldy and I WANT to hear what they say. How about listening to younger women? ALL young people all of them. I particularly am interested in their ideas to keep LGBTQ issues moving forward. We worked damned hard on that in Kansas and we made a ton of progress but everything for anyone not male or straight is coming right back to the way we are "SUPPOSED" to be and I and so so many others do not want that slide back.

I am old, most of my pals that I fought with are old now too and there are not many able to butt through the walls it seems. We NEED these younger kids or we will just sink back to how everything was before and that was not good but we at least had a toe hold where people worked on this.

Damn, I was looking forward to that wonderful buzz you get when you are older and listening to younger people get excited and putting out jobs for us who sit and wait for our turn to help. When it was working here there was nothing better. It still works but there just seems to be a weight on their heads. Can't we do this without just punching them back down and discarding what might be good and successful ideas?

Hope this made sense...migraine...off for a nap.

Puppyjive

(733 posts)
13. Dems will never get control, we deserve better
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:35 PM
Wednesday

This is gawd awful and should not be happening . I am 59 and I had high hopes for this young person.

reACTIONary

(6,467 posts)
17. What is so wrong with the DNC....
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Wednesday

.... being neutral towards primary candidates? And what is rso ight about primarying dems in safe seats?

lees1975

(6,600 posts)
19. You mean the Democrats in safe seats, sitting on their hands, doing nothing except protecting their turf and raising
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:25 PM
Wednesday

money, hoping for another term with paychecks and power and influence while Rome burns?

Those Democrats? You know, I think Hogg's idea was great, and now that he's not restrained by the status quo rules of a moribund organization like the DNC, he'll more effectively help get rid of some of that dead weight and get some candidates who are williing to take risks and be bold enough to save American democracy, if it still can be saved.

Time to clean house. Otherwise, get used to the GOP being in power for a long time, because we're not going to win with politicians who have earned a 26% approval rating.

stillcool

(34,070 posts)
22. are there names for those dead weight
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:50 AM
Yesterday

Democrats? and those polling numbers...how do the dead weights poll in the states that elected them. Isn't finding people to run for office with a shot of being elected the entire reason there is a DNC? "Build" the party. The GOP has permanent majorities in many of the red states so you prioritize plucking 'dead weight' over finding viable candidates to compete in every state and game over. The disdain for the Democratic party is visceral.

betsuni

(27,992 posts)
23. Caricatured old Democratic corruption monster enemies purged, purify the party in glorious transformation revolution.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:12 AM
Yesterday

A children's fairy tale.

reACTIONary

(6,467 posts)
27. Oh, come on now...
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
18 hrs ago

... tell us what you REALY think!

Now that Hog is no longer in the DNC, he can do what he wants. None the less, it seems to be a waste of time, money, and resources. It would not, by definition, increase the Democratic coalition, and it would put safe seats at some level of risk, by running candidates with less experience, less name recognition, and more extreme ideological views, which might turn off many voters.

This is a reflection of the MAGA strategy that has cost the GOP several elections. The MAGA faithful turn out for the primary, elect an extremist, then lose the general election.

As far as the DNC goes, ALL organizations and coalitions have a status quo, moribund core. That is what makes them a cohesive, ongoing organization. Like it or not.

mackdaddy

(1,777 posts)
18. I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:21 PM
Wednesday

Still true 100 years later...

Kid Berwyn

(20,651 posts)
24. Corporate Dems For Ever!
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:10 AM
20 hrs ago

The leadership destroys a font of strategic thinking needed to grow a viable political party needs.

Nothing like enjoying a destiny of permanent minority opposition status as the country slides into kakistocracy.

Abstractartist

(249 posts)
26. Hmmm
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:17 AM
19 hrs ago

Maybe Schumer can write a strongly worded letter….

😑

And you wonder why we are not in the majority of the house, senate or White House…

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