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LetMyPeopleVote

(164,650 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:50 PM Wednesday

DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles

Source: Politico

Democratic National Committee members removed David Hogg his vice chair position — discharging the 25-year-old activist and another vice chair from national party posts amid his threats to take on “ineffective” Democratic incumbents in primaries.

The virtual vote, which concluded on Wednesday and the results were obtained by POLITICO, vacated its two vice chair positions, stemming from a procedural complaint unrelated to Hogg’s primary activities, and put forth a plan to hold a new election. Hogg and Pennsylvania state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta must now run again for their positions next week.

The election offers a potential reset for a party that’s dealt with a series of Hogg-related controversies in recent weeks.

In April, Hogg announced the group that he co-founded, Leaders We Deserve, planned to drop $20 million on safe-seat Democratic primaries, hoping to oust “asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats. The move triggered a wave of anger from elected officials and DNC members alike, who vented that Hogg’s role as a party leader conflicted with the decision to take on incumbents.

The internal drama exploded again over the weekend, when POLITICO reported on leaked audio from a DNC meeting in which Chair Ken Martin told Hogg and other DNC leaders that his leadership has suffered due to the clash. The vice chair, Martin said, had “essentially destroyed any chance I have” to show national leadership.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/11/hogg-vote-new-election-dnc-00401673




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DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday OP
Self cilla4progress Wednesday #1
now he is completely free to do what he wants with his million dollar PAC. will he be grateful or whiny nt msongs Wednesday #2
He is free to run again if he desires and may very well win MichMan Wednesday #6
Yeah, his "PAC" that he gets all the money. Mysterian Wednesday #21
Explain please Rebl2 Wednesday #26
Hogg pocketed more than $175,000 of the PAC money in salary Mysterian Wednesday #29
That's not even close to being an unusually large salary for such a position.... Jack Valentino Wednesday #31
Riiiigghhht Mysterian Wednesday #38
OH--- well, I was basing my response on the $20 million they are hoping to spend next year... Jack Valentino 7 hrs ago #79
Hope is not a valid method Mysterian 6 hrs ago #80
Seems out Rebl2 Wednesday #32
That seems unusually low to me mcar 19 hrs ago #65
Before I make a judgement, I would like to see how other PAC's compare. Fla Dem 19 hrs ago #67
I would like the names of these Democratic committee members.... FarPoint Wednesday #3
He's a very powerful advocate for common-sense firearm legislation. cab67 Wednesday #5
They aren't "throwing him out the door" MichMan Wednesday #7
No one is "throwing David out the door" Docreed2003 10 hrs ago #78
Here is a good explanation for this action LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #4
I call it an excuse. HoosierDebbie Wednesday #9
there are a lot of Robert's Rules bullies roaming in these sorts of committees cadoman Wednesday #36
Who voted for this? ChrisW001 22 hrs ago #56
Thanks. ificandream Wednesday #13
easy solution jaymac 22 hrs ago #54
I wonder if they would be redoing the election if two different men had won. mahina Wednesday #8
golly gee et tu Wednesday #10
Exactly DiverDave Wednesday #25
Or opt not to vote. H2O Man Wednesday #37
If only Democrats could be so efficient in dispatching Republicans, the same way. Buddyzbuddy Wednesday #11
I don't see how a procedural removal warrants a story that reads like he was being punished. ificandream Wednesday #12
I mean, I like him fine LuvLoogie Wednesday #14
Translation - David Hogg got canned because he had the audacity to say, "ineffective" Democratic incumbents" flashman13 Wednesday #15
I mean how DARE gay texan Wednesday #24
It is absolutely a street fight. You don't win street fights with strongly worded letters. flashman13 15 hrs ago #69
Hogg spreads lies creeksneakers2 Wednesday #42
If the DNC Democrats are doing all they can (HARDLY?), we are doomed as a nation! flashman13 15 hrs ago #70
What more could they do? creeksneakers2 15 hrs ago #72
Democrats need something HoosierDebbie Wednesday #16
They are doing all the can creeksneakers2 Wednesday #43
I don't understand this line angrychair Wednesday #17
Well stated angrychair. MuirHero Wednesday #33
Welcome to DU! red dog 1 Wednesday #41
Why are Dems continually locked in a death spiral? Mawspam2 Wednesday #18
Great. But no need to go after the people who are there now. creeksneakers2 Wednesday #45
Who should we "go after?" Happy Hoosier 20 hrs ago #64
Why not go after Republicans? creeksneakers2 15 hrs ago #73
and when people vote with the gop DonCoquixote 10 hrs ago #74
It could be slightly less bad creeksneakers2 2 hrs ago #82
That's BS we need these young bomb throwers to inspire the base. kimbutgar Wednesday #19
This is mistake Sucha NastyWoman Wednesday #20
headline gay texan Wednesday #22
Shout out for mentioning BartCop Dyedinthewoolliberal Wednesday #27
He DID predict this.... n/t gay texan Wednesday #40
I saw a story about a poll NJCher Yesterday #50
Foot meets DNC BidenRocks Wednesday #23
They aren't LT Barclay Wednesday #44
See? He's succeeding in dividing us. creeksneakers2 Wednesday #46
when the dnc backstabs DonCoquixote 10 hrs ago #75
The DNC didn't back stab Bernie. creeksneakers2 2 hrs ago #81
I'm done contributing to the DNC MuirHero Wednesday #48
Par for the DNC course ILikePie92 Wednesday #28
"stemming from a procedural complaint unrelated to Hogg's primary activities"--- Jack Valentino Wednesday #30
This young man should run for Congress himself somewhere--- Jack Valentino Wednesday #34
Hogg rooted out. Sneederbunk Wednesday #35
Kenyatta is going to take Hogg's place. Here's The Guardian's report. ancianita Wednesday #39
Good.. I'm glad Malcolm Kenyatta is taking Cha Yesterday #52
Great. Kenyatta really called out Hogg's BS, which is likely Nixie 20 hrs ago #60
Profoundly stupid move Picaro Wednesday #47
When re-doing a vote for a position in an organization that funds general election candidates and organizes betsuni Yesterday #49
Kennie should get over his butthurt and resign. Jirel Yesterday #51
Some people bitterly cling to their guns and religion, others to their tenured positions and safe seats BeyondGeography Yesterday #53
Good! It's time to SUPPORT Democrats and REMOVE Republicans. Oopsie Daisy 22 hrs ago #55
Ideological belief that the old guard of the Democratic Establishment is the true roadblock to progress. betsuni 21 hrs ago #57
Exactly. They never consider that the war on old people, the war Nixie 19 hrs ago #66
does that mean DonCoquixote 10 hrs ago #76
this is why Snoopy 7 21 hrs ago #58
Thanks. It's just ancianita 20 hrs ago #59
DNC is the PROBLEM, not the answer in its current form IrishBubbaLiberal 20 hrs ago #61
Too conservative how? betsuni 15 hrs ago #71
WE are determined to commit political suicide. Happy Hoosier 20 hrs ago #62
Let's keep everything the same so we can keep on winning. Passages 20 hrs ago #63
Stupid move travelingthrulife 19 hrs ago #68
These histrionic headlines aren't doing anyone any favors Docreed2003 10 hrs ago #77

msongs

(71,423 posts)
2. now he is completely free to do what he wants with his million dollar PAC. will he be grateful or whiny nt
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:51 PM
Wednesday

Jack Valentino

(2,286 posts)
31. That's not even close to being an unusually large salary for such a position....
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:58 PM
Wednesday

Is the leader of a PAC supposed to work without any salary ?

Mysterian

(5,682 posts)
38. Riiiigghhht
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:50 PM
Wednesday

With only 28% of the money going to candidates.

He sure earned that hefty salary.

Jack Valentino

(2,286 posts)
79. OH--- well, I was basing my response on the $20 million they are hoping to spend next year...
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:53 PM
7 hrs ago

It would be a very small fraction of that.

Rebl2

(16,505 posts)
32. Seems out
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:59 PM
Wednesday

Of over $11 million the PAC took in, only around 28% of the PAC money went to democratic candidates. Is that an unusual low amount going to candidates or is that a normal amount.

Fla Dem

(26,777 posts)
67. Before I make a judgement, I would like to see how other PAC's compare.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:38 AM
19 hrs ago

Actually to me it does not seem unreasonable. You have to pay salaries, taxes, rent, travel expenses, etc, all those expenses that support a very active campaign organization. The salary also does not seem terribly unreasonable.
So as I said while I have no idea what it takes to run a highly visible and active PAC, it would be good to see the expenses for other PAC's before I would make a judgement on the expenses and Hogg's salary.

FarPoint

(13,997 posts)
3. I would like the names of these Democratic committee members....
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 06:53 PM
Wednesday

who are throwing David out the door?

I wish to file my complaint.

cab67

(3,391 posts)
5. He's a very powerful advocate for common-sense firearm legislation.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:01 PM
Wednesday

I get the sense he was out of his depth in this particular position.

MichMan

(15,249 posts)
7. They aren't "throwing him out the door"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
Wednesday

Just agreeing that the election that he won was fraudulent and requiring a new election. He may very well win again.

Docreed2003

(18,268 posts)
78. No one is "throwing David out the door"
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:01 PM
10 hrs ago

The DNC is complying with its own rules, they are holding a new election for vice chair, and Hogg is declining to run for that position.

cadoman

(1,328 posts)
36. there are a lot of Robert's Rules bullies roaming in these sorts of committees
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Wednesday

They usually know the rules better than they know their bibles and if you don't want to incur their wrath you must do everything perfectly.

I thought Hogg defended his approach well (citing historical precedent) and it's clear that it was a "rules for thee but not for me" sort of mindset among some in the committee. Maybe he'll get elected again but I think it's for the best if he focuses on his PAC.

ChrisW001

(1 post)
56. Who voted for this?
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:08 AM
22 hrs ago

Why did the DNC wait for so long before deciding they had broken their own rules for elections? That should be the sort of thing you notice right away. Or maybe they do it all the time so that if someone starts causing problems, they can say 'ooops, we ignored our own rules months ago, need to redo your election!'

Aren't the DNC voters the sitting members of congress, living POTUS and Veeps? They should know how voting rules work.

jaymac

(19 posts)
54. easy solution
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:46 AM
22 hrs ago

Just bloody appoint another vice chair position. Kenyatta and Hogg are two young up and comers who should be encouraged, not vilified. isn't this what we complain about dems projects.....too many hoops and layers to be effective? too many requirements and studies need to get done before a project even starts? that is why young folks did not see the progress Biden's agenda was o accomplish but got slowed down to snail's pace?
appoint Ms. Free the a new vice chair.........let's get things rolling folks....

mahina

(19,804 posts)
8. I wonder if they would be redoing the election if two different men had won.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:14 PM
Wednesday

Please excuse me while I had to go dig in the sofa to find some money to give to David and Malcolm

DiverDave

(5,116 posts)
25. Exactly
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:32 PM
Wednesday

My 2 20 something and friends are not happy with th DNC.
fucks the matter with the old geezer?

H2O Man

(76,914 posts)
37. Or opt not to vote.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:20 PM
Wednesday

Or to register as independents, who outnumber Democrats today. The party needs to connect much better with the public. I'm not sure that the DNC puts as much effort into that, than trying to get republican support.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,008 posts)
11. If only Democrats could be so efficient in dispatching Republicans, the same way.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:30 PM
Wednesday

Like Biden, Franken and now Hogg.

ificandream

(11,159 posts)
12. I don't see how a procedural removal warrants a story that reads like he was being punished.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:33 PM
Wednesday

Seems like the writer was looking for an angle he didn't have.

flashman13

(1,277 posts)
15. Translation - David Hogg got canned because he had the audacity to say, "ineffective" Democratic incumbents"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 07:56 PM
Wednesday

don't own their seats. If they can't defend their positions and actions they need to face primary challenges. Let the voters decide who represents their wants and desires. That is how democracy works.

gay texan

(3,010 posts)
24. I mean how DARE
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:31 PM
Wednesday

anyone call out the actions of a "Strongly worded letter"

This is a fucking street fight, all rules are off. Fucking cowards step aside

"Well this isn't the proper optics of political debate and this could ultimately harm the party on a whole" says the cherry picked (by committee) DNC spokesperson

STAND THE LITERAL FUCK UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN YOU FUCKING COWARDS

flashman13

(1,277 posts)
69. It is absolutely a street fight. You don't win street fights with strongly worded letters.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:17 PM
15 hrs ago

creeksneakers2

(7,683 posts)
42. Hogg spreads lies
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:31 PM
Wednesday

Democrats are pretty much doing all they can. Hogg falsely claims they are sitting on their hands. He's going to hurt turn out and help the Fascists. I hate Hogg.

flashman13

(1,277 posts)
70. If the DNC Democrats are doing all they can (HARDLY?), we are doomed as a nation!
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:20 PM
15 hrs ago

BTW What happened to don't dis fellow Democrats?

creeksneakers2

(7,683 posts)
72. What more could they do?
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:53 PM
15 hrs ago

Most of the votes against Trump are unanimous. They communicate what a problem Trump is. There are hundreds of court cases against him. Town halls have been held. The Supreme Court and Fascists fixed it so Trump can get away with murder. His followers mentally block out the truth. The best hope is taking back on or both houses of Congress in 2026. Hogg is working AGAINST that.



https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-two-dnc-leader-david-hogg-slams-pelosis-too-well-timed-stock-trades

HoosierDebbie

(429 posts)
16. Democrats need something
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:03 PM
Wednesday

Democrats need something other than the same-old, same-old. If new voices and new tactics don't rise to the occasion, it is all over. Politicians who aren't making waves and fighting the traditional avenues will not help any of us. Of 212 Democrats in the House of Representatives and how many have made their mark? How many do we recognize for their advocacy? I pay quite a bit of attention to House business and I don't think I could name more than 25 who fight for their constituents. This is why I think the younger generations should take over for a lot of do-nothing, seemingly-tenured incumbents.

In the house, 56 democrats are over 70 years old. 30 republicans. In the current congress, only 16% of House and Senate members are younger than 45. (New York Times from June 4 of this year "The Age Issue".


creeksneakers2

(7,683 posts)
43. They are doing all the can
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:35 PM
Wednesday

What do you expect them to do? Thanks to Hogg and others the lies that they aren't fighting are spreading and will hurt turnout. These falsehoods help Republicans. I bet half the money Hogg got came from Republicans.

angrychair

(10,709 posts)
17. I don't understand this line
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:16 PM
Wednesday
who vented that Hogg’s role as a party leader conflicted with the decision to take on incumbents.


This sentence encapsulates why some people balk about the DNC at times, including our young Mr. Hogg.

Now I perfectly understand that the mission of the DNC is Democratic majorities but that is a very different mission than rubber-stamping incumbents which that line would clearly imply to the average listener. We can't say we need a different approach then punish people for taking a new approach. My only rub with what he did is that as a DNC vice-chair he should not be publicly directing or orchestrating a non-DNC PAC to do anything.
What we should be doing is fielding the best candidates for the job.
Sitting back and running on autopilot while recycling the old guard is not going to cut it anymore.
I can hear the pushback already. I'm not saying all old members of Congress or incumbents are bad. I am saying that being an incumbent should never be an automatic golden ticket to DNC endorsement/support.

Mawspam2

(961 posts)
18. Why are Dems continually locked in a death spiral?
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:27 PM
Wednesday

We need new blood who can speak beyond Facebook or old media like Newsweek.

Happy Hoosier

(8,948 posts)
64. Who should we "go after?"
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:26 AM
20 hrs ago

Just wondering. If the peopl in the DNC now aren;t responsible for it, who is?

In any case, no friggin' money for the DNC until they get their shit together. I'll fund individual candidates.

DonCoquixote

(13,886 posts)
74. and when people vote with the gop
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:17 PM
10 hrs ago

it is also theirs..

We at the least need to act like Mitch when he tried his best to make oabma a one term president. Instead..some dems who know better vote with the gop

gay texan

(3,010 posts)
22. headline
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:18 PM
Wednesday

"I have no idea why we can't connect with younger people, the polls say they hate us!!!" says completely f-ing clueless DNC head...

JFC this is NOT what we fucking need at this moment.

BARTCOP had it right. We are the masters of backstabbing. AOC needs to be organizing this fucking shitshow....at least she knows how to fucking street fight

NJCher

(40,323 posts)
50. I saw a story about a poll
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:02 AM
Yesterday


snip
What To Know
A Quinnipiac University Poll of 1,265 registered voters nationwide, conducted between June 5 and June 9, found that disapproval of Democrats in Congress has increased since a February poll.

Seventy percent of participants said they disapprove of how Democrats are handling their jobs in Congress, while 21 percent approve. Among Democrats, 53 percent disapprove, and 41 percent approve. Just 9 percent of Republicans approve of Democrats' performance, while 84 percent disapprove.

A similar Quinnipiac University poll of 1,039 registered voters in February found that 68 percent of participants disapproved of congressional Democrats and 52 percent disapproved of congressional Republicans.

snip

https://www.newsweek.com/disapproval-rating-democrats-congress-poll-2084270

BidenRocks

(1,616 posts)
23. Foot meets DNC
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:25 PM
Wednesday

They shoot it and stick it in body orifices.
Are they on our side? I don't think they speak for me.
Out with the old and ineffective.
Pass the torch and fuck your divisive rules!
I support new ideas.
Dumping David Hogg was really ignorant!
Don't ask me for money either DNC!

LT Barclay

(2,964 posts)
44. They aren't
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:36 PM
Wednesday

I have this from someone who was close to the political organizer who helped secure the African-American vote in Arkansas for Bill Clinton in his run for governor and for president back in 1992. Someone here probably knows his name.
He was told that it is all about the donors.

DonCoquixote

(13,886 posts)
75. when the dnc backstabs
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:20 PM
10 hrs ago

and trashes aoc, Bernie, and any progressives, they are doing a fine job of dividing us.

creeksneakers2

(7,683 posts)
81. The DNC didn't back stab Bernie.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:23 AM
2 hrs ago

For a short time he didn't get a fair shake on the debate schedule but that got fixed. When the E-mails got hacked the media reported that they found the DNC has screwed Bernie but all there was was a few of them saying negative things about him amongst themselves. That was understandable because Bernie kept making false accusations about the DNC. I went through every E-mail. Nothing. They didn't hurt Bernie. Bernie lost because he's too extreme.

I never heard of them doing anything to AOC.

Its the "progressives" that always screw the party, not the other way around. Many of them wouldn't vote for Hillary and some even hated her so much they voted for Trump. They cost us Al Gore and I've never seen a single one say that was a mistake. I've seen David Hogg is spreading those same lies and they'll peel off all they can in 2026 and try to keep us from getting a good shot at Trump.

That is why the right loves David Hogg. The Daily Signal is a publication of the Heritage Foundation, the same bozos who brought us project 2025. Look at how much the kiss Hogg's ass and play his game: i bet half that money Hogg has collected came from Republicans.

https://mail.dailysignal.com/p/david-hogg-s-sacrifice-at-the-altar-of-dei-shows-why-democrats-are-losing-young-men-5ae69cff3a2e2122

MuirHero

(31 posts)
48. I'm done contributing to the DNC
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:53 PM
Wednesday

I will continue to contribute directly to the campaigns of progressive candidates.

Jack Valentino

(2,286 posts)
34. This young man should run for Congress himself somewhere---
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:04 PM
Wednesday

perhaps even taking on one of those "ineffective" Democratic incumbents.


ancianita

(40,624 posts)
39. Kenyatta is going to take Hogg's place. Here's The Guardian's report.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:56 PM
Wednesday
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/11/david-hogg-dnc-democrats

Hogg’s withdrawal means that Pennsylvania state lawmaker Malcolm Kenyatta is the only candidate eligible for the male vice-chair role. A second vote will be held later this week for the second vice-chair position, which can be a candidate of any gender.

Kenyatta, who has been sharply critical of Hogg and the attention focused on him, said in a statement that he was “grateful” to his supporters and eager to move forward.

“Democrats must be bold and meet this moment,” he said. “This is the urgent work in front of us: to stand up to authoritarianism, to protect care and dignity, and to make life better for the people who count on us.”

Cha

(311,775 posts)
52. Good.. I'm glad Malcolm Kenyatta is taking
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 02:01 AM
Yesterday

Hogg's place... And I hope Kalyn Free wins the other Chair. She's the one who sued the DNC to get another election.. and happy she did.

Kalyn Cherie Free is an American attorney and former elected district attorney1. She is a tribal citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma and is the first woman and Native American to be elected district attorney in Oklahoma1. During her administration, she focused on fighting for women, children, and crime victim's rights

Found on Bing under Who is Kalyn Free..

Kalyn Cherie Free (born November 1963) is an American attorney,[1] former elected district attorney, and a tribal citizen of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. Free represents Oklahoma as the National Committeeperson on the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalyn_Free

Mahalo, ancianita..

Nixie

(17,700 posts)
60. Great. Kenyatta really called out Hogg's BS, which is likely
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:19 AM
20 hrs ago

a reason Hogg didn’t want to face such a challenge to his facade. We’re in very good hands with Kenyatta.

Picaro

(2,028 posts)
47. Profoundly stupid move
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:49 PM
Wednesday

Old guard circles the wagons. The circular firing squad will be vaulting over the horizon to save the day at any moment. Maybe they’ll primary AOC. That’ll fix it.

betsuni

(27,992 posts)
49. When re-doing a vote for a position in an organization that funds general election candidates and organizes
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 12:32 AM
Yesterday

the national convention becomes a wild conspiracy theory resulting in people screaming about, like, totally breaking up with Democrats.

Knock yourselves out, Republicans love it!

Jirel

(2,284 posts)
51. Kennie should get over his butthurt and resign.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:05 AM
Yesterday

The party had a real shot to cull some DINOs. Now it threw that away, and instead of smart new blood at the helm we have a middle aged whiner who failed upwards.

BeyondGeography

(40,467 posts)
53. Some people bitterly cling to their guns and religion, others to their tenured positions and safe seats
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 02:27 AM
Yesterday

I will continue to follow Hogg with interest and to donate to him, his DNC opponents not so much.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,856 posts)
55. Good! It's time to SUPPORT Democrats and REMOVE Republicans.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:53 AM
22 hrs ago

This BS about primarying Democrats in "safe districts" was nothing more than "Justice Democrats" and "Our Revolution" and others who adhere to and promote their anti-Democrat philosophies, trying to hamstring and sabotage the party. FTS! 🖕🤬💩

betsuni

(27,992 posts)
57. Ideological belief that the old guard of the Democratic Establishment is the true roadblock to progress.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:26 AM
21 hrs ago

It's projection when they say Democrats don't take Republicans seriously. They think Republican voters will quickly join the revolution of the 99% against the 1% when the mean old Democrats who caused or didn't stop their "economic anxiety" are purged.

Nixie

(17,700 posts)
66. Exactly. They never consider that the war on old people, the war
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 09:21 AM
19 hrs ago

on white men and the war on oligarchs got us an old, white oligarch as president. It’s always about something else than what is right in front of us. Looks like the experienced Democrats know things they don’t.

DonCoquixote

(13,886 posts)
76. does that mean
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:26 PM
10 hrs ago

we just give the old white oligarchs whatever they want and be thankful for our gruel?

Snoopy 7

(662 posts)
58. this is why
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:48 AM
21 hrs ago

This is why the dnc is against David, https://www.commondreams.org/news/dnc-2024, this article tells about the Progressive Movement and how they are trying to push the democratic party to help the working class. All the dnc is doing is trying to get the rich donars, who are not pro working class, to give them the millions of dollars that they currently possess...

ancianita

(40,624 posts)
59. Thanks. It's just
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:11 AM
20 hrs ago

that one can hardly blame the leadership for chasing rich donors. It's Citizens United that's driving that, passed by a MAGA SCOTUS that has wanted their rich benefactor, Koch, to capture the republican votes under any false pretext.

If and when we ever win a presidential trifecta again Citizens United is here to stay, unfortunately.

Docreed2003

(18,268 posts)
77. These histrionic headlines aren't doing anyone any favors
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:00 PM
10 hrs ago

"DNC boots Hogg...and another vice chair".

First of all, they didn't "boot" anyone. This was a procedural move to allow a new vote to rectify a discrepancy in the previous election where the DNC failed to follow its own rules. Hogg isn't "booted", he would just be required to run again for his post...which he's said he's not going to consider.

Second, David Hogg this David Hogg that...Ask yourself why this dude is the only person being mentioned in the headlines. That "other vice chair" actually has a name and, fun fact, will be running for his seat in the redo election. Malcolm Kenyatta has a name...he actually has been working his ass off for the party since his election, unlike some folks who seem to prefer making an ass out of themselves on podcasts and the interview circuit.

These headlines are meant to sow distrust in the party and are playing to the same type of disunity some tried and successfully used in 2016, and in 2024 frankly. Don't stop at headlines folks. We have to be educated and understand what's actually going on and not fall for misinformation and spin.

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