British photographer, 60, shot by police at LA protests
Last edited Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:36 AM - Edit history (1)
Source: The Times (UK)
A British photographer has undergone surgery after being shot by police while covering the anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles.
Nick Stern was hit with what doctors believe was a 14mm high-velocity sponge bullet that tore into his thigh while he was taking pictures of a stand-off between protesters and law enforcement on Saturday evening.
I had a press ID round my neck, a large camera, a video camera
I was making a point of making myself visible as media, he told The Times.
-snip-
With blood pouring from his leg, medics tied a tourniquet and piled on dressings. At the hospital, he underwent scans and X-rays. The doctor came in and said, Theres something in your leg, were not sure what it is. I said, Is it shrapnel? He said, Well, its about 40mm wide and 60mm long, and I said Ah
I know exactly what that is now and I explained and the doctor [said], Yeah, thats it.
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Read more: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/nick-stern-shot-la-riots-british-photographer-ftk9sh22x
Important note: The word "riots" was used ONLY in the headline, not in the story, or by the photographer, Nick Stern, as far as I can tell. Misleading headline.
Note on the note above, added 8 hours after posting this story. The word "riots" in the original headline was changed to "protests" sometime before reply 40 was posted, so I'm correcting "British photographer, 60, shot by police at LA riots" to "British photographer, 60, shot by police at LA protests" - and the original link using the word "riots" still works.
Stern had taken photos of two women waving a Mexican flag, their backs to him as they stood facing a line of sheriff's deputies down the street. He had turned and was walking away from the women and deputies when he was shot.
He said that from what he'd seen earlier, he felt what the police were doing with flash-bangs, rubber bullets, pepper bullets and sponge rounds "was indiscriminate targeting of everybody whos at the protests."

enid602
(9,392 posts)Poor guy will probably have a heart attack once he sees his hospital bill.
Orrex
(65,302 posts)Then his family would be in line for $30M.
IronLionZion
(49,072 posts)
Bayard
(25,402 posts)underpants
(190,975 posts)Sean Taylor was a franchise safety (10+ years typically) who confronted an intruder in his house in 2007. He was 24. The kid who broke into his house shot him in the leg at it hit the femoral artery. He never had a chance at that point.
GiqueCee
(2,328 posts)... if it's heavy, a tourniquet is appropriate. Better safe than sorry.
underpants
(190,975 posts)We trained on tourniquets in the Army. I thought it was end-stage stuff or at least preventing end-stage. Looking back, we trained on tourniquets a lot. Probably twice a year. Probably not just technical (not complicated) but mental - to make sure youve thought about doing this. Such was the nature of the job.
Srkdqltr
(8,462 posts)underpants
(190,975 posts)Akakoji
(314 posts)A tourniquet is applied to stop bleeding when you really have no idea of the victims circumstances, health history, and extent of injury. Id say it has to come off within 60 minutes, although no really serious repercussions like permanent nerve damage, necrosis manifest until 2 hours.
IbogaProject
(4,478 posts)That is a large object to have pierce the skin.
moniss
(7,423 posts)In Israel and the West Bank and Gaza.
Clouds Passing
(5,060 posts)benpollard
(240 posts)The police intentionally shot reporters during the BLM protests. The truth makes the police look bad, so they're getting their revenge on reporters.
Wisky64
(2 posts)The MPD special tactics Gus were driving around in unmarked vans shooting supposedly non lethal rounds at anyone and anywhere. They called it plinking They took bets from each other on whether they could hit a far distant citizen. They tried to plink a black fellow but missed. The guy looked around and all he saw was an unmarked van with gun barrels sticking out. So he grabbed his real gun from his trunk and returned fire. He didnt hit anything but MPD charged him with attempted murder. He was found not guilty at trial but you can see the dichotomy between shooters.
DENVERPOPS
(12,515 posts)in Denver during the BLM demonstrations......The Denver City Council paid out millions and millions in settlements for Police Brutality.
The DPD was shooting the rubber bullets directly at people, not at the ground in front of them as told in the manufacturers directions of allowable uses. Many got hit in the torso some in the face.
The metal tear gas grenades that are launched from a gun that are supposed to be shot way up in the air, and come down in the crowd? A DPD officer shot one directly at a persons FACE........Fracturing his facial bones and causing him to lose an eye......
There are many good cops on the DPD......and some not.
Both Denver City Council and Aurora City Council have paid out tens of millions for settlements of Police Brutality. In one case in Aurora, Aurora PD and Paramedics literally euthanized a young black guy, who was just walking down the street with his can of pop. Two? APD and Two? Aurora Paramedics were charged with Felonies, but I believe only two received prison sentences.......
The Colorado State Patrol who were at the Denver BLM, saw what the Denver Cops were doing, and got between the DPD and the protestors, turned their backs to the DPD attempting to shield the people, and told the Demonstrators to run.
The Colorado State Patrol officers are at a whole higher level above the City LEO's
Reader Rabbit
(2,687 posts)Article didnt seem to specify (although I am trying to read in a very distracting environment).
highplainsdem
(56,533 posts)yellowcanine
(36,514 posts)
highplainsdem
(56,533 posts)Vinca
(52,174 posts)AntiFascist
(13,313 posts)stillcool
(33,983 posts)Aaron KellerApr 13th, 2022, 6:37 pm
Two federal agencies have agreed to settle a civil lawsuit by protesters and activists who were forced out of Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C. on June 1, 2020, while protesting the death of George Floyd, Jr., the U.S. Department of Justice announced on Wednesday.
It then noted that the DOJ later officially acknowledged that Defendant Barr ordered Lafayette Square cleared minutes before the assault started.
Defendant Barr issued this order following a series of statements from Defendant Trump in the days and hours leading up to this attack in which he clearly threatened to use and encouraged violence against protesters, the lawsuit alleged
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The federal government is committed to the highest standards for protecting civil rights and civil liberties in any federal law enforcement response to public demonstrations, Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta said in a statement. These changes to agency policies for protest responses will strengthen our commitment to protecting and respecting constitutionally protected rights.

https://www.motherjones.com/anti-racism-police-protest/2021/06/photoessay-eyes-shot-police-brutality-protests/
The Shot in the Eye Squad
After losing a retina to less lethal police munitions during a George Floyd protest, I decided to start a club.
Photos and Interviews by Wil Sands
June 2, 2021
Its been a year since I was shot in the face with a tear gas canister. I remember hearing the shot. When I close my eyes I can still see the spinning aluminum canister flying toward me. Like ripples in a puddle the impact rolled through my eye, instantaneously detaching my retina. It was the eye I used to create, to document, to sharea photographers eyebut now all I could see through it were dancing shards of light on a background of emptiness.
I was near Lafayette Square in Washington, DC, photographing the protests that had erupted in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. But my mind immediately went to Chile, to the work I had done there in 2019, to the dozens of eyes I saw destroyed during protests in that country, and others. In that moment I knew exactly what my injury could mean.
By September 2020 at least 23 people had been blinded or partially blinded by less lethal munitions used by the police to disperse protests across the country. Blinding by cop, largely an international phenomenon, had arrived in force in the United States. While calls for bans on these weapons have led to limited prohibitions of their use, most police departments continue to see less lethal weapons as legitimate tools for crowd control.

taxi
(2,310 posts)40 by 60 mm is more than 1-1/2" by 2-1/4, or about the size of a bottle of aspirin. As the excerpt below states, this device is meant to incapacitate agressive, non-compliant subjects [like the press according to our current administration]
that is most commonly used by tactical teams in situations where maximum deliverable
energy is desired for the incapacitation of an aggressive, non-compliant subject. In many
municipalities, these are being selected for both tactical call outs and as an available option
for patrol.
https://www.defense-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/40mm-eXact-iMpact-Sponge-Round-6325.pdf
for the information. My grandson shot me with a Nerf bullet when he was a lot younger. It hit my back and stung. I can't imagine a larger missile aimed at and hitting a more vulnerable area.
alfredo
(60,186 posts)
taxi
(2,310 posts)There is a reason that limits are placed on things like scuba tanks, oxygen breathing apparatus, vehicle speeds, and exposure limits. There is a term for when something kills 50% of the time, but I can't remember what it is. This clearly may or may not kill someone. It depends on who, how, and where a person is hit. Will it kill an fetus? How about a baby or a child? A person with heart trouble? Balance issues?
Let me just say it. This is a deadly weapon. It's just not deadly 100% of the time.
intrepidity
(8,294 posts)taxi
(2,310 posts)After several search attempts I had to accept trying to find the term LD50 wasn't as easy as it once was.
C Moon
(12,889 posts)Blue Jean
(17 posts)Were NOT allowed to use in the Capitol Riot. If the Capitol cops had been allowed to hit em with the 40s, then Trumps rioters would not have been able to ransack the Capitol.
But the 40s were with held from the Capitol Police, because Trumps rioters are delicate and bruise easily. 🫤
taxi
(2,310 posts)What kind of stable genius gets this association wrong?
Choose the aggressive, non-compliance group:
a - Retreating reporters
b - Brutal invaders destroying public property
sheshe2
(92,297 posts)highplainsdem
(56,533 posts)4catsmom
(645 posts)and chomping at the bit to shoot unarmed protesters and bystanders. But not armed protesters and bystanders. That would be too scary.
IronLionZion
(49,072 posts)they deliberately targeted journalists and cameramen. Lots of footage of it.
What are you going to do, call the police?
chia
(2,556 posts)I won't be surprised if they aren't *over* people's heads.
Stay safe out there.
3825-87867
(1,423 posts)He needs to be reminded of this in every possible way. Everywhere he goes he needs to meet protestors.
If there is any blood, it's because of Roberts.
Never let him or the families and friends and business acquaintences of those who ruled for this forget this during their lifetimes.
One intentionally fucked up ruling by 6 people who should know better but are accomplices.
And IF there are ever elections again, there should NEVER be any Republican or Conservative Democrat elected to ANY political position...EVER!
And to those here who tried to be oh so legal goodies defending the likes of Garland and his ilk...you really should never post here again. You had to follow the law yet even when they didn't, you made pseudo patriotic excuses pretending we're a country of "laws." Tell that to Miller, the Heritage Foundation and each of those incompetents appointed by a psvchotic along with those who agreed with him.
Shame on you forever.
wolfie001
(5,217 posts)She's assisting him in every way possible as a former RW kook lawyer. *from a Politico article
rickyhall
(5,269 posts)I remember Watts and I was a little kid.
SheltieLover
(69,397 posts)
DENVERPOPS
(12,515 posts)When the DPD fired the Rubber Projectiles at the demonstrators faces, and also shot a metal tear gas canister at a demonstrators face.
The Denver City Council is paying out a fortune in settlements for the DPD's Police Brutality claims......
SalamanderSleeps
(836 posts)wolfie001
(5,217 posts)We're at that point in time. What's next from these sick, racist f6cks?
dawgdan
(25 posts)Members of the press are there to record events, nothing more. They are not there for target practice.
vanlassie
(5,969 posts)Perhaps it has been changed? Do you have a photo of your source? Just curious.
highplainsdem
(56,533 posts)the word "riots" originally. I've edited the OP.
I have no idea when they made the change. Your reply here was more than 7 hours after I posted the story. They probably heard from people who disagreed with their original word choice.
It isn't unusual for newspapers to change headlines, sometimes more than a day after publication.
Anyway, thanks for pointing that out!
jayschool2013
(2,587 posts)to my journalism students about how to survive as a reporter or photojournalist in a police state.
But here we are.
Simply "making a point of making myself visible as media" is not only ineffective, it likely puts an even bigger bullseye on your back.
Old Crank
(5,736 posts)Are they are learning from Israel and how they treat the press in Gaza where there seems to be a large number of press members killed or injured. Even with ID and equipment.
highplainsdem
(56,533 posts)broadcast. Fortunately she was just badly bruised, not wounded.
That post in GD:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220378456
Old Crank
(5,736 posts)a bad bruise is being wounded.
Severe bruising in a limb can result in circulatory problems.