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erronis

(19,246 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:34 PM Friday

Son of CIA deputy director was killed while fighting for Russia, report shows

Source: The Guardian

Michael Alexander Gloss, 21, who died on 4 April 2024, was the son of top-ranking US spy Juliana Gallina

An American man identified as the son of a deputy director of the CIA was killed in eastern Ukraine in 2024 while fighting under contract for the Russian military, according to an investigation by independent Russian media.

Michael Alexander Gloss, 21, died on 4 April 2024 in “Eastern Europe”, according to an obituary published by his family. He was the son of Juliane Gallina, who was appointed the deputy director for digital innovation at the Central Intelligence Agency in February 2024.

The story of how the son of a top-ranking US spy died fighting for Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine is an unlikely tale of how homegrown anger at the United States and online radicalisation led from a middle-class Virginia childhood to the killing fields of eastern Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/25/michael-alexander-gloss-cia-russia



They are on the killing fields in Russia and Ukraine.

And they are amidst us in the US trying to destroy our country. Some working in the upper levels of the government.
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Son of CIA deputy director was killed while fighting for Russia, report shows (Original Post) erronis Friday OP
Maybe Trump will give him a medal or something. Midnight Writer Friday #1
Sounds about right. Medals for those that fight against the US. erronis Friday #3
33 $TRUMP coins. nt Xipe Totec Friday #23
Remember when such an appointment used to require vetting? SheltieLover Friday #2
Time for Donald Jr. and Eric to man up, go fight for their daddy's Russia. Dan Friday #4
I've heard they're big, brave, manly hunters Blue Owl Friday #7
Yeah, that's the perception these actual beta cowards zorbasd Friday #10
Yeah, they kill animals with their big Guns. Cha Friday #17
This happened a year ago. Why was she allowed to remain Deputy Director? SunSeeker Friday #5
I'm unconvinced that people should be punished for the actions of their adult off-spring. TomSlick Friday #11
Did you read her dishonest description of his death? SunSeeker Friday #14
The obit was credited to "the family" not the mother. TomSlick Friday #16
I would give her all the slack in the world if she wasn't an INTELLIGENCE OFFICER. SunSeeker Friday #21
I'd give her all the slack... Mr. Evil Friday #25
I agree with you. markodochartaigh Friday #19
He was "forging his own hero's journey..." dchill Friday #24
Good question Deuxcents Friday #28
Happy he is dead Nigrum Cattus Friday #6
Ugh IronLionZion Friday #8
Is the mom a Republican though? Polybius Saturday #35
Yes, she's a Trump political appointee IronLionZion Saturday #38
No she isn't a Trump appointee Polybius 21 hrs ago #39
I stand corrected. Thanks IronLionZion 20 hrs ago #40
Someone needs to be asked some questions...............seriously............ turbinetree Friday #9
Fishy Iamscrewed Friday #12
Another traitor bites the dust at the hand of our ally Ukraine. Wonder Why Friday #13
one less orc. paleotn Friday #15
And as the saying goes... " Another one bites the dust"... mitch96 Friday #18
Wild read about him LoveSucky Friday #20
Fighting for Fascism mdbl Friday #22
Sure says a lot about the CIA. Mr. Evil Friday #26
Traitor. He gave up his citizenship by enlisting in Russia. marble falls Friday #27
One would think that would have Figarosmom Saturday #29
It's now a Qualification. BurnDoubt Saturday #30
The "best people" didn't get it done in round one, so..... BurnDoubt Saturday #31
Just don't threaten trmp's record of 34 felonies. He's rather proud of that. erronis Saturday #33
Trump probably wishes he could award him a medal Skittles Saturday #32
He joined a gang, got killed. Happens every day. hunter Saturday #34
I totally get your story Polybius Saturday #36
Sort of like Lee Harvey Oswald. kskiska Saturday #37
I am trying to get my head around this, but it is not easy mahina 17 hrs ago #41
Not saying this was the case, but would be completely "understandable". Xolodno 9 hrs ago #42

Midnight Writer

(23,766 posts)
1. Maybe Trump will give him a medal or something.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:38 PM
Friday

Hell, he gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh.

erronis

(19,246 posts)
3. Sounds about right. Medals for those that fight against the US.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Friday

I'm sure trmp has some fake gilt medallions like the ones in his Ofal Oriffice.

zorbasd

(392 posts)
10. Yeah, that's the perception these actual beta cowards
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:38 PM
Friday

are good in .... propagating that they are manly alpha men, but in reality just plain wimps.

SunSeeker

(55,536 posts)
5. This happened a year ago. Why was she allowed to remain Deputy Director?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:49 PM
Friday
“With his noble heart and warrior spirit Michael was forging his own hero’s journey when he was tragically killed in Eastern Europe on April 4, 2024,” his family wrote in the obituary, which did not mention Russia and Ukraine or discuss the circumstances of his death.


TomSlick

(12,351 posts)
11. I'm unconvinced that people should be punished for the actions of their adult off-spring.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:43 PM
Friday

SunSeeker

(55,536 posts)
14. Did you read her dishonest description of his death?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:56 PM
Friday

She described him as a "hero," but he was literally taking up arms in support of our enemy, Russia.

I have no problem with her keeping her job at literally any other job except anywhere in our intelligence apparatus. She clearly cannot be trusted to keep our secrets and stay on our side in intelligence battles with our enemies. Did the CIA know her son was fighting with the Russian army? You can't even get a job in intelligence if your immediate relatives are not US citizens, for fear your loyalties might waver. Her son was a Russian soldier, for fuck's sake.

TomSlick

(12,351 posts)
16. The obit was credited to "the family" not the mother.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:06 PM
Friday

Even if she wrote it, I think we should give a grieving a mother a little slack.

Mr. Evil

(3,265 posts)
25. I'd give her all the slack...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:04 PM
Friday

until the floor dropped out from under her. Fuck her and her traitorous son. Must be related to Tulsi Gabbard.

markodochartaigh

(2,707 posts)
19. I agree with you.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:44 PM
Friday

I'm under the impression that if you apply for even low level positions in the CIA, NSA, etc. they interview almost everyone who ever knew you well. The article says that they are a "middle class" family. I guess in current parlance that means families with a net worth between 1 and 10 million dollars and who are headed only by deputy directors. This seems to be a "rank has its privileges" situation.

IronLionZion

(48,574 posts)
8. Ugh
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:21 PM
Friday


The article doesn't say anything about his mom's views on Russia. Republicans don't try to hide it these days. CIA definitely knew about her son.

IronLionZion

(48,574 posts)
38. Yes, she's a Trump political appointee
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 04:13 PM
Saturday

The Trump administration looks within agencies elevate their supporters to the top.

Polybius

(19,822 posts)
39. No she isn't a Trump appointee
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 12:18 PM
21 hrs ago

She was appointed in 2024, under the Biden Administration.

For Immediate Release: February 7, 2024

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director William J. Burns appointed Juliane Gallina to serve as CIA’s new Deputy Director for Digital Innovation. Ms. Gallina has been part of the intelligence and technology communities for more than 30 years in a wide range of roles from military, civil service, and industry. She most recently served as the Associate Deputy Director for Digital Innovation and previously in the dual-hatted role of Chief Information Officer and the Director of the Information Technology Enterprise at the Agency.

Ms. Gallina will drive initiatives and partnerships to enhance the Agency’s ability to leverage digital technology and innovations to further CIA’s mission. "Juliane brings a wealth of experience from holding multiple leadership positions at the Agency, in the Intelligence Community, and the private sector. Her exceptional breadth of experience, as well as her passion for technology and the Agency workforce make her a natural selection to lead the Directorate of Digital Innovation at this critical time,” said Director Burns.

“It is an honor to be asked to lead the Directorate of Digital Innovation. Throughout my career, I’ve reflected that there are three elements to the perfect job: great people, great technology, great mission—and I’ve been delighted to find all three while serving at CIA. We are in the right place at the right time for positive mission impact,” said Ms. Gallina. Prior to her leadership roles at CIA, Ms. Gallina worked in the private sector as the Vice President of IBM’s Federal Key Accounts. Before joining IBM, she served as a CIA Directorate of Science and Technology officer assigned to the National Reconnaissance Office. Ms. Gallina began her federal service as a US Navy cryptologic officer and retired from the US Navy Reserves in 2013. She holds a Master of Science in both Space Systems and Electrical Engineering. While at the US Naval Academy, Ms. Gallina was the first woman to lead the brigade of midshipmen since its founding in 1846.


https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/cia-names-juliane-gallina-as-deputy-director-for-digital-innovation/#:~:text=Central%20Intelligence%20Agency%20(CIA)%20Director,Deputy%20Director%20for%20Digital%20Innovation.

turbinetree

(26,034 posts)
9. Someone needs to be asked some questions...............seriously............
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:37 PM
Friday

she knew...............and she..............

Wonder Why

(5,551 posts)
13. Another traitor bites the dust at the hand of our ally Ukraine.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:53 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Mr. Evil

(3,265 posts)
26. Sure says a lot about the CIA.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:07 PM
Friday

Far beyond time for that useless money pit to be dissolved. More proof that JFK was right about it.

BurnDoubt

(276 posts)
30. It's now a Qualification.
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 03:03 AM
Saturday

Add a suspended sentence for public lewdness and a pardon for insurrection and you're on your way to the top.

hunter

(39,464 posts)
34. He joined a gang, got killed. Happens every day.
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 10:17 AM
Saturday

My mind went sideways in adolescence and young adulthood.

When I was 21 my parents had no idea where I was or what sorts of trouble I was getting into. I'd pretty much worn them out. They no longer had the energy or the financial resources to deal with my kind of crazy.

Fortunately I survived, albeit with some significant PTSD. Somehow I'd managed to avoid the worst sorts of human predators and self-destructive tendencies.

I'd started talking to my parents again by the time I was 25 but I never told them my worst stories.

That's probably why I'm not seeing any deep conspiracies here. Various sorts of mental illness were common in my family and we were very good at hiding them.

Polybius

(19,822 posts)
36. I totally get your story
Sat Apr 26, 2025, 01:30 PM
Saturday

We all hid stuff from our parents. But in his case, his mom knew that he was fighting for the Russians.

Xolodno

(6,968 posts)
42. Not saying this was the case, but would be completely "understandable".
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:24 AM
9 hrs ago

I've known people from very devout and religious parents who went full on bore against it. Eventually, the hypocrisy overwhelms the logic. Could have this been similar? Too much patriotism and indoctrination? I'm amazed that I still came out as a believer. Granted, nothing like my parents or rest of family.

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