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senseandsensibility

(25,834 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:24 PM 15 hrs ago

This is their strategy for the midterms and Comer is saying it loud and proud

"What we're seeing especially in the blue states is fraud, especially in the minority communities." he said today with no evidence.

Okay, this is a lie. It is BS. We all know that and so it is tempting to sigh, roll your eyes, look away and assume that no one normal believes it.

Unfortunately, when you have Chairman Comer and even the Speaker of the House flat out lying and telegraphing loud and clear what they're going to do we need to pay attention.

What is our strategy to combat this? I need to hear every Dem near a microphone calling this a LIE/ I need to hear them calling Little Mikey Johnson a liar. The time for politics as normal is long gone. Sure this is ridiculous nonsense. But they hold the levers of power and they will stop at nothing.
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This is their strategy for the midterms and Comer is saying it loud and proud (Original Post) senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago OP
Numerous states have been wargaming these scenarios Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #1
I do remember all those. Who doesn't love happy endings? EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #7
I expect the happiest of endings in November Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #9
Let me see if I understand you Cirsium 12 hrs ago #24
Yes, that's it precisely. CivicGrief 12 hrs ago #28
Remember how Rudy publically literally melted mr715 12 hrs ago #25
Yes. How about when he lay down on a CivicGrief 11 hrs ago #34
Yes I do. mr715 11 hrs ago #35
"What we're seeing especially in the blue states is fraud, especially in the minority communities." sop 14 hrs ago #2
What is keeping the Dems from coming back with these concrete examples of R senseandsensibility 14 hrs ago #3
First tactic: call out Comer's racism. He's not just making up "fraud", he's claiming it's by minorities muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #4
My sign for No Kings will say wnylib 14 hrs ago #11
Racism is Patriotism - for Whites Only erronis 14 hrs ago #12
Today I learned BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #17
Musk, Thiel, Trump, and their whole cabal. wnylib 12 hrs ago #26
As Mikey Said, The Fraud Is So Diabolical That Proof Is .... ColoringFool 14 hrs ago #5
Yes I called him out on that yesterday senseandsensibility 14 hrs ago #6
That's the same argument theists use when questioned about proof of god. erronis 12 hrs ago #29
Sorry, but claiming fraud does not win anything for Republicans Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #8
It buys a little bit more loyalty from low-information voters dickthegrouch 14 hrs ago #13
Yup BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #18
With a simple, consistent message coordinated by all Democrats so it's repeated in the media, people we get it! Chasstev365 14 hrs ago #10
Normalize False Accusations of Voter Fraud 2na fisherman 13 hrs ago #14
Yes, senseandsensibility 12 hrs ago #31
Should capital punishment be considered as a penalty for outright political lies? liberalgunwilltravel 13 hrs ago #15
No, we are not barbarians Dave says 11 hrs ago #38
They are setting up to not swear in Figarosmom 13 hrs ago #16
That's what I believe Dave says 11 hrs ago #39
Bush v. Gore Redux 2na fisherman 10 hrs ago #41
Comer and his brother supposedly committed property transfer fraud. ChicagoTeamster 13 hrs ago #19
Hammer on the fact that they're lying and refute it again and again MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #20
Yes! senseandsensibility 11 hrs ago #33
Unfortunately true. calimary 11 hrs ago #37
South Korea orangecrush 13 hrs ago #21
When Chump says the same thing with impunity (other than Kristen Welker calling him a liar) FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #22
When I saw that after the L.A. mayoral primary was lost by Pratt, I KNEW this going to happen in the mid terms. C Moon 12 hrs ago #23
California is the stupidest idea Mad_Machine76 11 hrs ago #40
Charles Foster Kane school of politics. usonian 12 hrs ago #27
Yep. This is their strategy. kentuck 12 hrs ago #30
Clever and original they are not senseandsensibility 11 hrs ago #32
It is interesting that the same guys that promoted the Big Lie in 2020 are doing it again... kentuck 9 hrs ago #42
It's easy to tell when it's bullshit moose65 11 hrs ago #36
Of course. Fraud! Fraudy fraudy fraud! How do we know? "Everyone knows!" Karasu 9 hrs ago #43
Every time a national Republican 'politician' opens their mouth, it is to spit out a LIE, Jack Valentino 6 hrs ago #44
Projection on overdrive. The whole f'ing R KPN 6 hrs ago #45
Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud. summer_in_TX 5 hrs ago #46

Fiendish Thingy

(24,298 posts)
1. Numerous states have been wargaming these scenarios
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:33 PM
14 hrs ago

And have done so for the past several cycles.

Remember all the lawyers who were disbarred after filing false, evidence free challenges to the 2020 elections?

Remember how Kari Lake lost all her challenges? For two different races?

Remember how Tina Peters went to prison?

Remember how Rudi went bankrupt for defaming those Georgia poll workers?

This is not the first rodeo for states with Democratic, and in some cases, Republican secretaries of state and Elections officers.

I think Texas is one state at high risk for ratfuckery by state officials, but in most other states, (at least the ones that will matter for Dem control of house and senate), I’m not worried about their ability to repel any nuisance challenges.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,298 posts)
9. I expect the happiest of endings in November
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:00 PM
14 hrs ago

But that doesn’t mean we won’t have to shoot a photon torpedo down the ventilation shaft of the Death Star first…

CivicGrief

(357 posts)
28. Yes, that's it precisely.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:23 PM
12 hrs ago

I can say this because the poster put me on ignore and can’t be offended. Tina’s out of prison and Kari is waiting to rear her ugly head again. Fulton County is being prepped. But it’s all good.

CivicGrief

(357 posts)
34. Yes. How about when he lay down on a
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:01 PM
11 hrs ago

hotel bed in his boxers thinking he was going to have sex with a minor? Only the best.

mr715

(4,681 posts)
35. Yes I do.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:06 PM
11 hrs ago

That was revolting, but I'm gonna admit something -- I think it was overhyped. When I saw it, I was led to believe that Rudy Giuliani was nigh almost caught in flagrante delicto. What I saw was Giuliani put his hand down his pants and then Sacha Baren Cohen ran in.

I remember hating Rudy Giuliani back when I was school kid.

sop

(19,634 posts)
2. "What we're seeing especially in the blue states is fraud, especially in the minority communities."
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:39 PM
14 hrs ago

What a crock. There's been more voter fraud in The Villages than any other community in Florida.

senseandsensibility

(25,834 posts)
3. What is keeping the Dems from coming back with these concrete examples of R
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:41 PM
14 hrs ago

voter fraud I wonder?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,723 posts)
4. First tactic: call out Comer's racism. He's not just making up "fraud", he's claiming it's by minorities
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:48 PM
14 hrs ago

because he's a racist piece of shit, as far too many Republicans are. This has to be referred to, time and again, as racism.

BaronChocula

(4,888 posts)
17. Today I learned
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:54 PM
13 hrs ago

Thiel was born in SA. I thought he was straight outta Deutschland. Thx.

senseandsensibility

(25,834 posts)
6. Yes I called him out on that yesterday
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:55 PM
14 hrs ago

and the rest of the Dems who actually have a platform, unlike me, need to do so as well.

erronis

(24,739 posts)
29. That's the same argument theists use when questioned about proof of god.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:24 PM
12 hrs ago

Ya just gotta BELIEVE!

Wiz Imp

(10,625 posts)
8. Sorry, but claiming fraud does not win anything for Republicans
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:00 PM
14 hrs ago

They need evidence which they will never have because it isn't happening. Just like Trump lost 60 court cases by claiming fraud without evidence, claiming fraud now will get them nothing. If anything goes to court, they will lose. It just makes them look stupid.

dickthegrouch

(4,712 posts)
13. It buys a little bit more loyalty from low-information voters
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:29 PM
14 hrs ago

People who are continually told from an historically trustworthy position (The Presidency) that fraud is going on, have little motivation to question it.
It doesn't matter that there is no evidence, the M$M is still suppressing all notifications of his losing all these different cases. The SCROTUS is doing its damndest to suppress any of the positive outcomes for us, rewriting established law, ignoring stare decisis, and many other tactics to prop up the fascist State.

Repubs are most definitely winning something from all this.

BaronChocula

(4,888 posts)
18. Yup
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:00 PM
13 hrs ago

It works just like the artificially created mania over crime. Fux news hyperventilates over it. Fux news watchers repeat it. Low-info voters hear it from them. Low-information voters repeat it. But cost of living will most likely beat out fraud as the pinnacle of most people's concern... this time.

Chasstev365

(8,283 posts)
10. With a simple, consistent message coordinated by all Democrats so it's repeated in the media, people we get it!
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:06 PM
14 hrs ago

* Whenever Republican lose, the make up lies about Election Fraud

* When you've done nothing to fix problems for average people, you cry vote fraud when the voters reject you

* Remember that kid who always cheated when he was losing at a game? Well, that's the MAGA Republican Party

* SHOW US THE PROOF!

2na fisherman

(383 posts)
14. Normalize False Accusations of Voter Fraud
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:33 PM
13 hrs ago

This is the Republican/MAGA strategy for the midterm elections. Even if they make baseless claims of voter fraud, they think it will be easier to mess with election results so they can challenge the counting of results not in their favor. Major delays in seating elected candidates and the passing of new ballot measures may be the goal. They will always seek to cast doubt on the fairness of elections when they lose. This has the added result of lowering voter turnout as voters lose faith in the process.

senseandsensibility

(25,834 posts)
31. Yes,
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:31 PM
12 hrs ago

people who think this just makes the Rs look bad or no one believes it are missing the point. It's propaganda with all the effects you mentioned.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,279 posts)
15. Should capital punishment be considered as a penalty for outright political lies?
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:34 PM
13 hrs ago

Asking for the survival of our republic.

Dave says

(5,492 posts)
38. No, we are not barbarians
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:24 PM
11 hrs ago

However, life in prison with no possibility of parole might be valid. For "outright political lies" of major significance with measurable consequences.

Figarosmom

(14,155 posts)
16. They are setting up to not swear in
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:43 PM
13 hrs ago

Democratic winners .

I seem to remember the last time they said it was all rigged that many repub voters threw up their hands and didn't bother voting.

Dave says

(5,492 posts)
39. That's what I believe
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:26 PM
11 hrs ago

It will be a dog fight before a Democratic majority in the Senate or House is seated, if they ever are.

2na fisherman

(383 posts)
41. Bush v. Gore Redux
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:37 PM
10 hrs ago

Yes, refuse to seat the Democratic winners and any delay tactics are designed to try and kick decisions up to the courts and ultimately be decided by the pro MAGA Supreme Court. So some pretext like a "hanging chad" or foreign interference will be alleged to have altered the vote counts. So there is a precedent for these kinds of strategies for judicially approved changes of true voter outcomes they don't like.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,356 posts)
19. Comer and his brother supposedly committed property transfer fraud.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:00 PM
13 hrs ago

Comer engaged in complex real estate transactions with his brother, Chad Comer. Critics questioned these land swaps, as well as a $200,000 loan Rep. Comer made to his brother, which was used to purchase additional acreage. But, investigations were quashed.

And yet, without proof of any kind, he accused the Bidens and presented no proof, and now he accuses basically all minorities across the country of election fraud and presents no proof.

MustLoveBeagles

(17,925 posts)
20. Hammer on the fact that they're lying and refute it again and again
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:08 PM
13 hrs ago

Never assume voters are too smart to fall for their lies. Frankly they're not, and it's what got us into this mess.

FakeNoose

(42,758 posts)
22. When Chump says the same thing with impunity (other than Kristen Welker calling him a liar)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:43 PM
12 hrs ago

... then they can all say it too. If they say it enough times back and forth, they'll all start believing it's true.
That's Chump's strategy, and it's pretty much his only strategy.

C Moon

(13,790 posts)
23. When I saw that after the L.A. mayoral primary was lost by Pratt, I KNEW this going to happen in the mid terms.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:55 PM
12 hrs ago

They are using California as a test run.

Mad_Machine76

(25,057 posts)
40. California is the stupidest idea
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:30 PM
11 hrs ago

for a test run. I mean, there are not actually a lot of Republicans in California, so it makes sense that they don't win too often there. What's going to really drive them crazy is when Democrats start winning in red states (although it will be harder for them to make fraud accusations when they control everything).

kentuck

(115,817 posts)
30. Yep. This is their strategy.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:30 PM
12 hrs ago

Otherwise, they would not all be singing the same song at the same time.

kentuck

(115,817 posts)
42. It is interesting that the same guys that promoted the Big Lie in 2020 are doing it again...
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:48 PM
9 hrs ago

Especially MAGA Mike and James Comey.

They need to be called out.

moose65

(3,466 posts)
36. It's easy to tell when it's bullshit
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:09 PM
11 hrs ago

If a real crime was being committed, they wouldn’t be talking about it all over creation and social media. They won’t discuss real crimes, because they could be accused of interference or tampering. That’s why Trump never talks about his assassination attempts.

Karasu

(2,233 posts)
43. Of course. Fraud! Fraudy fraudy fraud! How do we know? "Everyone knows!"
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:12 PM
9 hrs ago

It’s the same shit they’ve been repeating ad nauseam since the beginning of 2025 with DOGE.

Jack Valentino

(5,322 posts)
44. Every time a national Republican 'politician' opens their mouth, it is to spit out a LIE,
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:33 PM
6 hrs ago

and the people at large are beginning to finally "get it" !


If they try to steal the upcoming midterm elections in some manner,
which I expect we will inevitably WIN OVERWHELMINGLY by actual votes---

then I will expect wide-scale RIOTS, and I will do whatever I can to INCITE them---
over the internet!

(although probably not participating personally---
I'm getting OLD and it is getting harder to get me out of the house--
and my personal courage seems to decline the older I get---
but God Bless the young people!!!! )

summer_in_TX

(4,343 posts)
46. Directly saying Rs are lying about voter fraud gets listeners focused on voter fraud.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:44 AM
5 hrs ago

Those who hear that automatically start worrying more about voter fraud. Our talking about it too reinforces their questions.

The far more effective approach is to ask, "Why is Trump/Republicans so afraid of people voting?" Our questions plant the seeds of doubt.

Anything Trump says about “fighting fraud” should only raise the question of why Trump keeps trying to make it harder for people to vote. It will if we focus on those sorts of questions:

Does Trump not want people to vote?
Is he afraid Republicans are going to lose?
Are Republicans protecting him?
Will Trump be impeached if the Republicans lose control of Congress? (He thinks he will be.)
Is he afraid of being held responsible for whatever he is hiding in the Epstein files?
Is Trump going to end up in jail?
Did Trump get caught trying to steal the 2020 election?
Will Trump try to steal the election again?
Does he think he will get caught if he tries?
Is it easier to suppress votes in large quantities than it is to steal them after the fact?
Is that why he is trying to prevent people from voting in the first place?



REFRAMING AMERICA
Why is Trump so Desperate to Keep Us From Voting?
How to reset the agenda of the election debate.
ANTONIA SCATTON
FEB 18, 2026


She says that rather than ignore or deny that election fraud happens our better strategy is:

Our Narrative

Elections in the U.S. are incredibly difficult to steal, and virtually impossible to steal without getting caught. They are run by states and localities, and there are many safeguards in place, but if you have doubts, you should learn more or even sign up to be election workers or observers and help make our elections more secure.

Rather than just avoiding talk about Trump’s attempt to steal elections, we need to make it clear that yes, people do try to steal elections, but they always get caught. Focus on the mechanisms used to safeguard elections, such as that virtually all vote processing happens under the eye of election judges and observers from both parties, and that election results can be and often are verified by hand counts, either of randomly selected precincts or – if necessary – entire elections.
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