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EnergizedLib

(3,167 posts)
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:53 AM 7 hrs ago

'Harris would've been worse!'

That’s a retort I hear when discussing how much things have gone south under the felon.

Okay, show me an alternate universe where a Harris Presidency has 15% unemployment, where gas is $10+ a gallon, more troops are dying in Iran than they did in Vietnam and where late night comedians are being targeted as they are in real life, while social programs are being cut further as she empties that money into her own account as part of unprecedented presidential corruption and I’ll eat my hat and say she would’ve been worse.

Anything short of any or all of that and you’re just saying you couldn’t handle a woman of color in the Oval Office.

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'Harris would've been worse!' (Original Post) EnergizedLib 7 hrs ago OP
Exactly!!! niyad 7 hrs ago #1
I haven't encountered this particular argument, yet. Hugin 7 hrs ago #2
I see it on social media and comments sections EnergizedLib 7 hrs ago #3
I guess the lightning hasn't struck quite everywhere... Hugin 7 hrs ago #5
You just can't fix stupid Grim Chieftain 7 hrs ago #4
I've seen that on other sites too SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #6
It's cope EnergizedLib 7 hrs ago #7
That has to be from a MAGAT, right? mvd 7 hrs ago #8
'Harris would've been worse!' MLWR 6 hrs ago #9
This! calimary 5 hrs ago #20
They can't handle any woman at all ... let alone a woman of color like Kamala Harris FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #10
Exactly popsdenver 5 hrs ago #11
She got more votes FoxNewsSucks 5 hrs ago #24
Joe Biden's odds of winning were not better than Kamala Harris MichMan 1 hr ago #30
Biden's confusion on stage popsdenver 1 min ago #31
AND THIS!!! calimary 5 hrs ago #21
Tunnel vision BeneteauBum 5 hrs ago #12
My response: okay, how so? Please explain exactly how Harris would have been worse, using current events as contrast ms liberty 5 hrs ago #13
Indeed! calimary 5 hrs ago #22
Would you prefer crickets or babbling? Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #26
that's objectively barbtries 5 hrs ago #14
Men in this country are afraid of qualified women - TBF 5 hrs ago #15
So true and very sad Tree Lady 5 hrs ago #17
Would have been worse relogic 5 hrs ago #16
This is total Bullshit videohead5 5 hrs ago #18
This is why Democrats need a fifty state solution. Festivito 5 hrs ago #19
"That's the response I would expect..... lastlib 5 hrs ago #23
Truth: DEI would be preferable to appointing incompetent sycophants Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #25
They believe any woman would've been worse. They can't stand the idea of a woman as commander-in-chief. It's that simple Walleye 4 hrs ago #27
Modern right-wing propaganda is a stupid game, a form of calvinball, if you will. unblock 4 hrs ago #28
Open Borders! Murderers! Rapists! Inflation! Iran Bomb! Etc. ColoringFool 4 hrs ago #29

Hugin

(38,027 posts)
2. I haven't encountered this particular argument, yet.
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:03 AM
7 hrs ago


Before any reply I’d need a long pause to decide whether the speaker belonged in a museum or a freak show.

Hugin

(38,027 posts)
5. I guess the lightning hasn't struck quite everywhere...
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:10 AM
7 hrs ago

Particularly in basements and under rocks.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,069 posts)
6. I've seen that on other sites too
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:13 AM
7 hrs ago

Usually from Magats and Stein supporters, along with the 'lesser of two evils' comment.

MLWR

(1,091 posts)
9. 'Harris would've been worse!'
Tue May 26, 2026, 11:39 AM
6 hrs ago

Only for those whose bigotry, misogyny and racism makes it impossible for them to deal with a Black, female POTUS. For this country and the entire world, she would have been "light years" better.

FakeNoose

(42,520 posts)
10. They can't handle any woman at all ... let alone a woman of color like Kamala Harris
Tue May 26, 2026, 11:41 AM
6 hrs ago

We aren't talking about MAGAs, we're talking about the general US population of independent voters. People who don't usually take sides, and don't take part in the D vs. R screaming matches.

Those are the voters that we need to get on our side if we're ever going to win the White House again.

If Kamala Harris had been male, she would have beaten the snot out of Chump. That's the truth.

And I believe the same about Hillary Clinton, in case you're wondering.

popsdenver

(2,660 posts)
11. Exactly
Tue May 26, 2026, 11:54 AM
5 hrs ago

Regretfully, the independents just weren't voting for a woman, once again. Let alone a Black Woman..........

If the Dems would have been smart, they would have allowed Biden, (a white male) to run again, since his odds were better of winning. Then after becoming president, he could have retired shortly after taking office, and let her take over.......

And don't get me started on Hillary. She was incredibly MORE qualified for the job, than any other candidate in the last 60? years.
The 2016 election was stolen by the NRA, Russian and U.S. Oligarchs Money, the Republican owned/operated Mainstream Media, Corporations, Putin, and election corruption by the Republican Party........

MichMan

(17,432 posts)
30. Joe Biden's odds of winning were not better than Kamala Harris
Tue May 26, 2026, 04:15 PM
1 hr ago

That's why Democrats were pushing for him to withdraw after the debate. They thought if he was replaced their prospects would be much better.

popsdenver

(2,660 posts)
31. Biden's confusion on stage
Tue May 26, 2026, 05:48 PM
1 min ago

Was due to Trump "Gish Galloping" Biden, an old old debate tactic that Bidens preparers should have prepared him for......

google "Gish Gallop" for technique...........

ms liberty

(11,392 posts)
13. My response: okay, how so? Please explain exactly how Harris would have been worse, using current events as contrast
Tue May 26, 2026, 11:57 AM
5 hrs ago

Soul_of_Wit

(153 posts)
26. Would you prefer crickets or babbling?
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:10 PM
4 hrs ago

Those are the two possible "responses" to the debate prompt from MAGA.

barbtries

(31,363 posts)
14. that's objectively
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:00 PM
5 hrs ago

an idiotic statement. ANYONE else would have been better. Harris is actually qualified, and she cares about the people. I just can't.

TBF

(37,281 posts)
15. Men in this country are afraid of qualified women -
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:16 PM
5 hrs ago

Kamala and Hillary were both rejected. Barack Obama was able to get elected because he was male. Definitely there is still racism in this country, but the sexism is even stronger. I have watched it for many decades. I should also add that it's not just men holding women down, it's also conservative women. And that needs to be said (for reference I'm a white woman and I know what I see - I have dealt with them for years in schools, organizations, workforce etc).

Tree Lady

(13,389 posts)
17. So true and very sad
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:22 PM
5 hrs ago

A lot of women think men should be in charge, not just republicans. It’s a very old fashioned idea.

relogic

(274 posts)
16. Would have been worse
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:17 PM
5 hrs ago

Spoken like a true liar. What is worse for them is the disassociation from a reality they can’t handle. Fact- intelligent, racially mixed women put you to shame for your bigoted, misogynistic world view.

The country and current administration is loaded secretly and overtly with these types to the disgust of voters who tried their best to elevate the stature of The Presidency, but were outmaneuvered by a corrupt media apparatus and treasonous party.

videohead5

(3,005 posts)
18. This is total Bullshit
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:25 PM
5 hrs ago

Harris would not have put high tariffs on over 200 countries and drove prices up. She also would not have went to war with Iran. She also would not have given huge tax breaks to the rich and cut Medicaid and SNAP benefits. They are just making lame excuses.

Festivito

(13,925 posts)
19. This is why Democrats need a fifty state solution.
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:27 PM
5 hrs ago

We must let them know why they should vote for democrats. The media will not do it and will very much do the opposite.

lastlib

(28,679 posts)
23. "That's the response I would expect.....
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:40 PM
5 hrs ago

...from a misogynistic, weaseling idiot" would be my likely response. Then watch them try to weasel their way out of the comparison.

Soul_of_Wit

(153 posts)
25. Truth: DEI would be preferable to appointing incompetent sycophants
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:07 PM
4 hrs ago

Both Clinton and Harris would have done far better than DEI hires. They would have attempted to appoint the best. Compare and contrast to the MAGA ideal, which is that you must hire the best possible person in every situation. That RWNJ ideal is a dog whisper for "the best possible white man."

The reality is much worse. The best possible person is (at best) an incompetent sycophant. At worst, it is an alcoholic or grifter or future/past felon. The GOP claim to fame is that their administrations have far more felons, far fewer jobs created, and the biggest, best increases to the national debt. End rant.

Walleye

(45,573 posts)
27. They believe any woman would've been worse. They can't stand the idea of a woman as commander-in-chief. It's that simple
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:11 PM
4 hrs ago

unblock

(56,277 posts)
28. Modern right-wing propaganda is a stupid game, a form of calvinball, if you will.
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:20 PM
4 hrs ago

Calvinball being the game from the Calvin & Hobbes comic strip wherein rules are basically made up as you go.

The modern right-wing propaganda game is simply that the loyal masses have agreed to parrot back the party line with zero critical thinking, and they insist that they win the argument simply by refusing to ever admit that they're wrong. That's the sum total of all debating logic to them.

An earlier form if this was when wrestling (wwe) fans insisted it was real (not staged, scripted, etc) despite obvious evidence such as elite "competitors" turning their backs to their opponents to preen at the crowd, allowing the opponent to get in a "surprise" attack. The game was simply to refuse to agree that it was anything other than an honest competition.

Not an ounce of integrity or merit to their views or positions if they're basically just gaslighting everything.

I could list reasons why Harris (or just about anyone, really) would have been far better, but it's a waste of breath. They're not interested in actual logic, they just enjoy seeing us pissed and annoyed and angry.

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