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gab13by13

(32,840 posts)
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:31 AM 8 hrs ago

I Don't Want Anyone To Tell Me Again That The Price Of Crude Is Set Globally

Brent Crude is up 3%
WTI Crude is down 4%

The US bombed Iran yesterday and Iran threatened to attack US ME military bases, Hormuz is still closed.

The price of gasoline in the US is coming down. The numbers are being manipulated to protect Krasnov.

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I Don't Want Anyone To Tell Me Again That The Price Of Crude Is Set Globally (Original Post) gab13by13 8 hrs ago OP
Who is manipulating them? Fiendish Thingy 8 hrs ago #1
Yes gab13by13 8 hrs ago #2
2024 election Denialism is just as kooky and evidence-free as 2020 election denialism Fiendish Thingy 7 hrs ago #4
I learned to not argue with people whose minds are made up. gab13by13 5 hrs ago #6
Hannah Arendt said it best: Fiendish Thingy 1 hr ago #10
I think it's funny that one of our local gas stations which is a truck stop on the Interstate has gas almost 10 cents a kennedy 8 hrs ago #3
The White House has clearly been engaged in Johonny 1 hr ago #11
if they're buying american oil, mopinko 7 hrs ago #5
I'm simply asking the question gab13by13 5 hrs ago #7
They are 2 different markets DetroitLegalBeagle 3 hrs ago #8
Big Oil CEO's have already enjoyed a maximum return on their investments Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #9

Fiendish Thingy

(24,177 posts)
1. Who is manipulating them?
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:38 AM
8 hrs ago

Is someone arbitrarily lowering the price in the bidding for futures?

Is it a conspiracy amongst the billionaires, one that can overrule the natural fear and greed motivations that generally drive the market?

I have seen no evidence, but then, I also don’t believe the 2024 election was stolen or the assassination attempts were staged.

The stock market, on the other hand, there is plenty of evidence for manipulation and insider trading there.

gab13by13

(32,840 posts)
2. Yes
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:47 AM
8 hrs ago

You underestimate "them."

Statistical anomalies tell me that the 2024 election was stolen. Surges in vote for Krasnov on election day, but only in the battleground states, in no other state defies my logic.

I believe that water is wet, until it isn't.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,177 posts)
4. 2024 election Denialism is just as kooky and evidence-free as 2020 election denialism
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:05 AM
7 hrs ago

The difference being that no Democratic aligned lawyers have been willing to sacrifice their law licenses for such nonsense.

There are other things that are wet besides water.

There is only one statistical anomaly you need to know:

Nine million fewer voters went to the polls in 2024 than in 2020.

gab13by13

(32,840 posts)
6. I learned to not argue with people whose minds are made up.
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:47 PM
5 hrs ago

It's not like Republicans haven't stolen elections before.

Al Gore - won - no reason for Jeb Bush to stop the recount - no reason for the Supreme Court to pick out president

John Kerry - won - the votes from Ohio were diverted to a warehouse in Tennessee and back again. The programmer who did it was on a small plane headed to DC to testify about it when his small plane crashed.

The only nonsense is believing that Republicans don't cheat to win elections.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,177 posts)
10. Hannah Arendt said it best:
Tue May 26, 2026, 04:02 PM
1 hr ago

“If everybody always lies to you, the consequence is not that you believe the lies, but rather that nobody believes anything any longer… And a people that no longer can believe anything cannot make up its mind. It is deprived not only of its capacity to act but also of its capacity to think and to judge. And with such a people you can then do what you please.”– Hannah Arendt

a kennedy

(36,391 posts)
3. I think it's funny that one of our local gas stations which is a truck stop on the Interstate has gas almost 10 cents
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:50 AM
8 hrs ago

cheaper then their gas stations in town. Same company Kwik Trip, but that’s only on weekends they’re cheaper, on Monday, (not Memorial Day Monday), but every other Monday, they’re back at the same price as the in town stations. Weird I’d say.

Johonny

(26,658 posts)
11. The White House has clearly been engaged in
Tue May 26, 2026, 04:26 PM
1 hr ago

Manipulation, dumping, leaking, false deal information on a weekly basis. If there has been insider trading on such information, there has, it isn't likely being investigated by this White House.

Has this kept actual prices down? Not so much. The futures market hasn't been strongly coupled with the actual price of oil for some time now. The assumption is the manipulation will continue...

mopinko

(73,998 posts)
5. if they're buying american oil,
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:45 AM
7 hrs ago

i wd say, yes, there’s plenty of room to manipulate. plus, they’re tacking on some extra profit, cuz they can.
they’re ramping up gas prices based on the price of oil that’s not even in the pipeline yet. all the room in the world to play w numbers.

gab13by13

(32,840 posts)
7. I'm simply asking the question
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:49 PM
5 hrs ago

if the price of crude is set globally, why did Brent crude go up at the same time that WTI went down?

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,529 posts)
8. They are 2 different markets
Tue May 26, 2026, 02:30 PM
3 hrs ago

Brent and WTI are 2 different markets. Overall, they are linked by common market dynamics, but specific ones to each can cause them to deviate from each other. Brent is far more affects by foreign production, like from OPEC, and shipping disruptions. WTI is more affected by domestic production and pipeline disruptions. Also, the timing matters, the contracts on each market expire at different times. They aren't synced.

Justice matters.

(10,100 posts)
9. Big Oil CEO's have already enjoyed a maximum return on their investments
Tue May 26, 2026, 02:44 PM
3 hrs ago

after they donated a billion to the gangster's campaign.

And now that they see their puppet's mismanagement is turning voters against the Rebulicrooks in the polls, they decided to lower the margins at the pump a little in the hopes of not losing the election.

They've had more than enough 'free' cash already since two months.

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