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OGBuzz

(630 posts)
Wed May 20, 2026, 03:43 PM 23 hrs ago

We have all been proper f*cked.

While they were trolling and gaslighting us about the evils of globalism, socialism, and communism they were picking our pockets and assuming total control over everything, now the "tech leaders" pretty much own the planet. Mark Zuckerberg's Meta is building Hyperion, a $200 billion AI Data Center in Louisiana which will be consuming as much energy as all of Manhattan. Elon Musk has a net worth of $850 billion, larger than the GDP of 176 of the world's 195 countries, yet he receives billions in government subsidies.
And I am still trying to figure out what all this AI is for other than surveillance on us all and shit videos all over the internet.
Unfortunately it's too late to reverse what's going on and today's world is not 1789 France.

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We have all been proper f*cked. (Original Post) OGBuzz 23 hrs ago OP
AI sounds like a scam to me Walleye 23 hrs ago #1
It really does PatSeg 22 hrs ago #18
It isn't a scam, and that is the problem. A lot of jobs are being lost because of it, and a lot lostincalifornia 21 hrs ago #21
Blue collar jobs took a major kick in the teeth with the off shoring craze. magicarpet 20 hrs ago #35
Soylent Green FrndStrng 16 hrs ago #44
Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado 7 hrs ago #52
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 1 hr ago #58
People haven't been paying attention JokeHer 7 hrs ago #50
I wish we could get MAGAs to understand that. progressoid 23 hrs ago #2
We may be closer to 1789 France than you imagine. IrishAfricanAmerican 23 hrs ago #3
It's the only logical conclusion. OGBuzz 23 hrs ago #5
A few big EMPs might slow them down. Ilsa 22 hrs ago #12
I'm almost ready to throw a few out there..... lastlib 21 hrs ago #22
In my experience TheProle 22 hrs ago #15
Post removed Post removed 21 hrs ago #25
Did I say surrendering quietly was my solution.... dude? TheProle 21 hrs ago #30
Then what is your solution? paleotn 19 hrs ago #39
Well if we rule out kumbaya and quiet surrender TheProle 15 hrs ago #45
I don't see the oligarch class. 58Sunliner 16 hrs ago #43
Exactly... WarGamer 21 hrs ago #32
Yeah, Wednesdays 20 hrs ago #36
I ain't fetishizing shit, just making an observation. IrishAfricanAmerican 11 hrs ago #46
Ding ding malaise 22 hrs ago #17
How long before... BH liberal 23 hrs ago #4
The AI bros only think in terms of their own life spans.....the rest of us don't count. OGBuzz 23 hrs ago #6
Exactly! And what would be better... BH liberal 23 hrs ago #7
AI will always make the smart decisions if you're out to annihilate mankind. OGBuzz 22 hrs ago #9
Remember what Trump said... BH liberal 22 hrs ago #10
I wonder what he meant by this comment just last week..... OGBuzz 22 hrs ago #14
Like a young child with toy soldiers and guns PatSeg 22 hrs ago #19
More like the Golden Dumb. The Madcap 20 hrs ago #37
is that a real quote? JFC LymphocyteLover 1 hr ago #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Half-step 23 hrs ago #8
Our only hope is that their old nukes aren't worth shit ... they're probably not any good ... FakeNoose 22 hrs ago #11
Never. You're being conned. paleotn 21 hrs ago #27
It may not be 1789 France BWdem4life 22 hrs ago #13
Tech bros are man-shaped machines babydollhead 22 hrs ago #16
AI is taking over for us so they (the morbidly wealthy) can kill us all debsy 21 hrs ago #20
BS paleotn 21 hrs ago #24
The humanoid robots they are developing scare the crap out of me... OGBuzz 21 hrs ago #26
They like air breathers luv2fly 19 hrs ago #40
Heads on spikes are never out of season. paleotn 21 hrs ago #23
Yes I am a defeatist....after all, we couldn't even prevent Trump from winning a second term. OGBuzz 21 hrs ago #28
Words wasted on the wrong people. paleotn 19 hrs ago #38
"Unfortunately it's too late to reverse what's going on", no it is not late, what we need is a good government that Escurumbele 21 hrs ago #29
Seriously. H2O Man 21 hrs ago #31
I agree Greyhead 20 hrs ago #33
I believe it's never too late and the spirit and will to create change and meaningful change will always to just that. somaticexperiencing 20 hrs ago #34
Guillotine tech at least has not changed GenThePerservering 18 hrs ago #41
Viva 1789! GiqueCee 17 hrs ago #42
Message auto-removed Name removed 11 hrs ago #47
France went from a King to Napoleon. Aussie105 10 hrs ago #48
And then... GiqueCee 8 hrs ago #49
"...today's world is not 1789 France." OldBaldy1701E 7 hrs ago #51
It's not too late to reverse RainCaster 5 hrs ago #53
Two comments PATRICK 3 hrs ago #55
Right now, AI is just a big scam & race for the tech boys to show off how much money & influence they have, IMO. CrispyQ 4 hrs ago #54
The AI isn't even for anything Diraven 3 hrs ago #56
We have to hope data centers become obsolete in the near future because they are an ecological nightmare LymphocyteLover 1 hr ago #60
I rec'd this because it's true they are in charge - TBF 2 hrs ago #57

PatSeg

(53,562 posts)
18. It really does
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:20 PM
22 hrs ago

And I afraid that there are all kinds of repercussions that we can't begin to be aware of.

lostincalifornia

(5,538 posts)
21. It isn't a scam, and that is the problem. A lot of jobs are being lost because of it, and a lot
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:30 PM
21 hrs ago

more to come.


magicarpet

(19,422 posts)
35. Blue collar jobs took a major kick in the teeth with the off shoring craze.
Wed May 20, 2026, 06:44 PM
20 hrs ago

Now with Artificial Intelligence and robotics the remainder of blue collar and most of white collar jobs will go bye-bye.

If the bread lines get too long - they can just shoot us - and toss the bodies into a mass grave for eventual burial.

Making America Greater - than it has ever been before.

FrndStrng

(1 post)
44. Soylent Green
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:01 PM
16 hrs ago
toss the bodies into a mass grave


What a waste of good protein as per current FDA food pyramid!

JokeHer

(60 posts)
50. People haven't been paying attention
Thu May 21, 2026, 07:32 AM
7 hrs ago

I’ve thought for years AI would be the collapse of society… it COULD be a useful tool, but in the hands of corporations and billionaire white men, all they see is more money. They want it all. Just six months ago I was seeing articles from CEOs saying not to worry, AI won’t replace jobs. (Yeah right) Now they’re out in the open about it. I predict it will happen in phases. They already have the blueprint. Putting 300 million Americans out of work all at once would cause a revolt - off with their heads. But doing it say, 10 million people at a time will cause chaos. Want to go really sci fi… The corporate overlords will turn us into a complete police state where we are monitored 24/7 by drones and AI technology to keep us in our lane and compliant little slaves. The time to strike is now. These huge data centers they simply must have are all in preparation to completely control us.

lastlib

(28,627 posts)
22. I'm almost ready to throw a few out there.....
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:33 PM
21 hrs ago

It may be the only cure for this cancer--it's metastasizing too rapidly.

Where is our "Goldeneye"??

TheProle

(4,115 posts)
15. In my experience
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:07 PM
22 hrs ago

those who fetishize the French Revolution stopped reading after they gave Louis the chop.

Response to TheProle (Reply #15)

TheProle

(4,115 posts)
30. Did I say surrendering quietly was my solution.... dude?
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:51 PM
21 hrs ago

Can you point to the chart and tell me who is expendable so you can get your pound of flesh from Musk, dude?



https://historyincharts.com/reign-of-terror-executions-by-social-class/

paleotn

(22,748 posts)
39. Then what is your solution?
Wed May 20, 2026, 08:03 PM
19 hrs ago

Gather in a circle and sing kumbaya? We're not doomed to repeat the reign of terror. That's rather shallow thinking, no? But, hey! History in charts.

TheProle

(4,115 posts)
45. Well if we rule out kumbaya and quiet surrender
Wed May 20, 2026, 11:36 PM
15 hrs ago

AND summary execution, I guess we’re out of options.

If only we had some sort of guiding document that could define our rights and remedies and then we could educate enough of our fellow citizens to vote accordingly.

WarGamer

(18,863 posts)
32. Exactly...
Wed May 20, 2026, 06:03 PM
21 hrs ago

The fantasy version of the French Revolution doesn't match up well with reality.

The revolutionaries ended up eating each other and that led to a new dictator, Napoleon.

Not to mention, the dirtbags desecrated French history including raiding the Tombs at Basilique St. Denis and emptying the ashes of 1000 years of Kings on the ground... Martel, Charlemagne... disgusting.

For every USA, there are a dozen France and Russias where the revolutionaries fucked up history.

BH liberal

(165 posts)
4. How long before...
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:05 PM
23 hrs ago

AI becomes Skynet? The Russkies have had a network nicknamed Dead Hand since 1985. It will automatically send the launch signals to missiles if the country's top leaders get killed in a pre-emptive strike.

OGBuzz

(630 posts)
6. The AI bros only think in terms of their own life spans.....the rest of us don't count.
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:15 PM
23 hrs ago

Sam Altman: "AI will most likely lead to the end of the world, but in the meantime there will be great companies created with serious machine learning."

BH liberal

(165 posts)
7. Exactly! And what would be better...
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:22 PM
23 hrs ago

than AI to administer Trump's Golden Dome anti-missile system? What could go wrong?

OGBuzz

(630 posts)
9. AI will always make the smart decisions if you're out to annihilate mankind.
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:33 PM
22 hrs ago

AI models from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google chose to launch nuclear weapons in 95% of simulated war games.

BH liberal

(165 posts)
10. Remember what Trump said...
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:41 PM
22 hrs ago

after he was elected the first time and received his early briefings. "If we have them (nuclear weapons), why can't we use them?"

OGBuzz

(630 posts)
14. I wonder what he meant by this comment just last week.....
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:52 PM
22 hrs ago

Trump stated that if a ceasefire agreement is not reached soon, the world will "just have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran"

Response to BH liberal (Reply #4)

FakeNoose

(42,435 posts)
11. Our only hope is that their old nukes aren't worth shit ... they're probably not any good ...
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:42 PM
22 hrs ago

Probably.

BWdem4life

(3,091 posts)
13. It may not be 1789 France
Wed May 20, 2026, 04:48 PM
22 hrs ago

But maybe someday a year willl be named after this generation.

No pressure cooker can contain continuously increasing pressure indefinitely.

debsy

(1,039 posts)
20. AI is taking over for us so they (the morbidly wealthy) can kill us all
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:28 PM
21 hrs ago

They will have the world to themselves. Until, of course, the AI decides they don’t need the morbidly wealthy.

paleotn

(22,748 posts)
24. BS
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:41 PM
21 hrs ago

You're going down easy? I'm sure as hell not.

Plus, AI is as much a scam as it is substance. Don't be scammed.

OGBuzz

(630 posts)
26. The humanoid robots they are developing scare the crap out of me...
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:44 PM
21 hrs ago

and the 'morbidly wealthy' will turn them on us long before the robots eventually turn on their masters.
And in the meantime I am 100% certain that to a Musk, a Bezos or a Zuckerberg I am just a useless air breather.

luv2fly

(2,711 posts)
40. They like air breathers
Wed May 20, 2026, 08:18 PM
19 hrs ago

"I am 100% certain that to a Musk, a Bezos or a Zuckerberg I am just a useless air breather."

Air breathers are their lifeblood, air breathers pay for Amazon subscriptions, they use Facebook to connect with their "friends," and they drive Teslas.

They don't want to kill you, they want to milk you.

paleotn

(22,748 posts)
23. Heads on spikes are never out of season.
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:40 PM
21 hrs ago

Stop being Debbie Downer and get out there and fight.

God, I hate defeatists.

OGBuzz

(630 posts)
28. Yes I am a defeatist....after all, we couldn't even prevent Trump from winning a second term.
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:51 PM
21 hrs ago

But I will chip in for guillotines when that time comes.

Escurumbele

(4,114 posts)
29. "Unfortunately it's too late to reverse what's going on", no it is not late, what we need is a good government that
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:51 PM
21 hrs ago

will do the right thing to protect its citizens by regulating AI and lots of other things.

Regulations are important, that is how Teddy Roosevelt made this country better, without him steel monopoly would still exist, railroad monopoly as well, food regulations would not exist...All we need is good government, we must vet the people we vote for to make sure the right people are placed in the right sits.

H2O Man

(79,257 posts)
31. Seriously.
Wed May 20, 2026, 05:59 PM
21 hrs ago

It can be changed, though not by way of channeling Eeyore's "what's the use?" philosophy.

34. I believe it's never too late and the spirit and will to create change and meaningful change will always to just that.
Wed May 20, 2026, 06:35 PM
20 hrs ago

Response to GiqueCee (Reply #42)

Aussie105

(8,185 posts)
48. France went from a King to Napoleon.
Thu May 21, 2026, 04:35 AM
10 hrs ago

From one extreme to another.

But France is ok now though, right?

In short, don't expect America after Trump to recover overnight.

GiqueCee

(4,758 posts)
49. And then...
Thu May 21, 2026, 06:44 AM
8 hrs ago

ol' Bony declared himself Emperor!
History has shown us, over the course of centuries, that those who crave dominion over the lives of others – POWER – are the last ones who should have it. No good has ever come of allowing psychopaths to attain high office. Trump has put an exclamation point after that obvious statement of fact! As the old saying goes, those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
We might learn something from the horrific fucking disaster that is Donald Trump... but I doubt it.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,566 posts)
51. "...today's world is not 1789 France."
Thu May 21, 2026, 07:38 AM
7 hrs ago

It would not take much to make it so.

But, I am more hoping for 1776 rather than 1789.

RainCaster

(13,892 posts)
53. It's not too late to reverse
Thu May 21, 2026, 09:34 AM
5 hrs ago

We can stop this shit. In each state we have the power to make these data centers buy their power and water at rates far more than what the rest of us
pay. We can limit them to so much water (restroom needs) and after that, the rates become astronomical.

PATRICK

(12,417 posts)
55. Two comments
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:27 AM
3 hrs ago

First is something I know too little about. The history of Banking suggests they are the infrastructure support for all rulers or revolutionaries. They determine policy, wreck reforms(Socialists in post WWI Germany, bad influence on FDR). Even pariah states embargoed come around to some deal. They serve until crisis wipes some of the little guts out. They rode through 1789 the same way, profited off of Empire and survived.

Second: Napoleon lived in fear as all the French did. Leading revolutionaries had more to fear from each other and literally wiped each other out. The Terror thugs were executed. Few monarchs(incompetent mostly) get decapitated but Napoleon came close before having power and retained home enemies willing to try it again. His European competitors were Emperors. Stability impresses banks. He claimed he really wanted the British model and a gentlemanly retirement as any Prime Minister. Of course, by then he was being held in captivity by his British hosts. He was safer on St. Helena. France went through many unsatisfying pendulum swings right through WWII. The sham of "nobility" declined though the power of money elites continued(from which most crowned "royalty" descends).

Changing the world means changing the power structure of TPTB in mammon matters. This is where anti-human corruption is embedded in infrastructure people vitally need. In the wide picture, people are not all that different in needs and goals that are socially constructive, nor all that different in chaos and mayhem. In the BIG picture the core of our problems remains relatively unscathed, unconfronted, and untouched in the stranglehold of central money abuse. And that money "management" core is allowed to be insanely diseased and all powerful to the point of ignoring planeticide. It is why the GOP is nuts and why the Dems act weak and people shy away from going after the most unaccountable villains.

CrispyQ

(41,108 posts)
54. Right now, AI is just a big scam & race for the tech boys to show off how much money & influence they have, IMO.
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:11 AM
4 hrs ago

Some centers will never be built, & others only partially completed, & others will be vacated a few years after they open, when they drain the aquifers & climate change makes living in the southwest inhospitable for five months of the year. It's a bubble created by & for the tech boys & investors.

Do they really need this many centers to surveille us? Besides shooting off rockets, what kind of scientific interests have these guys shown in projects that would advance humanity? None. This is a boys club, disguised as a science club, with the intent to shut out/cut off everyone they don't like.

They're fascists.

Diraven

(1,952 posts)
56. The AI isn't even for anything
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:57 AM
3 hrs ago

All of it is operating on huge losses, with no plan to become profitable, other than the hope that it will enable some huge breakthrough that will allow them to charge monopoly prices later. It's being kept afloat by investors buying into the hype and cash from the industries that make the AI hardware. Really the only purpose is to make stock holders rich before the Ponzi scheme collapses.

TBF

(37,224 posts)
57. I rec'd this because it's true they are in charge -
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:57 PM
2 hrs ago

but they can also be removed. Always remember the first rule of organizing: there are many more of us than there are of them.

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