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BlueWavePsych

(3,444 posts)
Mon May 18, 2026, 07:34 AM 8 hrs ago

Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers and spending hundreds to learn how to do it - CNBC

A record number of Americans are leaving the U.S.: The country saw a net negative migration of between 10,000 and 295,000 people in 2025, according to research from The Brookings Institution. The widest estimated range was among people who left voluntarily, with Brookings estimating that between 210,000 to 405,000 people did so last year.

It’s the first time in at least 50 years that more people moved out of the country than moved in. Restrictive immigration policies and deportation efforts play a role, according to Brookings. Some U.S. citizens are emigrating for school, work, raising a family, retirement and everything in between.

A majority, 89%, said they want to leave the U.S. for political reasons, according to a sampling of 218 of the weekend’s attendees, per Barnett. Others say they hope to move for adventure and growth (73%), as well as to save money (57%). Roughly two-thirds of respondents hope to move within two years, they have an average monthly budget of $3,856 to work with, and hopeful movers are split among 44% individuals, 39% couples and 17% families with kids.

Conference guests paid between roughly $500 to $1,000 for tickets to the weekend’s events, which included two days of programming from over 50 experts. Guests filtered into dozens of breakout sessions to learn the ins and outs of different visas, taxes as a foreigner, immigrant health insurance, and specifics on how to move to hot spots like Portugal, Mexico, Canada and New Zealand.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/17/americans-are-leaving-the-united-states-in-record-numbers-spending-hundreds-to-learn-how.html

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Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers and spending hundreds to learn how to do it - CNBC (Original Post) BlueWavePsych 8 hrs ago OP
I think millions of others would if they could Johnny2X2X 7 hrs ago #1
Conference guests paid between roughly $500 to $1,000 for tickets to the weekend's events RetiredParatrooper 6 hrs ago #2
I have no use for this n/t Ziggy Beans 6 hrs ago #3
Didn't need a conference. I did my.own research. sinkingfeeling 6 hrs ago #4
I Have a Better Idea Mr.Bee 5 hrs ago #5
We need to stay and fight Easterncedar 5 hrs ago #6
Yep. mn9driver 5 hrs ago #7
My grandparents knew when it was time to go mountain grammy 5 hrs ago #8
my grandparents came here BonnieJW 3 hrs ago #16
My uncle escaped Russia.. he was 6 mountain grammy 2 hrs ago #18
"Spending hundreds" Prairie Gates 5 hrs ago #9
Wonder what the demographics are of those leaving? Wounded Bear 5 hrs ago #10
My daughter is leaving in August AverageOldGuy 5 hrs ago #11
Seems like an attractive option at first SpankMe 4 hrs ago #12
By many accounts, the US is one of the top 5 hardest places to obtain citizenship. Ms. Toad 1 hr ago #20
The Slow Boiling of Frogs 2na fisherman 4 hrs ago #13
Well said misanthrope 3 hrs ago #17
I did it already sdfernando 4 hrs ago #14
Is the US government still letting citizens escape? Farmer-Rick 3 hrs ago #15
That cartoon says it all..a dark time it is. Passages 2 hrs ago #19
It is unlikely I'll leave anytime soon - Ms. Toad 1 hr ago #21
Keep you passport current pfitz59 12 min ago #22

Johnny2X2X

(24,433 posts)
1. I think millions of others would if they could
Mon May 18, 2026, 08:10 AM
7 hrs ago

I am in a better spot than most, but I can't leave family or my career right now. If things don't back on track with our democracy, I will retire out of country though. I'm genuinely fearful for the safety of Democrats if things don't take a turn for the better this Fall.

RetiredParatrooper

(221 posts)
2. Conference guests paid between roughly $500 to $1,000 for tickets to the weekend's events
Mon May 18, 2026, 09:22 AM
6 hrs ago


I smell a grift.

mn9driver

(4,856 posts)
7. Yep.
Mon May 18, 2026, 09:51 AM
5 hrs ago

It’s a good idea to have something in place. If you wait until the need is immediate, it might be too late.

mountain grammy

(29,207 posts)
8. My grandparents knew when it was time to go
Mon May 18, 2026, 10:05 AM
5 hrs ago

they emigrated to America from Poland in 1911. Anti semitism was the reason. my grandfather was a rabbi and a tailor...they saved every penny to get out. My mom was born in the USA. She always said, be aware. Don't ever think it can't happen here, it already has and still is... she learned that being stationed in the south.

I've told my granddaughters.. time to go!

BonnieJW

(3,139 posts)
16. my grandparents came here
Mon May 18, 2026, 12:27 PM
3 hrs ago

from Russia in 1909 for the same reason. My grandfather was a tailor too!

mountain grammy

(29,207 posts)
18. My uncle escaped Russia.. he was 6
Mon May 18, 2026, 12:51 PM
2 hrs ago

He and his two teenage sisters after their parents were killed in a pogrom.

It feels like our people have always been on the run.

Wounded Bear

(64,628 posts)
10. Wonder what the demographics are of those leaving?
Mon May 18, 2026, 10:22 AM
5 hrs ago

Dollar to a donut it's mostly the white folk the MAGAts say they want to be in the majority.

AverageOldGuy

(4,156 posts)
11. My daughter is leaving in August
Mon May 18, 2026, 10:27 AM
5 hrs ago

52, single, law partner, going to Great Britain, not returning.

Spent the last two years researching GB, France, Italy, Canada.

Two other partners in her firm - wife and husband - split for Italy in January, bought house there last Fall.

My wife is very ill - diabetes, heart, kidney failure. I hate to talk like this but when she’s gone and if I’m still mobile, I’m out of here, probably Europe.

SpankMe

(3,758 posts)
12. Seems like an attractive option at first
Mon May 18, 2026, 11:00 AM
4 hrs ago

But, leaving the US because of Trump is like moving to Mars because of overcrowding on Earth.

So much has to be done to Mars to make it livable that it's easier to try and fix our problems on Earth.

Most other countries with similar freedoms and qualities of life to the US are hard to get into for the long term. The US has (until Trump, anyway) a generally easier path to citizenship than these other countries.

When people were fleeing genicodes and literal daily threats to their lives, they could come to America. But as Americans, there's really nowhere else for us to go. This is it. This is the top. The end of the line. There is no more. At this point, we have to stay and fight.

Ms. Toad

(38,817 posts)
20. By many accounts, the US is one of the top 5 hardest places to obtain citizenship.
Mon May 18, 2026, 02:02 PM
1 hr ago

That has been true since I started paying attention to immigration in the 90s.

2na fisherman

(360 posts)
13. The Slow Boiling of Frogs
Mon May 18, 2026, 11:08 AM
4 hrs ago

By the time full-fledged fascism in the form of MAGA becomes the law of this land, it will be too late to leave. We are just beginning to feel it heating up. So if we do not defeat the MAGA forces starting with the 2026 midterm elections, this country will be on a steady decline. And if the Dems take the House and Senate, every bit of what Trump and Trumpism has done must be repudiated and reversed and democracy restored with new legal and institutional guardrails to avoid this kind of thing from repeating. I'm too old to leave the country but a lot of very knowledgeable people have already. This includes a couple of famous professors who wrote books on fascism. It speaks volumes that they decided to leave. I once had an anthropology professor who was fond of stating a basic biological rule. It was, adapt, migrate or perish. So since I'm staying, I'm wondering what fighting back looks like in an age of AI mass surveillance. And the world's greatest military might turned against me. If there is to be another Civil War, it will not be a set piece bunch of battles but a protracted guerilla war of ongoing skirmishes with small arms and improvised weapons used against rockets, aircraft and drones. If blue states form unified militias in solidarity and form alliances with some remaining friendly foreign allies, the outcome might lead to a stalemate and the partitioning of the country like North and South Korea. I feel sorry for the young people who must deal with this bleak future. But what we do now matters so much for its avoidance. Yet, I fear the waves of apathy may defeat democracy if too many can't be bothered to care if their government controls every aspect of their lives and promises them bread and circuses or fast food and video games. They will have already adapted to their surrender without even noticing there was something worth fighting for.

misanthrope

(9,626 posts)
17. Well said
Mon May 18, 2026, 12:34 PM
3 hrs ago
Yet, I fear the waves of apathy may defeat democracy if too many can't be bothered to care if their government controls every aspect of their lives and promises them bread and circuses or fast food and video games. They will have already adapted to their surrender without even noticing there was something worth fighting for.


This part is already achieved. People need to wake up.

sdfernando

(6,108 posts)
14. I did it already
Mon May 18, 2026, 11:17 AM
4 hrs ago

Took early retirement and moved to Spain. It wasn't as easy as you might think......and the spanish consulate in LA "misplaced" my application. Once I got a Spanish immigration lawyer involved, who got the consul general involved I had my visa within two weeks .....but the whole thing caused a 4 month delay in me getting here.

Farmer-Rick

(12,786 posts)
15. Is the US government still letting citizens escape?
Mon May 18, 2026, 12:18 PM
3 hrs ago

The Soviet Union, Putin's Russia and China, especially in the Tibet region learned early that when you institute a brutal fascist dictatorship, you have to put the breaks on emigration. You may hate your own citizens but that doesn't mean you can let them get away from the psychotic abuse you want to inflict.

Ms. Toad

(38,817 posts)
21. It is unlikely I'll leave anytime soon -
Mon May 18, 2026, 02:08 PM
1 hr ago

I have to elderly parents and a spouse to care for. But my daughter and I are in the process of having our Canadian citizenship by descent recognized. (Great grandfather on one side and great& great- grandfather on the other side quality me for citizenship be. Descent under the new supreme Court decision - and Bill C-3.). So once I no longer have to obligations here, I may well move with my daughter.

pfitz59

(12,919 posts)
22. Keep you passport current
Mon May 18, 2026, 03:27 PM
12 min ago

have a stash. get dual citizenship, if eligible. invest in a small apartment or home in your country of choice. learn the language if rusty or illiterate.

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