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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump Canceled Canada's 61-Year Old Colulmbia River Water Treaty -- 40% of U.S. Hydropower at Risk
Donald Trump just walked away from a 61-year-old treaty that quietly powers nearly 40 percent of America's hydroelectricity. And the man on the other side of the table, Canada's new Prime Minister Mark Carney, isn't blinking. He isn't calling. He isn't asking for a do-over. He's letting Washington sit with the consequences. Because what most Americans still don't understand is that the water keeping the lights on across Oregon, Washington State, Idaho, and parts of California doesn't actually start in the United States. It starts in the mountains of British Columbia. And right now, the country that controls those mountains has decided it's done being polite.
B.See
(8,846 posts)ASSHOLE.
Grins
(9,519 posts)It really bothers me when posters put this up as current events.
B.See
(8,846 posts)Because maybe it's news to some.
So do we ignore the s--- that Trump has done because it's old news?
KT2000
(22,217 posts)ETTD!
sakabatou
(46,325 posts)Justice matters.
(10,071 posts)Entitled criminal.
erronis
(24,514 posts)He's just following orders (or the implants in his shrinking amygdala.)
magicarpet
(19,407 posts)The best deal maker at the pigsty.
Oink,... oink
Cha
(320,534 posts)I admire him so much!
Is that going to hurt Washington, Oregon, and parts of California?
Which is what PDO would want.
wnylib
(26,452 posts)CA, WA. and OR.
Cha
(320,534 posts)those 3 Blue States?
TY, wnylib.. I know nothing about this. But I am Concerned for the People there.
wnylib
(26,452 posts)that Newsom will be right on it immediately. The governors might file an emergency petition to hold back the treaty cancelation.
Newsome's reaction.might make him an even stronger Dem leader. He might make Trump wish that he had not poked that hornet's nest. I sure hope so.
Cha
(320,534 posts)Anything happening that wishes PEDO had NOT "Poked the Hornet's Nest"!
TY!
Bev54
(13,517 posts)and there is a damn in Montana that it affects as well. When it comes to electricity it also affects California, Idaho, Wyoming and Utah. It takes 10 years to get out of the agreement and while there was a renewal agreement last year, Trump has paused it. I do know in BC they are not playing with Trump because if he did rip up the agreement it would be the US mostly affected, the electricity from BC could be re-directed to Alberta which would help Carney's plan to electrify Canada on a full grid. The renewal is only on pause right now.
Cha
(320,534 posts)Thank you for explaining that. Good information.
Those Red states should want to fight it, too.
Bev54
(13,517 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,223 posts)If power companies were smart, they would be all over the alternatives like bears on honey.
surfered
(14,261 posts)angrychair
(12,501 posts)is heavily Democratic and this is just revenge. Well, I guess we will just be sitting around in the dark here
wnylib
(26,452 posts)The governors of those states should get together for a solution. Probably will file suits.
Cha
(320,534 posts)previous post. The Govs will have to figure it out.
💔💙 ☮️
My daughter and family live in Oregon, and my grandson and wife live in Seattle.. and friends in CA. And, just everybody.
wnylib
(26,452 posts)Newsom might make Trump wish he had stayed out of this.
Cha
(320,534 posts)And Gov. Ferguson will be excellent partners!!
Amaryllis
(11,425 posts)wnylib
(26,452 posts)JoseBalow
(9,733 posts)He only cares about what takes care of him, and that ain't Big Hydro.
Coolgoober
(398 posts)Are blue states so he doesn't care. He'd rather hurt Canada than help Americans. He'll watch all those states suffer and not give it another thought. Cruelty is the purpose!
GiqueCee
(4,731 posts)... certifiable psychopath. Republicans are too corrupt and chicken shit to do anything about it. May his days end soon.
progree
(13,075 posts)We're quite dependent in Minnesota on Manitoba Hydro's electricity. And I understand so are the northeastern states heavily reliant on Ontario Hydro, Quebec and others (I admit I only watched the first 2 1/2 minutes of the video). Asking for a friend.
mopinko
(73,926 posts)yeah, no.
BidenRocks
(3,486 posts)No chump!
Stargazer99
(3,563 posts)what in the hell is the matter with you Republican idiots? Would you like the reverse done to you? It just shows that your party is not mature enough to take care of this nation by letting a spoiled brat have his temper tantrum and if the Demos get in power again you have set the situation to be used on you...this country will die and you will be responsible
mommymarine2003
(365 posts)I live in Oregon but am a transplanted Washingtonian. I see the Columbia Gorge from my house. The Columbia River is just a couple miles away. The Columbia River is the lifeblood of Washington and Oregon. Trump is too stupid to know that the river begins in Canada, and we needed the treaty to deal with flooding.
dave99
(259 posts)Ilsa
(64,565 posts)Feed him chocolate and cheeseburgers until he strains so hard he has a brain aneurysm?
After the breaking news is announced, I'd prefer to hear "No Secret Service agents were harmed in the making of this international imperative."
dawn5651
(801 posts)vapor2
(4,901 posts)So sick of the lack of ANY accountability and the do nothing repugs
Boo1
(454 posts)like a lot of Youtube political shit is.
It takes 10 years notification to exit.
Because Trump follows all the rules
But you can choose to be a doomer.
Response to Boo1 (Reply #41)
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Torchlight
(7,048 posts)but I get it... sometimes nothing else suits the narrative.
ColoringFool
(1,071 posts)WATER could have been FLOWING DOWN THE COAST so all those slow toilets 10 flushes they need 10 flushes and all those drippy little showers and I LIKE MY SHOWERS could WORK!!!
NOW WATCH as the once great state of California ruined by Democrat ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE gets lots of forest fires again, they still refuse to RAKE THE FORESTS to prevent fires, you know that, right? Fires so nasty and vicious. I think forest fires are Liberals!!!
TURN THE SPIGOTS ON, GOVERNOR NEWSCUM!!
Thank you for your attention to this matter."
Melon
(1,689 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(1,262 posts)coal fired electrical power plants.
Punx
(476 posts)Not to mention Health Care
OMGWTF
(5,213 posts)Martin68
(28,064 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,664 posts)So like it or not the water feeding that basin and EVERYONE who thus benefits from it belongs to BOTH countries and cannot be diverted regardless of Stupid, Ignorant, Greedy, and apparently Mindless Donald, his creepy family and his corrupt enablers.
Simeon Salus
(1,664 posts)Channel is five months old and puts out a video like this every day.
KT2000
(22,217 posts)historical and geographic context
Response to Amaryllis (Original post)
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KT2000
(22,217 posts)Walleye
(45,406 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,223 posts)No electricity means no news and no communication. That seems likely to be the Oligarchs and crooks' wet dream at this point.
Cirsium
(4,107 posts)The title for the video is itself a lie. "Trump Canceled Canada's 61-Year Water Treaty 40% of U.S. Hydropower at Risk!" No, he did not. Donald Trump did not "just walk away from a 61-year-old treaty that quietly powers nearly 40 percent of America's hydroelectricity." The treaty is still in effect. 40% of U.S. hydropower is not at risk, unless Canada turned off that imaginary faucet they have. You know, the one that Trump talks about. Absolutely absurd.
The entire opening of the video is completely irrelevant nonsense. The video is supposedly about the Columbia River. The reporters are talking about water quality in the Great Lakes. At one point, the narrator is talking about the massive amount of tonnage that goes down the Columbia River, while the image is of a container ship going under the Golden Gate Bridge. Completely unrelated clips of Trump are thrown in here and there.
The random stock footage clips, often completely unrelated to the narrative, are pretty hilarious. The whole mess had to have been generated by AI.
Then we are treated to a long segment telling us how expensive it would be and how long it would take to build the power infrastructure necessary to replace that generated by the Columbia river. If what? If the Columbia river disappeared? Hard to say.
The suddenly we are talking about Taiwan. Who knows why? "Trump was in Beijing, sitting across from Xi Jinping, trying to manage another situation where America's economic power depends on systems it doesn't fully control. She reportedly warned Trump directly that mishandling Taiwan could push the relationship between the two countries into what he described as an extremely dangerous place."
Next, this howler: "And it lands harder when you remember that Taiwan produces the advanced semiconductors that run everything from American military hardware to artificial intelligence data centers. Data centers, by the way, that need enormous amounts of electricity. Electricity that in the Pacific Northwest comes from a river system Canada now controls more firmly than at any point in the last 20 years." Huh? Canada does not have firmer control than it did before.
Ten this: "There's also a domestic angle nobody wants to talk about. The Pacific Northwest has been a democratic leaning region for decades. Oregon and Washington reliably vote blue. The governors of both states have already started warning that federal policy is putting their economies at risk. If electricity rates spike, if industrial customers start losing reliability, if Bonneville has to renegotiate contracts under worse terms, the political backlash inside the United States will hit hardest in regions Trump didn't win anyway."
This segment says nothing:
"I want to be clear about something. This isn't a story about whether Trump was right or wrong to renegotiate the treaty. There are legitimate arguments that the Canadian entitlement should have been adjusted. There are legitimate arguments that aspects of the 1964 framework didn't account for modern climate realities. Reasonable people on both sides of the border believed modernization was overdue. The problem isn't that Washington wanted a new deal. The problem is that Washington walked away from the negotiating table thinking Canada would chase after them. Canada didn't, and now America is stuck with the old version of a treaty."
SupportSanity
(1,597 posts)And to make him and his cronies rich. Him first.
But definitely to kill America and Americans.
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