Fetterman to oppose Democratic check on Trump's Iran war powers

[Celerity]

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/nation-world/senator-john-fetterman-to-oppose-democratic-check-on-president-trumps-iran-war-powers-congress-resolution



HUNT VALLEY, Md. (TNND) — Senator John Fetterman (D-Pa.) said Wednesday he will oppose his party’s effort to curb President Donald Trump’s ability to continue the war in Iran.

The lawmaker told Fox News that he will vote against a Democratic war powers resolution, which Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced earlier in the day, next week. The resolution, if approved by legislators, would require Trump to receive congressional approval before continuing the war.

“Now I’m reading that they’re now have to force another, you know, war powers vote. And I will vote against that now because we have to stand our military to allow them to accomplish, you know, the goals of Epic Fury,” Fetterman said, referencing the name of the U.S.’s operations against Iran.

Trump helped start the war by assisting in a fatal Israeli airstrike on ruler Ali Khamenei. The president didn’t receive approval from Congress, which has the sole ability in the U.S. to declare war. Schumer said during his Wednesday press conference that the Senate will vote on curbing Trump’s power next week to reassert congressional authority.

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[BannonsLiver]

1. Fucking pinhead.

[leftstreet]

2. "...you know, the goals of Epic Fury"

omg

He sounds like someone's Gramps in the care center who watches the evening news after Murder She Wrote

Brain damage from stroke is a terrible thing

[Ilikepurple]

25. Yes, Using "Epic Fury" is a tell as if we even needed one.

He’s become I’m less sure it’s from brain damage as much as it is calculated word choice to show not just support for the war in Iran, but trust in the administration’s tactics. Epic Fury sounds so much sexier than war with Iran or even Iranian Conflict. We all get to be part of denouement of Trump’s epic movie narrative, but I real life where the plot is written as we go. The shame is that the media has seen to him being one of the loudest democratic voices nationally. I know breaking with the party is real news, but is that really all he has to offer?

[erronis]

31. Yes. Well stated.

[Maraya1969]

26. I really wonder if he is like this because of the stroke. I don't know a lot about his past but I thought

he was a big old Democrat. I am sorry but he is too stupid now to be a Democrat.

I remember the cognitive problems my mom had after a stroke. She tried to hide them, (like she could not read anymore but would walk around with a book). And it only got worse because more strokes were to come.

[Happy Hoosier]

3. What a piece of shi... NT

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. I saw part of that last night.

He was nothing more than a sock puppet with Hannity's hand up his ass.

Couldn't say enough about supporting tRump and his war, mocked his fellow Democrats. It was sickening.

And we can't even call him what he is because he still has the Sacred D after his name.

[pat_k]

20. Support Democrats applies to elections.

Fetterman is actively opposing fundamental Democratic Party moral principles, undermining "red line" positions of the Democratic Senate, and advancing Republican priorities. As far as I'm concerned, that goes way beyond the sort of policy differences that we respectfully hammer out and debate within the Democratic "family." And I could be wrong, but I suspect if an exception to the "Don't bash Democratic public figures" rule were requested in his case, it might be granted.

When those with D after their names do things like join with Republican's to override the veto of a Democratic governor, a line must be drawn -- as Clayton Anderson did in NC. (Denied turncoat Dems access to Votebuilder, a critical organizing tool normally offered free to all Democratic candidates. All lost primaries by something like 40-50 points.)

Further more, "Support Democrats" is NOT an admonition against criticizing a Democratic elected or mounting a primary challenge to a Democratic elected. It is about supporting Democratic nominees. And of course, there are exceptions to that too. (e.g., NE Democratic Party support for Independent Dan Osborn over MAGA plant running as a Democrat -- if Cindy Burbank somehow fails to win the nomination and drop out to stop the asshole.)

And just a refresher:

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[FoxNewsSucks]

38. I'm very familiar with that rule

and have the hidden posts regarding Manchin/Sinema to verify that is not the case.

They both undermined Biden and the Democratic party. Like Fetterman does. Manchin in particular derailed the BBB. And HB1. And undermined Democratic policy. I never bashed or said anything which could be construed as an ad hominem attack against either. But had they not sided with republicons, we'd have voter protections and infrastructure to run on.

But the rule you posted is subject to the whim of alerters and the "random" selected jury. I do believe that in the past there have been individuals who were targeted for removal or censoring. That's definitely how it feels and it's why I don't post a lot. My liberal opinions apparently aren't compatible with a Democratic website. After posting condemnation of Manchin's vote against BBB, I was told to get on my knees and give thanks for Manchin. Guess whose post was removed.

I'd like it a lot better if the rules, like the one you cite, were clearly defined and enforced by moderators. Not the whims of possibly-manipulative posters.

This shouldn't be needed, but it is -Note to jurors: I'm not "interfering with the jury process". I'm simply giving an honest answer to a reply to my previous post and expressing how I feel based on my experiences.

[LoisB]

5. What else is new? Very petty of me but does he own any adult clothing?

[Celerity]

13. pics

[LoisB]

27. Thanks.He looks so much better in a suit. He actually looks very well put

together.

[gopiscrap]

6. what the fuck is wrong with him

is it stroke brain?

[Baitball Blogger]

7. He's got to be getting compensated for this turn around.

[bluestarone]

8. Fox news lover Fetterman

[Whip-poor-will]

9. Aipac

Follow the money buying his votes

Between him ,Mc Cormack and fitzpatrick "my representatives"Millions donated from aipac from outside our state.

[Eko]

36. Here. Second highest in PA. He has gotten quite a bit. Way more than even Lloyd Smucker our maga rep.

[rainy]

10. Fetterman is an egomaniac who cares about gaining attention for himself but he does not about humanity!!!!

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. Tell me again how he always votes with the Dems when it really matters. Nt

[FHRRK1]

40. A favorite of mine

But he/she votes with Dems 90 percent of the time.

Break down the friggen votes, how many are worthless measures that almost every Senator voted for.

Strip the asshole of every bit of power now. His defection will end up gaining us at least two seats in November from fence sitting voters realizing Dems will actually fight.

[orleans]

12. of course he's opposing it b/c his "fucking nuts" is kicking in again. but i would like him

to explain trump's goals of "epic fury" bullshit that even trump can't explain.

fetterman has the ability to channel donald trump??


"facinating"
-spock (a fictional character on star trek but as real as fetterman's ability to channel anyone)

[MustLoveBeagles]

14. Of course

[hlthe2b]

15. I wish I were surprised. I wish I could comment on all that his announcement likely reflects...

but out of respect to some, the desire to avoid misunderstanding from others, and a desire to avoid the perception that I am attacking an "actual" Dem, I will leave it there.

Sadly, he may well just lose us the chance to take the Senate.

[Vinca]

17. He's got the blood of Iranian schoolgirls on his hands.

[sakabatou]

18. Ugh....

[kimbutgar]

19. He should just change his party to repuke and admit it!

I am so disappointed in him and I hope he loses the next time he is up for re-election or have the people of Pennsylvania demand he retires for medical reasons. The guy ain’t right!

[FHRRK1]

41. He should be kicked out by Dems

Like Sinema, he will never run again, he will take the cash from one term. Like Sinema, he appears to be a lazy ass grifter, far from the Manchin who had more skills and just a small state to scam.

[lapfog_1]

21. Definition of Golem

A golem is an animated, anthropomorphic being in Jewish folklore created from mud or clay to serve as a protector or servant, often brought to life through mystical kabbalistic formulas. Famously associated with Rabbi Loew of 16th-century Prague, the golem serves to protect Jewish communities from persecution, acting as a tireless agent for its creator, yet it can run amok.

[boston bean]

22. Fuck u fetternut.

[republianmushroom]

23. Figures.

[2naSalit]

24. ..........

..... ------- ...... --- ------- ......!!!

[City Lights]

28. Is he in the Epstein files?

[a kennedy]

29. Of course he is.

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[flvegan]

30. He must have gotten this week's insider trading hot sheet. n/t

[angrychair]

32. Is he confused about what it means?

That the War Powers Act is just Congress asserting it's Constitutional authority

[AStern]

33. Why doesn't the GOP get trolls like this?

Why hasn't anyone ran as an ultra-conservative, then vote with the Democrats all the time?

Democrats always get stuck with right wing trolls... like that Platner guy is going to turn out to be.

[617Blue]

34. If he's trying to appeal to MAGA he's going about it the wrong way.

[Ars Longa]

35. I wish there was a recall system to take this jerk out....

I really don't know how he lives with himself, doing this super- blatant bait & switch routine.

[Eko]

37. This might have something to do with it maybe?

[GoodRaisin]

39. Really tiring of him.

[David__77]

42. He's very slavish to Israel.

[Initech]

44. Whatever Netanyahu has on him, it's got to be pretty incriminating.

[Initech]

43. Well I'd like to tell him what he can do with his vote!

[lapucelle]

45. The bandwagon effect was strong, especially with the easily swayed.

Fetterman presented *anti-establishment* which was enough for the vibes supporters. Hopefully voters will pay better attention to a candidate's actual record on the next go-round.

[Celerity]

46. The stroke profoundly changed him from all that I have seen over the past 11 years or so (from when he first ran for

the US in 2015/2016 and lost in the Democratic primary).

If you, for instance, go watch him attacking Trump and Rethugs as a Biden POTUS advocate in 2020 you can see a massive difference between pre-stroke Fetterman and the post-stroke Fetterman.

BTW, that post of mine you put up was from 8 days BEFORE his stroke in May 2022.

Here is some background as to serious changes exhibited by Fetterman (post stroke) as given by Fetterman's former chief of staff Adam Jentleson:

All By Himself

John Fetterman insists he is in good health. But staffers past and present say they no longer recognize the man they once knew.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/john-fetterman-struggle-mental-health-clinical-depression.html

https://archive.ph/0bKU7

When John Fetterman was released from Walter Reed hospital in March 2023, Adam Jentleson, then his chief of staff, was proud of his boss for seeking help for what the senator’s office and his doctor had said was a case of clinical depression. His six weeks of inpatient care had been the latest medical setback for the Pennsylvania Democrat, who had had a stroke mere months before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2022, nearly derailing his campaign against Republican Mehmet Oz. But a year after his release from the hospital, Fetterman’s behavior had so alarmed Jentleson that he resigned his position. In May 2024, he wrote an urgent letter to David Williamson, the medical director of the traumatic-brain-injury and neuropsychiatry unit at Walter Reed, who had overseen Fetterman’s care at the hospital. “I think John is on a bad trajectory and I’m really worried about him,” the email began. If things didn’t change, Jentleson continued, he was concerned Fetterman “won’t be with us for much longer.”

His 1,600-word email came with the subject line “concerns,” and it contained a list of them, from the seemingly mundane (“He eats fast food multiple times a day”) to the scary (“We do not know if he is taking his meds and his behavior frequently suggests he is not”). “We often see the kind of warning signs we discussed,” Jentleson wrote. “Conspiratorial thinking; megalomania (for example, he claims to be the most knowledgeable source on Israel and Gaza around but his sources are just what he reads in the news — he declines most briefings and never reads memos); high highs and low lows; long, rambling, repetitive and self centered monologues; lying in ways that are painfully, awkwardly obvious to everyone in the room.”

Fetterman was, according to Jentleson, avoiding the regular checkups advised by his doctors. He was preoccupied with the social-media platform X, which he’d previously admitted had been a major “accelerant” of his depression. He drove his car so “recklessly,” Jentleson said, that staff refused to ride with him. He had also bought a gun. “He says he has a biometric safe and takes all the necessary precautions, and living where he does I understand the desire for personal protection,” Jentleson wrote, referring to Fetterman’s rough-and-tumble town of Braddock, Pennsylvania. “But this is one of the things you said to flag, so I am flagging.”

Another red flag, Jentleson added: “Every person who was supposed to help him stay on his recovery plan has been pushed out.” Fetterman was isolated, had “damaged personal relationships,” and was shedding staff. The turmoil in his office continued over the following year. Since winning election in 2022, he has lost his closest advisers, including three of his top spokespeople, his legislative director, and Jentleson. His circle of trust has shrunk, and people I spoke with made it clear that they expect more staffers to depart.

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[SocialDemocrat61]

47. Give him the Joe Lieberman award for

Republicans favorite democrat.