Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon

[Arazi]

…which is why we’re incentivizing their development of a nuclear weapon.

Seriously, this is the lesson the world is learning. The US will fuck you up unless you have nukes

[Beartracks]

1. Obama's diplomatic deal was much stronger, had teeth, and was having positive results.

[Bread and Circuses]

2. Note to world : build nuclear weapons ASAP

[fujiyamasan]

4. North Korea learned that quick

[COL Mustard]

8. I just hope we don't find out the hard way...

That Iran has nukes and surprises us all.

[fujiyamasan]

11. I doubt they could have kept it secret all this time

there have been no detected tests by the CIA. Iran would have performed them by now for deterrence. That also would have been used by Israel for propaganda.

Iran knew its military was severely outmatched by not just the US (that’s a given), but Israel alone. I think that’s why they have been attempting to negotiate an off ramp for years, even when they kept getting hit by Israel. The retaliatory strikes up until now have been mostly symbolic. If they could have hit back harder, they likely would have. I think Israel has been testing Iran’s defenses for years now, and realized it was mostly a joke.

It was always a paper tiger, except for its terrorist proxies and oil.

That said, this was not our fight. And if this was about regime change, this was up to Iranians to take over their government and have to satisfaction of taking out the ayatollah. Who knows where this leads. Bibi has wanted this for years. We’re just an Israeli mercenary wing, yet we don’t even get paid. We pay them.

[flashman13]

13. One thing we have proved over and over again is that we underestimate our adversaries.

Japan, Vietnam, and Iraq immediately come to mind. Those were all very costly mistakes.

[PCIntern]

15. "Used by Israel for propaganda "

Israel is one nuclear catastrophe away from extinction- which apparently would please many many individuals.

They’re not gonna let it happen no matter what. Never again.

[fujiyamasan]

16. Israel is fully capable of defending themselves

Tired of using my tax money to fund their baby killing machine.

[PCIntern]

22. Yeah...

You see, since the founding of their nation, Israel was held to a higher standard than any other nation in the world. Anytime they were in a position to annihilate an invading army, they were told to stop and in the name of humanity, to show mercy. They would release hundreds of terrorists to retrieve one Israeli citizen.

And then it happened. The invasion of 10/7 with the horrors. That was it. No more. Done with humanity. They showed these Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists what’s gonna happen - and you know what? It worked. They wiped out that entire movement which was poised on their borders to inflict horrors which were comparable to those of the Nazis. Remember “Never Again”? Now they mean it.

Child killers? The Israelis watched their children being disembowled while alive and screaming in agony beyond that which you will ever care to comprehend. Now, the terrorists will think twice before commencing any operation like that. No mercy. Just like them.

[questionseverything]

25. The government of Israel ignored their own guards warnings over and over

Lihop

[PCIntern]

27. They made the decision

that they were going to show Hamas what torture and death was, just like Hamas SWORE to do to the Jews.

So it was ok to do it or threaten to do it to Jews but not the other way around? Those days are over.

[questionseverything]

28. So you are saying, Israel allowed Hamas to plan and execute their attack so they could counter attack?

Isreal has been accused of that many times but I haven’t seen anyone admit it, not alone brag about it

[PCIntern]

29. Where the eff did you get that?

Welcome to “ignore”.

[Tasmanian Devil]

3. Defense

Ukraine, Iran, Iraq and Libya are all examples of countries that should have had nukes to defend themselves against invasions by the rogue nations of the world.

You can probably think of others.

[Bread and Circuses]

5. Agree. I know it's madness.

But we see that Imperial Powers will continue to attack and manipulate non-nuclear powers.

This world is a hell hole.

[MadameButterfly]

17. Ukraine had nukes and gave them up in return for a promise

that the US and the West would protect it from invasions. We see how that went.

[Tasmanian Devil]

20. Budapest Memorandum

Not just the west, Russia was part of the agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

[MadameButterfly]

21. I didn't know Belarus was party to it.

They are pretty much controlled by Russia now. You don't always need an invading army, just control the "president" and support him in suppressing democracy.

Of course, Yeltsin was trying to pursue democracy in Russia. Russia itself has been taken over.

All lessons for the world to arm itself instead of make peace.

[Srkdqltr]

6. Neither should any other country.

Who is anyone to tell someone they can't have something?
No one should have nukes. No group of people are capable of not using what they have.

[Initech]

7. And neither should we.

Especially with the Murdoch approved criminal cabal at the helm, what could possibly go wrong?

[MadameButterfly]

19. Yes, it has become dangerous to the world that the US has nukes

since we've elected a mentally ill leader. We have shown we can't guarantee to responsibly manage our own nukes.

[Aussie105]

9. Strange how America carries out undeclared war aggression on other countries . . .

but only ones that are militarily weaker or have no nukes?

Incentive to develop some nukes that can be pointed at America!
Or have a bigger army than America, like China.

"We need nukes for our safety!" must be a common thought amongst leaders around the world.

[dalton99a]

10. Every nation is entitled to self-defense, including a credible deterrent.

It's a shame Japan, Taiwan and South Korea don't have nuclear weapons. They live in fear of China/North Korea and depend on the U.S. for protection.

[MadameButterfly]

18. This credible deterrent also is a blank check to invade other countries

The world would not have tolerated Russia invading Ukraine if they couldn't threaten us with nukes. Biden would not have been so slow and careful about sending Ukraine help. It's clear Russia's army was overrated and a serious NATO response could have overpowered them before so much damage was done.

[roamer65]

12. Canada should develop tactical nukes.

That would stop the 51st state bullshit.

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[NNadir]

14. Nuclear is always evoked to justify fossil fuel driven wars.

[diane in sf]

23. Neither must tRump.

[Melon]

24. The lesson is just as easily that we can't touch you with nukes.

So if you are religious zealots who believe in martyrdom, who’ve also threaten to use nukes if they get them, that the someone will make sure that doesn’t happened.

I don’t support war. I don’t support trump. I don’t support Iran and believe they are a disaster unless they completely change their course.

[Whip-poor-will]

26. support Iran

And I don't think Iranians support your country either