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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do people say "nucular" instead of "nuclear"? Did they never learn proper pronunciation?
I just watched a short news report from a Utah news channel about a reactor the government is installing in the state being flown in and that is what the reporter said. Seems wrong in my perspective on the English language as I learned it...Doesn't really matter but it irks me. Whine over for now...
Tasmanian Devil
(91 posts)Yeah, I avoid saying nuclear because ... unless I really think about it in advance ... it comes out nucular. I don't know why, it's just a brain mis-wiring of some sort when I learned the word I guess.
It drives my wife crazy, my kids think it's funny, and I'm slowly getting better at it. But I think it might be another 10 or 20 years before it's natural for me to say it correctly. Maybe there's some exercises I could do
It's about the only thing I have in common with "W" ... he says it wrong most of the time as well.
PatSeg
(52,712 posts)and I just have to assume that was the way that I heard it growing up. It wasn't until people made fun of Bush that I realized I was pronouncing it wrong. I've made a conscious effort since then to say it correctly.
Polly Hennessey
(8,721 posts)This means I avoid saying the word. It hurts my feelings when people pounce on me for being such a grammar dummy.
iemanja
(57,661 posts)That is how language is acquired.
When a critical mass pronounces a word a certain way, that becomes the pronunciation.
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William Seger
(12,320 posts)dpibel
(3,837 posts)Drives me as nuts as it does you, but there you have it.
No idea how it got started.
Munu
(167 posts)It's just a dialect difference. I don't see why people make such a big deal out of it.
Brother Buzz
(39,756 posts)I never knew if it was the U.S. Navy nuclear engineer or the Georgia peanut grower talking.
Easterncedar
(5,899 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,756 posts)I encountered a Georgia mechanical engineer who pronounced oil as one syllable word, but Ill be damned if I know how he did it.
Polybius
(21,673 posts)My dad pronounced oil as earl.
3catwoman3
(29,024 posts)had an earl boiner (oil burner) in his basement.
Jersey Devil
(10,800 posts)x
Skittles
(170,421 posts)but have no problem pronouncing other OI words (for example, coil doesn't become CALL)
Brother Buzz
(39,756 posts)We were discussing lubricants for old machines, and at one point, he dropped whale. Whale? I thought he was talking about sperm oil, once a valued fine light lubricating oil. But then it hit me, he way saying way oil.
generalbetrayus
(1,649 posts)Easterncedar
(5,899 posts)Why has gifted replaced given? When did mitten and gotten become mien and gah en? Where did the first N in government disappear to? And the second one in environment?
No, sorry, must stop, breathe, go to sleep. The world has bigger problems. (I will, however, be grinding my teeth over nukyular for a while, too.) good night!
róisín_dubh
(12,284 posts)Influencer-speak 🤮
tblue37
(68,367 posts)or into as difficult configurations.
Try the two different pronunciations next to each other, to see how much more work the proper pronunciation is. And since that is so, there are so many people saying it the wrong way, that people saying "nucular" have their pronunciation pretty consistently reinforced, as well.
FascismIsDeath
(113 posts)Skittles
(170,421 posts)that ain't no accent, that is mispronounced - there is a difference
I know, I live in Texas and not everyone sounds like an idiot.
FascismIsDeath
(113 posts)Regional accents and pronouncing things incorrectly go hand in hand in certain cases. I grew up in WV and its definitely a thing. That's just common knowledge even if you consider that anecdotal experience is virtually worthless.
Skittles
(170,421 posts)I know the difference between regional accents and mispronunciations
over and out
róisín_dubh
(12,284 posts)Its pronounced incorrectly.
Its not like when my mother says Jennifah instead of Jennifer, or I say aluminum but Brits say aluminium: thats a difference in accent (first one) and spelling (second one).
FascismIsDeath
(113 posts)I grew up in Appalachia. Pronouncing things "incorrectly" is very much part of certain accents.
eShirl
(20,161 posts)lamp_shade
(15,424 posts)Easterncedar
(5,899 posts)Diamond_Dog
(40,171 posts)GAH!!
lamp_shade
(15,424 posts)Diamond_Dog
(40,171 posts)Drives me crazy. I always tell him its a good thing he taught math and not English!
Polybius
(21,673 posts)We now know it's pronounced wrong, but since we've been doing it for so long, we're sticking to it.
Skittles
(170,421 posts)they just say what they hear others say
Easterncedar
(5,899 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,286 posts)And, her brother was a realtor!
She changed the way she said when she knew it bugged me. She's an educated woman
She shouldn't mispronounce a simple word. She just didn't care until she knew I did.
Joinfortmill
(20,602 posts)From Merriam-Webster
According to Merriam-Webster, "jewelry" is primarily pronounced in the US as JOO-ul-ree (
) or JOOL-ree (
), often with three syllables, but two is acceptable. The key is to start with "jewel," followed by "-ree," avoiding the common mispronunciation that rhymes with "foolery".
hlthe2b
(113,334 posts)long enough, it starts to stick. Hell after Bush* Merriam Webster added "nucular" as an alternate pronunciation.
It is among the most jarring mispronunciations for me, though there are others.
Right now it is the attractive woman on the Metamucil commercials with the Golden Retriever ('love the dog) who claims to be a gastroenterologist, yet she pronounces it "gas-tren-tol-ogist"... If I could not pronounce my own medical specialty, I surely would not on tv to show my own ignorance. It is grating as hell to me. Most of the public says "vet-in-air-ee-an" for veterinarian, but I have yet to hear many actual veterinarians drop all the syllables. Go figure.
tavernier
(14,398 posts)no_hypocrisy
(54,647 posts)Warshington instead of Washington
"Pahk yah cah" for "park your car".
"Chow-dah" for chowder
"Nuclar" is just one example.
Mariana
(15,615 posts)There are people from all over the country (and the world) who mispronounce it that way.
GreenWave
(12,499 posts)The first one was where he lived, the rest ???
Bettie
(19,496 posts)every time.
My three sons pronounce it correctly, becasue I made sure they do.
Now, they cringe when others say it wrong as well.
And it irks me as well.
Dulcinea
(9,905 posts)Nucular, IN-surance, etc. are all characteristic of Southern speech. Most areas of the nation have something like this. Pittsburgh, where I grew up, has plenty of local words & pronunciations.
Mariana
(15,615 posts)There are people from all over the country - and the world - who mispronounce it that way.
ProfessorGAC
(76,286 posts)...and I do too, I do agree on regional pronunciation differences.
I'll add one that bugs me (personal interest); GIT-ar, instead of gi-TAR.
I live in NE Illinois and I've never heard anyone from around here pronounce it with the accent on the first syllable. But, I've heard it down south.
Soul_of_Wit
(58 posts)...in the phrase Stevie Git-tar Miller. I may have been a teenager in the '70s.
MichMan
(16,928 posts)Vinca
(53,632 posts)J_William_Ryan
(3,426 posts)Only two syllables.
Doodley
(11,797 posts)valleyrogue
(2,644 posts)Or misuse "less" when they mean "fewer."
Both of those are pet peeves of mine.
Jacson6
(1,855 posts)Emile
(41,584 posts)It worked, lol.
Johnny2X2X
(23,897 posts)For Bush, I think he did it to sound more folksy. And today, those on the Right who say it, do so to be anti educated.
Nuclear technology seems complicated and the luddites in the GOP consider anything complicated to be the educated elite. Notice how Trump throws it into speeches often because he had an uncle who was an engineer. It's an appeal to expertise fallacy. "My uncle did this job that you don't understand, so I'm smart..." Trump's uncle was actually an electrical engineer who taught at MIT and did write about nuclear physics and founded a company that worked on nuclear medical technology. His business collapsed when the government cut his funding.
But at its core to this brand of fascists in charge right now, it means, "leave the complicated stuff to us, we get it, and we'll handle it for you. Don't let those educated elite libs tell you how to pronounce words."
Ilsa
(64,090 posts)named George W Bush who grew up in Texas and wherever his prep school was (and Kennebunkport) said "nukuler" all the time. I suspect he just had lazy speech. It used to drive me crazy.
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Orrex
(66,861 posts)Can't recall if he did the same in Superman: The Movie.
odins folly
(571 posts)Had a guy who was higher on the food chain than me so I wasnt about to card him on it, but I told my boss that if he could make up words so could I. I made up espifically
She about spit out a mouthful of coffee during a morning briefing when I said Ive been looking at the training numbers by manager and some, espifically, the overnight teams need to do more during down times
.
No one else batted an eye
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fujiyamasan
(1,455 posts)Yeah, it drives me a bit nuts but Im not an ass hole to call him out over it. Were from the Midwest for what its worth.
maxsolomon
(38,448 posts)People are so lacksadaisical in the pronunciations!
Ilsa
(64,090 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,602 posts)yorkster
(3,736 posts)I know. I heard it on the teevee as a kid.
Torchlight
(6,591 posts)Kinda makes me want to see that person taken away in an Ahmbulance. But I've go too many hard-baked, Texas-long drawl mispronunciations I use regularly, so I'm in no real position.
Traildogbob
(12,817 posts)Spelling the differences. I remember the hollering over W saying it wrong and I could not tell how it was wrongly pronounced and got paranoid about how I said it. I never said it too much, but not many instances I needed to say the word. Until now, with this asshole, we have to say it frequently, and fearfully.
Soul_of_Wit
(58 posts)ColoringFool
(468 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,827 posts)Are loose vs lose and mute vs moot.