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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIgnoring Epstein leads, Trump DOJ tries and fails to indict six Dems for reciting the law
Lawrence was great last night on this issue
@lawrenceodonnell.bsky.social: Ignoring Epstein leads, Trump DOJ tries and fails to indict six Dems for reciting the law youtu.be/5n4L12XUKas?...
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Ignoring Epstein leads, Trump DOJ tries and fails to indict six Dems for reciting the law (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
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MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy
LetMyPeopleVote
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No grand jurors found the Trump DOJ met low probable cause threshold in failed indictment of Democratic lawmakers
LetMyPeopleVote
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GreenWave
(12,487 posts)1. They lied about Dems weaponing the government when they are the perps,
gab13by13
(31,674 posts)2. Sounds like Jeanine Pirro was involved,
She is going to have to drink more.
LetMyPeopleVote
(177,003 posts)3. MaddowBlog-Dems enraged after Trump's DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy
If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence
they have another thing coming, one Democrat said.
Dems enraged after Trumpâs DOJ targeted veterans with charges of seditious conspiracy - MS NOW
— (@oc88.bsky.social) 2026-02-11T16:55:16.817Z
apple.news/AwXl5tcTUQx2...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/dems-enraged-after-trumps-doj-targeted-veterans-with-charges-of-seditious-conspiracy
In legal circles, its known as no bill. Thats the label used to describe what happens when prosecutors go to a grand jury to secure an indictment and jury members reject the effort.
If it seems as if the phrase has been coming up more frequently in recent months, its not your imagination. Donald Trumps Justice Department has run into no bill setbacks repeatedly of late, in cases ranging from former FBI Director James Comey to New York Attorney General Letitia James to Sean Dunn (better known as the sandwich guy).
The latest example, however, is arguably the most dramatic: MS NOW reported that a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has declined to indict at least two Democratic senators Arizonas Mark Kelly and Michigans Elissa Slotkin on charges of seditious conspiracy......
Thats precisely what happened. As The New York Times summarized:
Thats certainly correct, though Id add that its also remarkable to note the crime that Trumps DOJ accused the Democratic lawmakers of committing: Seditious conspiracy is a serious felony charge thats rarely pursued. The idea that members of Congress crossed that line, and effectively conspired to undermine the authority of the government by reminding service members to follow the law and reject illegal orders, is insane......
Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, a decorated Army veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was even more candid. If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence, and theyre going to go after political opponents and get us to back down, they have another thing coming, Crow said. The tide is turning.
As for the partys leadership, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also unreserved, declaring in a written statement: The Grand Jury upheld and honored the Constitution, doing what Donald Trump and his corrupt Republican sycophants lack the character to do. The attempt to indict Members of Congress for exercising their constitutionally-protected First Amendment rights is another shameful example of the cancerous rot that engulfs the Trump administration.
The New York Democrat concluded, Donald Trump, Jeanine Pirro and the corrupt political hacks at the Department of Justice will not silence or intimidate us. Every attempt to weaponize the criminal justice system will only strengthen our resolve as we work to end the National nightmare that extreme MAGA Republicans are inflicting on the country. They will all be held accountable for their lawlessness.
If it seems as if the phrase has been coming up more frequently in recent months, its not your imagination. Donald Trumps Justice Department has run into no bill setbacks repeatedly of late, in cases ranging from former FBI Director James Comey to New York Attorney General Letitia James to Sean Dunn (better known as the sandwich guy).
The latest example, however, is arguably the most dramatic: MS NOW reported that a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., has declined to indict at least two Democratic senators Arizonas Mark Kelly and Michigans Elissa Slotkin on charges of seditious conspiracy......
Thats precisely what happened. As The New York Times summarized:
It was remarkable that the U.S. attorneys office in Washington led by Jeanine Pirro, a longtime ally of Mr. Trumps authorized prosecutors to go into a grand jury and ask for an indictment. But it was even more remarkable that a group of ordinary citizens sitting on the grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington forcefully rejected Mr. Trumps bid to label their expression of dissent as a criminal act warranting prosecution.
Thats certainly correct, though Id add that its also remarkable to note the crime that Trumps DOJ accused the Democratic lawmakers of committing: Seditious conspiracy is a serious felony charge thats rarely pursued. The idea that members of Congress crossed that line, and effectively conspired to undermine the authority of the government by reminding service members to follow the law and reject illegal orders, is insane......
Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, a decorated Army veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, was even more candid. If these fers think that theyre going to intimidate us and threaten and bully me into silence, and theyre going to go after political opponents and get us to back down, they have another thing coming, Crow said. The tide is turning.
As for the partys leadership, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries was also unreserved, declaring in a written statement: The Grand Jury upheld and honored the Constitution, doing what Donald Trump and his corrupt Republican sycophants lack the character to do. The attempt to indict Members of Congress for exercising their constitutionally-protected First Amendment rights is another shameful example of the cancerous rot that engulfs the Trump administration.
The New York Democrat concluded, Donald Trump, Jeanine Pirro and the corrupt political hacks at the Department of Justice will not silence or intimidate us. Every attempt to weaponize the criminal justice system will only strengthen our resolve as we work to end the National nightmare that extreme MAGA Republicans are inflicting on the country. They will all be held accountable for their lawlessness.
LetMyPeopleVote
(177,003 posts)4. No grand jurors found the Trump DOJ met low probable cause threshold in failed indictment of Democratic lawmakers
The DOJ could not get even one of the 23 grand jurors to agree to indict this "ham sandwich" of a case.
No grand jurors found the Trump DOJ met low probable cause threshold in failed indictment of Democratic lawmakers
— Ryan J. Reilly âpaints a vivid and urgent portrait of⦠disarrayâ (@ryanjreilly.com) 2026-02-11T15:46:05.188Z
www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-bondi-epstein-congress-netanyahu-iran-dhs-ice-poll-live-updates-rcna257992#rcrd99859
None of the D.C. grand jurors who heard the Trump administrations pitch on why they should indict Democratic lawmakers over a video urging members of the military and intelligence communities to uphold their oaths believed the Justice Department had met the low threshold of probable cause, two sources familiar with the matter told NBC News.
Its exceedingly rare for a federal grand jury to reject prosecutors attempts to secure an indictment, since the process is stacked in the governments favor. Federal grand juries need a minimum of 16 members to have a quorum, and they max out at 23 members. Just 12 grand jurors need to agree that the government had probable cause to indict, a threshold much lower than the unanimous beyond a reasonable doubt standard that a petit jury needs to convict.
In 2016, the Justice Department investigated more than 151,000 suspects, but grand juries returned just six no bills, per DOJ statistics. The vast majority of assistant U.S. attorneys will go their entire careers without being rejected by a grand jury like this. As NBC News previously reported, the lawyers who attempted to bring the case are political appointees, not career prosecutors.
Its unclear if the office of U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jeanine Pirro will push forward and try to indict the Democratic members again.
Its exceedingly rare for a federal grand jury to reject prosecutors attempts to secure an indictment, since the process is stacked in the governments favor. Federal grand juries need a minimum of 16 members to have a quorum, and they max out at 23 members. Just 12 grand jurors need to agree that the government had probable cause to indict, a threshold much lower than the unanimous beyond a reasonable doubt standard that a petit jury needs to convict.
In 2016, the Justice Department investigated more than 151,000 suspects, but grand juries returned just six no bills, per DOJ statistics. The vast majority of assistant U.S. attorneys will go their entire careers without being rejected by a grand jury like this. As NBC News previously reported, the lawyers who attempted to bring the case are political appointees, not career prosecutors.
Its unclear if the office of U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Jeanine Pirro will push forward and try to indict the Democratic members again.
