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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Your Honor, I rest my case. This was outright murder of an American citizen."

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"Your Honor, I rest my case. This was outright murder of an American citizen." (Original Post)
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mahatmakanejeeves
(68,249 posts)1. Blue Georgia is omitting the remainder of that passage.
Last edited Fri Jan 9, 2026, 07:42 AM - Edit history (2)
The defense gets to have a say in the trial too. It will raise a point that Blue Georgia does not.
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Politics & Policy
What DHS' own rules say on the deadly ICE shooting in Minneapolis
Brittany Gibson
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Zoom in: A DHS "Use of Force" policy memo from 2018 explains the department's procedures in more detail.
Law enforcement officers (LEO) can use deadly force when they have "a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the LEO or to another person."
"Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject," the memo says. The guidance allows deadly force when: A) The person in the vehicle is "using or imminently threatening deadly force by means other than the vehicle"; or B) The vehicle is being driven in a way that's an immediate threat and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists."
"DHS LEOs are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle," according to the memo, except in justified deadly force situations.
{snip}
Politics & Policy
What DHS' own rules say on the deadly ICE shooting in Minneapolis
Brittany Gibson
{snip}
Zoom in: A DHS "Use of Force" policy memo from 2018 explains the department's procedures in more detail.
Law enforcement officers (LEO) can use deadly force when they have "a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to the LEO or to another person."
"Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject," the memo says. The guidance allows deadly force when: A) The person in the vehicle is "using or imminently threatening deadly force by means other than the vehicle"; or B) The vehicle is being driven in a way that's an immediate threat and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists."
"DHS LEOs are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle," according to the memo, except in justified deadly force situations.
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That might not be the whole story either. DHS updated the policy in 2023, two years before Trump started his second term. In 2023, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, Stephen Miller, et al. were people you could safely ignore. Here is the existing policy on the use of force:
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2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
The Department of Homeland Securitys (DHS) Use of Force Policy as required by executive policy standards to Advance Effective, Accountable Policing and Strengthen Public Safety to meet or exceed the Department of Justice guidance on use of force. This policy was crafted as a result of discussions with stakeholders across the Department as well as major national labor organizations to further refine processes to ensure the safety of law enforcement personnel and the communities we serve. This is the first update of the Departments Use of Force policies since 2018.
Attachment 02/07/2023
2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
The Department of Homeland Securitys (DHS) Use of Force Policy as required by executive policy standards to Advance Effective, Accountable Policing and Strengthen Public Safety to meet or exceed the Department of Justice guidance on use of force. This policy was crafted as a result of discussions with stakeholders across the Department as well as major national labor organizations to further refine processes to ensure the safety of law enforcement personnel and the communities we serve. This is the first update of the Departments Use of Force policies since 2018.
Attachment 02/07/2023
2023 Update to the Department Policy on Use of Force
Dave Id
(241 posts)2. DHS vs Movies
Well that's how it's done in the movies, so why can't they murder someone driving AWAY from them is not a threat to themselves? Arrest and charge the DHS mobster with murder.
Ray Bruns
(5,985 posts)3. The defense's rebuttal.
