What is stopping Keith Ellison and Tim Walz from sending MN State Police to the shooter's...

[NNguyenMD]

House and placing him in cuffs and yes, causing an open spectacle to show that they are not afraid of the Federal Gestapo.

This man committed murder. Murder! This is why Dems polling is in the toilet, fucking do something god damnit

[Brother Buzz]

1. My Magic 8 Ball says he's far, far away from frozen Minnesota, drinking umbrella drinks

[FBaggins]

2. It's unlikely what he lives in MN and the FBI isn't sharing with local law enforcement

[yellow dahlia]

3. He lives in St. Paul, I believe.

[tblue37]

4. I actually have his address & phone number, but we don't dox people on DU.

[yellow dahlia]

5. We ARE better than them.

[orangecrush]

23. Forgive me, but

I don't want to be "better" than them anymore.

[yellow dahlia]

30. Your point is a valid one. We are in place on unbalance.

I don't like the hate I feel.

I envision certain people falling overboard...and I don't reach for a life preserver. Unlike my prior protective Pollyanna nature.

[orangecrush]

32. Thanks for your understanding.

Two "Weaponized Vehicle" shootings in two days

This is going to get much worse, and it is calculated.

[yellow dahlia]

33. They are instigating...clearly.

I suspect they are trying to get to martial law.

[orangecrush]

34. I suspect you are correct

[lastlib]

37. And it is imperative that we not...

give the goons an excuse to go "Kent State" on us.

[yellow dahlia]

40. They want to...we know it.

We do need to be alert and strategic.

[Maru Kitteh]

44. "Go" Kent State? WE ARE THERE. We've been here, but "Oops! Shot a WHITE lady.

And that is why, now, there is finally awareness.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. You can't "dox" a public employee.

[paleotn]

17. Then he's already doxed.

Drive the bastard into oblivion. Make his life a living hell. He deserves far worse.

[iemanja]

41. I read something that said he lives in

NE Minneapolis.

[leftstreet]

6. DURec

[wackadoo wabbit]

8. Because that would be the metaphorical equivalent of . . .

that first shot at Lexington. (Yes, I know, this was the start of the American Revolution, but I can't think of an equivalent incident for the Civil War. I welcome any input from history buffs here.)

Does Wahl (or Ellison) want to be the one who starts a second Civil War? Because that's exactly what that would be. And it's a pretty big ask of someone.

The ways things are proceeding, I do expect there to be a "first shot at Lexington" in the relatively near future.

What that's old Chinese curse? May you live in interesting times.

[tblue37]

9. The firing on Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861, which marked the official beginning of the American Civil War.

[wackadoo wabbit]

11. Thank you!

I knew someone here would be able to correct me. I really appreciate it!

[tinrobot]

15. The American Revolution could be considered our first Civil War

1/3 of the population were for independence, and 1/3 were loyalists. A good number of those loyalists fought against their fellow colonists.

The Ken Burns documentary was very enlightening.

[TBF]

10. I beg to differ - we aren't the ones who are shooting. Open your eyes. nt

[wackadoo wabbit]

13. I was looking for a metaphor for a single action starting a civil war

If you've got a better one — and, actually, tblue37 kindly pointed out that the firing on Fort Sumter is a better parallel — please let me know.

The point I was making is that it will be a single action that will start the next Civil War. Wahl arresting this ICE agent could be it.

FWIW, to this day, no one knows for certain who fired that first shot at Lexington. Witnesses at the time reported that it was actually a militiaman, not the British, however.

[BidenRocks]

43. Single act?

The Mayflower arrived.

[SocialDemocrat61]

12. Doesn't he need to be

indicted first?

[Dan]

14. The State Government should wait until TRUMP is out of office.

Charge him with State Crimes and make his life hell.

[SSJVegeta]

20. Im assuming thats what this would mean

[EdmondDantes_]

25. Why? Trump can't do anything about state charges

[Dan]

35. Agreed, but what he can do is target the State funding or projects

That has any funding from the Federal Government. Congress has shown that they will not defend or stand up for their role in our government.

[Dan]

46. Well today I guess the Federal government has stopped federal funds to the State.

[lastlib]

39. DOJ CAN get a case like this moved to federal court....

per Prof. Tribe tonight on Lawrence O'D. DOJ intervention could place a big burden on prosecution in the matter, even though the case would still have to apply state law, and prosecuted by a MN prosecutor.

[orangecrush]

27. Very optimistic

[Dan]

36. Yes, I have to be optimistic in my belief that there will be justice.

Else, everything I believe about America is a lie..

[orangecrush]

38. Facing facts

"The fact that not one single spine-having, duty-bound adult in American government exists to slam the brakes on this sh**show carnival is proof enough that this country deserves every ounce of contempt, ridicule, and global hatred it’s about to choke on for the next hundred years."
~Oliver Kornetzke

[Ocelot II]

31. There's no statute of limitations for murder. Just wait until the Trump regime is gone.

[AntiFascist]

16. I think they would have done this in San Francisco...just saying n/t

[Wicked Blue]

18. Because the thug is probably getting wined and dined at Merde-a-Loggo nt

[SSJVegeta]

19. Nothing.

[relayerbob]

21. He's long gone by now

They probably whisked him out of the state within an hour

[H2O Man]

22. He is not home.

[Nasruddin]

24. Personnel

My guess is 60-80% of their officers are MAGA. They can't be trusted with this problem.

[orangecrush]

28. Sadly true

[Ocelot II]

29. Doubtful he's still in the area.

[iemanja]

42. The FBI is obstructing MN law enforcement

The MN Bureau of Criminal Apprehension was initially working with the FBI until the Feds blocked them from seeing the evidence.

[marble falls]

45. A court order and a warrant. Due process. We aren't them.