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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEver since DJT ran for president the first time, I have seen the absolute worst of people
and everyday it just gets worse. It's as if they strive to be just as evil and soulless and selfish and twisted as he is. It's shocking to me.
Whatever happened to kindness, compassion and basic human decency? Those used to be admirable traits; now I don't know what they are. Or where they are.
I remember when Bill Clinton was impeached for a consensual sex act and the right-wingers were collectively clutching their pearls and crying "what do we tell the children?" Well, what do you tell the children now? Go out and be the biggest asshole you can possibly be and you'll be rewarded? Scream racial slurs at customers at your job and set up a gofundme and reap in the dough when you're rightfully fired? Participate in an insurrection and get pardoned? Cross state lines and shoot peaceful protesters, get acquitted at trial and be hailed a hero? Join a pack of lawless armed goons in masks and shoot an innocent woman in the face and people will lie and cover for you? I could go on and on with examples but there are far too many.
I dont have any answers, but I do know that it's not okay. None of it is okay and shame on the people who think it is. Shame on people who celebrate the very worst of humanity. Shame on the people who support DJT and his synchophants. Shame on them all.
Rant over. MIButterly out (for now).
Playingmantis
(537 posts)MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)Dave Bowman
(6,685 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(20,630 posts)As does everyone I know, but not to be shocking. To make a point that this man is FUBAR to the max!
Blues Heron
(8,398 posts)That should terrify the planet because trump has expressed a desire to set off nukes somewhere
no_hypocrisy
(54,314 posts)Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn.
Fil1957
(546 posts)civilization as we know it.
KT2000
(21,962 posts)the worst of this is to see on a daily basis how cruel and hateful so many people living among us have become. There is no longer shame in vomiting hate into our society.
I watched the movie Nuremberg about the psychiatrist who was sent to learn about Hermann Goering. He tried to warn the world that evil and hate can manifest in anyone but no one would listen. It ultimately destroyed him.
All I know to do is to maintain our standards and speak up.
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,139 posts)MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)Crowman2009
(3,408 posts)Because who the hell wants to be around those unsufferable POS on a daily basis. May as well file a restraining order against them since they are violent as well.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,204 posts)Nah, that has been common knowledge in this country for a long time.
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)It just wasn't so in-your-face as it is now, I guess.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,204 posts)Orrex
(66,687 posts)MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)but I'm afraid the damage he's wrought will live on long after he's gone.
moondust
(21,220 posts)Doing away with anything that promotes civility, grace, and equality because it gets in the way of their brutality.
yardwork
(68,983 posts)I read history and I've seen this story before.
How could the German people go along with the mass deportation and murder of millions of people just because they were Jewish, gay, travelers, or just different from some arbitrary standard? Austria and Germany were the epitome of civilized nations when they let this happen.
How could people who considered themselves to be Christian enslave other people for hundreds of years, torturing, raping, murdering? Why did white European colonists think God gave them the right to murder millions of other people and take their land?
It happens over and over throughout human history.
If we survive this the lesson is that the U.S. is not special. We are not exceptional. We are human beings just like everybody else and many of us have really shitty values and behaviors.
jmbar2
(7,649 posts)The term is disputed now, but it referred to the period between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance, the time of wars, plagues and religious and scientific repression. Fortunately, the Arab world preserved a lot of earlier advanced knowledge in math, science and medicine, to be later reintroduced to the western world.
I imagine you don't get to learn about that now at Texas A&M and other dumb factories that are banning classical works like Plato. But here we are. Anti-vax, antiscience, etc.
History rhymes.
yardwork
(68,983 posts)I studied the history of diseases in college. When COVID emerged I expected to see bizarre behavior, just as many people acted during the plagues in Europe. It's guaranteed that some people react to crises with fear, paranoia, hysteria and blame.
The really big crisis heading our way is climate change, which will bring water shortages, famines, and mass displacement. Based on how poorly a lot of people responded to COVID, I expect it will be a bad scene.
jmbar2
(7,649 posts)Climate is already setting off mass migrations from increasingly unliveable regions. The Ukraine war, Venezuela, Gaza, Africa - all have climate and resource issues driving migrations.
It's short-sighted to think that we can hold back a wave of people flowing across the globe without addressing the underlying issues.
yardwork
(68,983 posts)popsdenver
(1,569 posts)and it is most apparent out on the streets and roads with road rage, aggressive driving, and "entitled" driving...here in Denver and Colorado.....(not sure in other areas of the U.S.)
My grandchildren are forbidden by their parents to drive on interstates or major roads here in the Denver Metro area.....
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)It has permeated every area of our lives and we're all the worse for it.
mwmisses4289
(3,257 posts)Especially the pickup truck drivers. The bigger the pickup, the worse they are. Also, the expensive car drivers (think Mercedes, bmws, lexus). Road rage is worse because many of these idgits keep guns in their vehicles
popsdenver
(1,569 posts)has ALOT to do with driving.....Used to be Mercedes, Audis, Lexus in a close tie. Now, it is BMW's being far and away in first place, with Tesla and Prius
canetoad
(20,250 posts)Couldn't agree more. Very well said.
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)2na fisherman
(241 posts)"The authoritarian or sadomasochistic character is the result, Fromm believes, of efforts to meet human needs in an unpropitious environment. Unable to achieve satisfaction through either work or love, the lonely and anxious self finds dubious fulfillment either through thralldom to the power and glory above itmasochistic submission to God, the Leader, Duty or another person or by captivation and control of weaker beings below. Since sadistic and masochistic elements are invariably found in the same character, the individual is apt to enter into both relationships at once, in a perfect expression of the bureaucratic personality."
The Anatomy Of Human Destructiveness (Eric Fromm)
New York Times book review by Sara Sanborn
Nov. 18, 1973
This may help to explain what's on the minds of many supporting the Trump regime and others like it. But one of the greatest challenges of the 21st century will be to discover a way to change hearts and minds to remove this malignant aggression before it ends civilization.
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)I am especially intrigued by your final sentence, how to discover a way to change hearts and minds to remove this malicious aggression before it ends civilization, indeed.
jmbar2
(7,649 posts)I keep seeing posts on Reddit asking why young folks aren't out in force like in Iran and other nations. Instead of fighting the forces making our lives miserable, some are choosing to become the forces that make everyone miserable. Being a goon has become the best-paying job in America for average young folks.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,821 posts)It was only Jan. 7th, but it seemed like every day had been worse than the one before it. Maybe it is, or maybe it's just because I've been so sick (I've had the flu and it's been brutal, I'm still so weak and tired) but today I got up and it's just more of the same. Is there no hope at all?
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)It does seem like every day is worse than the day before, doesn't it? Sometimes I feel like it's hopeless, too. How much more can we take?
I hope you feel better soon. I had the flu a couple of months ago and it was no fun.
SunImp
(2,618 posts)Thanks to people like Carl Rove, Rush Limba, Alex Jones, etc
MIButterfly
(2,105 posts)I just dont get it.