Even if we remove him,

[TNNurse]

won't Vance just do what Miller and the others say?? I am feeling hopeless.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

1. Getting tRump removed would help, but yes, there are literally thousands

behind him. All the way down to local politician supporters, police, judges, election boards, school boards, ambassadors, and others. The damage is deeply rooted and strongly entrenched. But let's start with the orange asshole!

[Jerry2144]

3. The Confederacy Cancer has never been excised

Only went into slight remission post-Civil War.


Remember how they used to say, “The South shall rise again?” They have. And their cancer metastasized throughout all corners of the US society.

[Blues Heron]

2. Vance doesn't have the evil mojo Trump has, he's more like a pipsqueak.

[Iggo]

14. There's no law that says Miller stays if Trump goes.

First thing I’d do if I was Vance is hire my own staff.

[leftstreet]

4. The internal fighting for power would be worth it

Trump's entire cabinet - unqualified, stupid, unprofessional. Right now their "powers" are bestowed or withdrawn by sucking up to Trump the narcissist.

Without him it will be like kindergarten with no teacher. Bring it!

[Efilroft Sul]

5. That depends on the method of removal.

They're overreaching on all fronts. Sooner or later, there will be blowback. As the Bard said, "These violent delights have violent ends."

[ITAL]

6. No one has the power over the base that Trump does

So, no...there would be fracturing of voters and because of that the current party leadership. He manages to keep them all in line.

[progressoid]

7. I contend that it will be worse.

JD is a huge opportunist and is somewhat competent. With other semi-competent opportunists like Rubio, Hegseth, Lutnick, etc.at his side and with virtually no legal guardrails, the amount of damage they could do is immense.

I hate this timeline.

[bluestarone]

8. Well, let's remove the head of this snake. then

Deal with the rest of the leftovers. The head has got to go!!

[flvegan]

9. Ask Erika Kirk what she thinks.

She possesses the new "leather cushions" controlling Vance's attention.

[ScratchCat]

10. If Trump were to be removed

It would require a number of Republicans in the Senate to do so(nobody thinks Democrats can take 67 seats). So, if they finally agree, it would seem that they would be done with him. While Vance may still be there, I think we'd see a bunch of "Trump who?" start from Republicans and they would move on pretending they never supported the unsupportable.

[lostnfound]

11. Yes but don't feel hopeless..and there are other scenarios

1. We could have a Gerald Ford substitution first. Unlikely but we are living through unlikely.
2. Dems are 3 votes away from majority in house — after the midterms, a Vance scandal of some sort followed by Trump impeachment, resignation (‘for health’), or death could change the whole picture. Also unlikely but these are extraordinary times. Massive anti-trust actions or threats of investigation are two tools a Democratic congress could use to drive change or reign in abuses.

The country needs to rebuild a common worldview not crafted by a sociopathic oligarchy.

[marble falls]

12. Not enough charisma. The one good thing that TACO has done is hire people with even less ability than himself ...

... they can follow, but they cannot lead.

[CrispyQ]

13. You slay the monster in front of you & hope you have a little breather before the battling the next one.

It's exhausting & they know it & count on it. But when Trump croaks, & let's hope it's today, the maga movement will stall, maybe not out, but it will stall. They will not quickly or easily coalesce around another single person. They've shown the various factions can't get along.

Check out Indivisible to find local fellow resisters! Knowing you're not alone in real life & not just virtually, will really help! I put out a different yard sign every day & was about to give up last March & then one day I found a note stuck in my door that said, "Thank you for putting out your signs every day. I'm so glad I'm not alone." Since then, I've gotten three more notes, one in the mail with $20 in it, & often, when people see me out in the yard they honk & give me a

Think globally, act locally.

IDK who said that but it's perfect.

[Iggo]

15. Maybe. I say let's find out.

If we put out the house fire, won’t our rugs be ruined?

Probably. Let’s find out.