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marble falls

(70,597 posts)
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:13 PM Yesterday

As A.I. Companies Borrow Billions, Debt Investors Grow Wary

As A.I. Companies Borrow Billions, Debt Investors Grow Wary

Artificial intelligence companies looking to raise funds are being made to pay lofty interest rates, as debt investors become cautious.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/26/business/ai-debt-investors.html

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But the debt market is telling a different story, some investors say. New artificial intelligence companies looking to raise funds to supercharge their nascent businesses are being made to pay lofty interest rates on the money they borrow, indicative of investors’ skepticism when new, unproven A.I. businesses take on large debts.

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There are other indicators of debt investors’ wariness: Some of the bonds have tumbled in price after being issued, in a sign of increased caution among investors. And the cost of credit default swaps, which protect bond investors from losses, has surged in recent months on some A.I. companies’ debt.

Construction delays at these sprawling data facilities could push out the time it takes before they can start generating revenue from their leases to A.I. companies. Investors also worry that, in the end, there could be less demand for A.I. computing power, creating a glut of unneeded data centers and leading to defaults on the debt used to finance the buildings.

Debt investors are stereotypically seen as pessimists, while stock investors are viewed as optimists. That is largely because of the difference between the two types of investments. Equity investors have unlimited upside for a company and its stock price to grow and keep rewarding their investment. Debt investors are just looking to get their money back with interest.

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A portfolio manager at AllianceBernstein said “We just have to be much more pessimistic and not buy into the hype.” Companies financing the next phase of A.I. infrastructure have gotten more than $100 billion from banks this year, according to data from Refinitiv. In loan for debt deal for Applied Digital, they paid as much as 3.75 percentage points above similarly rated companies, about a 70% increase in interest.

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As A.I. Companies Borrow Billions, Debt Investors Grow Wary (Original Post) marble falls Yesterday OP
As Well They Might. MineralMan Yesterday #1
AI should be expanded to Abundant Iniquity /nt dickthegrouch Yesterday #2
AI companies should pay for electrical grid upgrades Henry203 Yesterday #3
AI is now an integral part of modern life..... anciano Yesterday #4
I've got three bottles of champagne in my refrigerator. hunter 23 hrs ago #7
"Mostly when I encounter Ai it's an irritation" jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #9
Signs of the approaching bursting of the bubble? Wounded Bear Yesterday #5
If TACO bursts the economy, there will be no loan money available. If he manages to hold the line, ... marble falls Yesterday #6
The tech press is partly to blame jfz9580m 20 hrs ago #8

Henry203

(839 posts)
3. AI companies should pay for electrical grid upgrades
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 02:47 PM
Yesterday

and for the charges for their electricity.

anciano

(2,168 posts)
4. AI is now an integral part of modern life.....
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 02:47 PM
Yesterday

and as a technology will remain relevant and continue to grow in its practical applications.

hunter

(40,333 posts)
7. I've got three bottles of champagne in my refrigerator.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 10:19 PM
23 hrs ago

I've got one for Trump, one for Musk, and one for this New Year's Eve.

I'll replace this New Year's Eve bottle with one for the bursting of the AI bubble.

Relying on stupid "Artificial Intelligence" is the path to Idiocracy -- it's watering your plants with Brawndo because Brawndo's got electrolytes.

I have no use for AI in my life. Mostly when I encounter AI it's an irritation.

jfz9580m

(16,522 posts)
9. "Mostly when I encounter Ai it's an irritation"
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:50 AM
20 hrs ago

“You and me both man. That thing is lucky I am not armed”


I am painfully restarting my life today after a too long brush with junk tech (14 years and 4 months).

Feel like a load is off my mind after I decided to file complaints about unwanted bloatware.

I am doing an experiment now where instead of ritualistic AA style tech “detoxes” and performative online/offline histrionics, I just dial tech and other rot down to their status in my life - junk I will file complaints over rather than acclimate to. A simple decision that restores normalcy. Then I can just ignore it since whatever the deal is it will be a fight.

It is a humblebrag that these guys’ products are addictive. They are a nuisance.

marble falls

(70,597 posts)
6. If TACO bursts the economy, there will be no loan money available. If he manages to hold the line, ...
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 08:00 PM
Yesterday

... there's no low interest money available.

jfz9580m

(16,522 posts)
8. The tech press is partly to blame
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:40 AM
20 hrs ago

They kept this hype bubble going. I am presently turning off even predictive text (though it seems greyed out..blast and damn it) on my phone in annoyance.

I disagree with this scientist Adam Becker on one point only - he said it is akin to hyping really good autocorrect. In my experience it is more like really shitty autowrong.

It is the damn Printer from Office Space on steroids.

(Btw can anyone tell me why predictive text cannot be turned off on the Iphone?)

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