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angrychair

(10,712 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:19 PM 23 hrs ago

Strange New Worlds

When I was a kid I was fascinated with science fiction. My first memories are of shows like Flash Gordon, Space 1999, Star Blazers, Star Wars and Star Trek.
The future wasn't always pretty but it was the tech and the stories and the people. There was hope. Friends. Better possible future.
It was a huge factor in my getting involved in the tech industry. I've been in the electronics and computer world for over 40 years. SciFi and the lessons taught by many of them, is a huge part of who I am and helped shape my ideals and my politics.

Nothing had more of an impact on me than Star Trek. No TV or movie or even a person, can claim to have had as much influence on technological and social development than Star Trek. Even the original series short run of only three seasons, inspired more engineers and technology thinkers than any single university ever could. The spin offs and movies would continue to inspire engineers and thinkers for generations to come.
Socially, Gene Roddenberry turned the TV industry and the world upside down. In November of 1968, in an episode titled "Plato's Stepchildren" (Season 3 Ep10) Nichelle Nichols and William Shatner kissed, the first time a Black woman and a white man had a scripted kiss on a US TV show. It would also be one of the most racially diverse shows on TV at the time.
It gave us a galaxy which still had its challenges but offered the most hopeful vision for humanity then any SciFi show ever made, past or present.

That vision, Mr. Roddenberry's vision, shaped my hopes and dreams for a better tomorrow. That this world, with its pollution and racism and war, was not to be our lot in life. That future was possible. We could make that real. And I know I wasn't the only person that thought that.

That is why, here, today, in the year 2025, I am beyond disappointed. In fact there is no language to adequately express my feelings about this.
Thing is, it's easy to blame an orange narcissist and a host of badly acted bond villains as the reason. Yes, they do share some of the blame but I'm really disappointed in all of us because we let them.

We let them fuck us over. They didn't give us Galaxy-class starships with photon torpedos and artificial gravity or a classless society in which nothing limits you but you and all your earthly needs can be met by walking up to a device and saying things like "Earl Grey tea, hot" and bobs your uncle, you have tea and you don't even have to wash the dishes later.

My point is this is not the future I hoped for or dreamed about for decades. This future sucks.
I am never going to see that future. That is enough to make me cry...and sometimes it does.

All I can hope for is maybe, one day in a future beyond my time that my kids or maybe my grandkids, will utter the phrase "beam me up Scotty" and they will.

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Bettie

(18,378 posts)
1. My husband told me
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:22 PM
23 hrs ago

that we were at a point where we could choose our future: Star Trek or Mad Max.

We did not choose Star Trek. Well, WE here chose Star Trek....but a few more (less than 1%) chose the other.

wcmagumba

(4,067 posts)
2. No the Star Trek vision is still not here...I met Gene R in 1975 at my college and am so happy I did, He signed my Star
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:24 PM
23 hrs ago

Trek calendar Live Long and Prosper with my name and it still hangs on my wall...still hoping we get there but I'm old and might not be around...Oh well....

Intractable

(1,072 posts)
4. In an episode of DS9, Sisko and the away team use Bajor's Orb of Time to visit 21st century Earth.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:31 PM
23 hrs ago

It's a nightmare of fascism and concentration camps.

So, even for Star Trek (which has been my favorite thing in the universe for over 50 years), things get worse before they get better.

Live long and prosper.

angrychair

(10,712 posts)
6. Oh yes
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:50 PM
22 hrs ago

It's a mess for awhile. The eugenics wars and WWIII happen long before Zefram Cochrane takes his first warp flight in the ruins of a world still recovering from the war.
I always hoped we could avoid such a fate but that does not seem to be the case.

PufPuf23

(9,434 posts)
5. Philip K Dick's science fiction worlds have been more predictive of Earth-bound humanity.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:34 PM
23 hrs ago

Humanity has yet to get off the planet nor experience a nuclear war so some of PKD's worlds are still in the future.

eShirl

(19,330 posts)
7. We'd be in that era between the Bell Riots and warp drive/First Contact with Vulcans
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:28 AM
22 hrs ago

which includes World War III and the post-atomic horror, so the Federation's historical records of that era were incomplete. Zefram Cochrane's first warp flight isn't until 2063.

angrychair

(10,712 posts)
8. Yea
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:35 AM
22 hrs ago

I kind of mentioned that in post #6. My hope is that we can avoid that part but it seems more likely with each passing day.

Irish_Dem

(70,905 posts)
10. Excellent post.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:20 AM
15 hrs ago

I have had the same thoughts exactly.

Grew up loving SciFi. And dreamed of a better world.
Instead we have become a classic dystopia.

Very sad at recent events. The world is going to the dark side.

The battle between good and evil is the iconic human condition.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,803 posts)
11. FYI Roddenberry wasn't involved in the third season of TOS
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:41 AM
15 hrs ago

So he had nothing to do with the episode Plato’s Stepchildren.

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