Reports that US armed forces now involved with the Iran/Israel conflict

[Arazi]

Edited to add, this isn’t a surprise. It’s more of a wry observation about Traitor’s repeated declarations of “no foreign wars or involvement” during his many years campaign.

Along with the comparison to his grotesque toying with/reluctance to give Ukraine assistance.

And just like that, U.S. forces are involved.

— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-06-13T19:02:58.432Z

[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. The last 2 times that Iran fired missiles and drones at Israel,

US forces also helped shoot them down, as did the UK and other ME nations.

I, myself, have no problem with this.

[Butterflylady]

6. Yes well I do...

Remember who will back them up, China. Do you really think this will keep the rest of the Middle East will not help Iran?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. Well good for you,

I doubt China will get involved except calling for all sides to show restraint, they're more interested in Taiwan and controlling the S. China Sea.

[Ace Rothstein]

17. The rest of the Middle East is absolutely not jumping in to defend Iran.

They are all quietly thanking Israel behind the scenes.

[JI7]

20. Saudi Arabia supports Israel against Iran as do a number of other nations

[MarineCombatEngineer]

21. In case you hadn't noticed,

the ME is NOT jumping in to help Iran, I would bet a month's worth of my pension that behind the scenes, there is relief that Israel has neutered Iran's nuclear program and a lot of military targets.

[Disaffected]

28. How do you mean "neutered?

Have the deep underground enrichment facilities been breached?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. If Israel has US made bunker buster bombs, then it's a good bet that

they hit the underground enrichment facilities.

[Disaffected]

39. Yes, IF.

That's the question. If they have them and if they have used them I assume for now the answer is no else we would have seen it reported somewhere.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

44. They did hit and severely damage Irans main uranium enrichment facility in Natanz.

From the NY Times:

Natanz
Roughly 140 miles south of Tehran, Natanz is considered Iran’s main center for uranium enrichment, and it was a prime target of the Israeli strikes. The damage to it appeared to be severe. It is only partially underground and was recently reinforced.

It contains a range of sophisticated centrifuges, including the most advanced models, for enriching uranium to high levels. The International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, says there are nearly 14,000 centrifuges at work there, with thousands more in place but inactive.

Uranium enriched at low levels can be used as fuel for civilian uses, such as producing energy. Highly enriched uranium can be used to make nuclear weapons.

Natanz has been targeted in the past, with a computer virus, Stuxnet, some 15 years ago, and with sabotage and explosions as recently as 2021. Iran has always in the past repaired the damage and increased the sophistication of its centrifuges.

Rafael Grossi, the head of the I.A.E.A., confirmed on Friday that Natanz had been hit but said that no radiation leak had been detected so far. He condemned attacks on nuclear facilities in general, as he has done in Ukraine, as very dangerous.

“Any military action that jeopardizes the safety and security of nuclear facilities risks grave consequences for the people of Iran, the region and beyond,” Mr. Grossi told the agency’s board of governors in Vienna.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-facilities-israel-attack-natanz.html

This is in addition to the other nuclear facilities in Iran that Israel attacked, so, yeah, neutered.

[Disaffected]

59. Not sure how partial damage at one facility

equates to neutered but OK.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

60. Did you even bother to read the whole article instead of just what I highlighted?

They hit other installations around the country, they took out top military officials along with top nuclear scientists, so, yeah, I'd say that Israel has neutralized Iran and given itself, and the world, time to resolve this.

Allowing Iran to posses a nuke would be a disaster for the ME, and the rest of the world for that matter.

[Disaffected]

61. Why yes, I did.

In particular I noticed the Fordo enrichment facility:

Iran’s best-protected nuclear site, Fordo, near the city of Qum, is deep inside a mountain, estimated to be about half a mile below ground to protect it from bombing. Israel did not appear to have attacked it.

To do so would require repeated use of huge “bunker buster” bombs, and most experts think that cannot be done by Israel alone, without American help.

Fordo was operated secretly by Iran until it was exposed in 2009. It contains Iran’s most advanced centrifuges and is considered crucial for Iran to enrich uranium to 60 percent, close to bomb grade. It is said to contain close to 3,000 sophisticated centrifuges, more than half of them the most modern type, with the capacity to install at least 1,000 more.

That plus only partial damage at the Natanz site and no reported assault at the Bushehr nuclear reactor site leads me to believe your optimism is at least at this point premature.

However, we can agree completely on your closing paragraph.

[Igel]

56. Why ask?

It's an open proclamation--not even "open secret"--that they used in them in taking out Nasrallah in his den of whoevers in Beirut last year.

They're good for taking out those in burrows--Hamas' tunnels come to mind. But once needed for concrete-lined tunnels 50, 80, 100 ft underground, the possibilities of hitting concentrations of brave, stalwart rabbit ... warriors! ... hiding deep underground that hate Jew ... Zionists! ... is immense.

[democratsruletheday]

43. pretty much agree with you MCE....

they've been allowed to run amok for far too long, although why NOW would be seen as a good time by Netenyahoo....who knows. But the fact is that no one in the west has checked them yet and it needed to be done at some point.

[Arazi]

54. Iran's proxies are decimated and their plans to use their help against Israel is destroyed

Hezbollah is decapitated from the pager strike. Hamas is bogged down in Gaza, Assad is finished in Syria. Even the Houthis have been taken down a notch from US bombardments.

Pair that info with a willing US partner withTraitor (or at least not obstructionist like Biden)…

I presume those facts and (perhaps) intelligence that Iran is close(r) to nuclear enrichment tipped them to action.

I’ll go further and stipulate that other ME countries were onboard with this- everyone understands Iran’s leadership is demented

[PufPuf23]

63. What do you mean by "or at least not obstructionist like Biden"? nt

[Arazi]

64. Biden didn't want Israel to attack Iran

I don’t mean obstructionist in a pejorative way

[PufPuf23]

66. Confused as obstructionist is pejorative term.

POTUS Biden was for a two-state solution and Gaza humanitarian ceasefire in my perception.

[BidenRocks]

35. Where is congress?

Chump cannot declare war on his own!
Make no mistake.
We are at war with the Federal government.

I have also had quite enough threats from all levels of law enforcement and government!
Fuck your threats as you are missing the point!
J-6 Now it's different?

Sent from occupied Los Angeles.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

38. A US President can send US forces into action for 60 days before they have to have Congressional approval

for those forces to remain in combat, so, in this case, yes, he can.

[Igel]

57. Not terribly pertinent in this case.

Who's the US military attacked?

Nobody in the ME. It apparently shot down missiles/etc. that would mostly have hit civilians. No Iranians or Iranian territory or property was affected, unless you want to claim that defensively shooting down a missile is an act of war.

In that case, blocking a punch = punching a person.

Just no.

[karynnj]

2. Not surprising, we did the same under Biden

Then Iran was retaliating against Israeli targeting of Hamas leaders including one in Iran, the targeting of Hezbollah, and Iran's defenses. Then we even had a coalition of Sunni states helping us.

Where things would be a MAJOR step up is if we are helping Israel in their attacks on Iran.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

5. Yep, US forces helping to shoot down incoming weapons is purely defensive, not offensive,

which I would oppose, defensive-OK, offensive-not OK.

[karynnj]

7. I saw your earlier post after I posted saying about the same thing.

[Butterflylady]

3. Hide your sons and daughters.....

Don't let them spill the blood of Americans!!!!

[PCIntern]

4. Of course they are, always have been...

As far as recent events, the Saudis want Iran decapitated, and have made the deal with the US and Israel and likely Jordan as well. Now, it’s about the trillions of dollars involved in the Saudi partnerships.

[Butterflylady]

9. And you believe the Saudis......

I don't.

[PCIntern]

15. Oh...ok...

So all the reports of Israeli/Saudi deals with the US moderating along with other countries was bull. Ok. Whatever you’d like to think.

One thing: Israel is telling everyone that the days of the Yom Kippur War and October 7th are over. No more allowance of victimhood. The price for damaging Israel is a thousand times the initial strike.

[quakerboy]

26. the Saudis like us

Especially under Trump.

The US is a cheap, corrupt, amoral date.

They'd sell us out in a heartbeat for a more favorable option. But that's not likely in the near future

[sinkingfeeling]

8. Explain to me why we will help defend Israel from a drone attack, but not Ukraine.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. Great question.

[Butterflylady]

12. Your answer pleas....

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. I'm not in the know, I'm just a simple truck driver,

that's way out of my pay grade.

[Ace Rothstein]

18. Because of who is doing the attacking.

Russia could strike the US while Iran can't.

[LudwigPastorius]

22. Iran doesn't have hundreds of ICBMs with a thousand nuclear warheads aimed at American cities.

...you know, like Russia certainly has.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. So, you and the responder above, admit the USA has no true principles and are cowards. We'll only use our military

against weaker foes? That does seem to be what we've done since 1945. Then why does the military need $1 trillion a year?

[LudwigPastorius]

25. Realpolitik has been a guiding part of United States foreign policy for decades.

While we aspire to principles, we try not to go headlong into shooting wars over them.

Your word "cowards" certainly fits the current administration.

[BidenRocks]

36. Think of what Ukraine could do

with one Trillion dollars.

[Crunchy Frog]

55. Some lives matter way more than others.

And that's regardless of which party is in control.

IMO, we should have closed the skies over Ukraine at the start of that war. Putin would have thrown a tantrum, but I don't think there's any way that he would have actually followed through on his nuclear threats.

[Igel]

58. Esp. since that was then and this is now.

Because it was Biden that decided some of that policy. Trump's merely stopping what I've always thought as a stunted, warped policy. Then again, what do I know? But after striding timidly over redline after redline, always too late to stop horrible slaughter, perhaps that showed wisdom. Or pips that sqeaked loudly, but pippishly.

Then, regarding this particular bit of military policy, there's that little agreement that says we can't send warships into the Black Sea without Turkey's permission--and Turkey's "neutrality" has stopped pretty much all military vessels' transit through the Dardanelles.

How, exactly, *could* we stop Russia's missile/drone attacks without either violating that agreement or, maybe, you know, simply sending munitions to Ukraine.

In the case of Israel, some is exactly what we did in Ukraine--send anti-missile defense armaments and munitions. But a lot has been, in response to imminent threats, to have ships stationed off shore and resources in the air. Can't do that 24/7/365.

[rollin74]

11. I have no problem with the U.S. helping to

shoot down Iranian missiles launched at Israel

[LexVegas]

16. Israel is one of our closest allies. This is appropriate. nt

[Ping Tung]

19. Which side are they fighting for this time.

Do they care? Do they even know? Are they just more cannon fodder for the politicians who start the wars.?

It doesn't matter which side wins when you're dead. Yossarian from Catch-22

[demmiblue]

23. ...

It appears that we are actively and directly involved in a major conflict between Israel and Iran which is rapidly escalating and the only thing we have heard from the admin is an obviously false denial from the Sec of State and a Truth Social post from the president about peace talks.

— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-06-13T19:41:27.778Z

Shouldn’t SOMEONE from the Trump admin have addressed the nation about this or are they too busy working on his birthday parade? Are we allowed to know anything about this new war we are fighting?

— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-06-13T19:51:29.363Z

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. We helped Israel intercept Iranian missiles and drones the last 2 times under Biden,

so, what's changed?

[BidenRocks]

41. Chumps lies

that we are not involved!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

45. Did he?

I know he's a serial liar, but did he lie when he said we weren't involved in the actual destruction of Iran's facility?
I've no doubt that we did help in subtle ways, but not the actual combat.

[BidenRocks]

47. Chump was caught in this lie

when Bibi laid out all the c3 and weapons assistance we provided.

[OC375]

29. We back up our allies

It's what allies do, to varying degrees, and have done as long as there have been tribes. I'd hope others will back us whenever our next challenge comes along. I'm not optomistic of that with the current administration, but mutual backup is the plan I'm sure. Makes sense to follow through and help with their defense.

[erronis]

30. Only when it serves our interests. Ask Afghanistan or Ukraine or democratic countries such as Iran

that we undermined to install our puppet. Think about all the CIA/corporate regimes installed in South/Central America because it serves our "interests".

[Disaffected]

65. You do??

Are Canada and Denmark (i.e. Greenland) allies? Somehow doesn't feel like it now-a-days.

[OC375]

67. Yes

Yes to both. And I agree.

[LPBBEAR]

31. How many Americans

will this piece of shit kill before he is dragged out of the White House to face a firing squad for his treasonous actions?

(Yeah....right.....don't be so harsh and unrealistic blah blah blah. Screw that. Rid the planet of this waste of air before the death toll exceeds his Covid f**k ups.)

[orangecrush]

32. So WW3 is gonna start

With this fuckstick in office.

Enjoy whatever you have while you can.

[slightlv]

37. I aleays figured it would.

After all, despite calling himself lord and savior he lies just like an antichrist. We were always told the antichrist would come out of the ME. We'll with as much intermingling of business and pleasure trump has with them, I say the beast did come out of the ME. He's certainly showed more help and loyalty towards them than his own country or countrymen.

[BidenRocks]

49. We're not even sure of the

World Cup!

[Warpy]

33. Most likely Jordan is involved in the same way

which means shooting down Iranian drones and missiles, Jordan shooting down the ones from Iran, the US shooting down any from the Houthis or Hezbollah.

Iran screeches like there are US boots on the ground every time this happens.

[Iamscrewed]

40. Late declaration

Ww3 been on for awhile.

[ananda]

42. I think it was a secret agreement between Trump and Bibi.

That Bibi would attack Iran, and the USA would have missile
defense in place.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. That makes the most sense.

[walkingman]

50. Agree, I think it is basically a US proxy war. When Trump pulled out

of the Obama Nuclear Deal he basically created the opportunity for Israel or the US to use the excuse that we were keeping them from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

repeat - we pulled out of the Nuclear Deal which allowed this.

It is similar in many ways to our unprovoked attack on Iraq based on supposedly "intelligence" that said they had WMDs. How long did that war last?

I do not support Iran, but I also do not support offensive wars for speculative reasons.

[ananda]

53. Good info.

Thanks

[NH Ethylene]

48. When a ally initiates an attack, against our wishes,

Why do we then have to back them up with our troops and our money and our weapons? Israel would not be so brazenly aggressive if the US were not blindly supportive.

And I said this under Biden too.

[OrlandoDem2]

51. Trump will get us into another forever war! Fuck!

But if we can defend Israel we can defend Ukraine!

[OrlandoDem2]

52. Netanyahu has every political motive to be a warmonger.

His political career depends on advancing war.

[Jit423]

62. US was involved from the beginning. nt