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It is rumored that on June 14th, Proud Boys, and alt.. right groups plan to infiltrate the protests, attack the police and destroy property.
If violence breaks out at your protest sit DOWN.
Leave only the provocateurs standing
Please share far and wide. Do not let them provoke you

bdamomma
(68,539 posts)nt
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,338 posts)Provocateurs depend on crowds for cover. Leaving will make them stop, which is a good thing. If it doesn't make them stop, then they are exposed. Win-win for us, the good side.
When the provocateurs leave, then go back. Or be protesting elsewhere already.
Repeat as many times as necessary to expose provocateurs.
IronLionZion
(49,124 posts)sitting makes it easier for bootlickers to kick us in the face
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)The key is to never get arrested.
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,338 posts)You'll get run over and won't be able to get up. People will fall on top of you and be pushed by the crowd on top of you. You could die.
If the crowd is too dense, move to a less crowded place.
Situational awareness at all times when in crowds. Keep an eye on the periphery for unusual movements.
Amaryllis
(10,457 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,878 posts)When vandalism or violence breaks out, you are not protesting anymore. Leave the area safely and don't be holding anything they might decide is a weapon.
ancianita
(40,624 posts)moonscape
(5,546 posts)for being violently off-key. Or maybe Id make them run for their own damned lives!
Codifer
(999 posts)and subdue the planet.
orangecrush
(25,003 posts)It would be considered assault with a deadly weapon
Thanks. Humor is essential.
SeattleVet
(5,692 posts)So low that they can't hear me.
Grim Chieftain
(214 posts)I have really been concerned about violence against protesters, so we all need to be alert and aware.
flvegan
(65,061 posts)I mean, this whole "everyone sit down at once" with the expectations that thousands (tens of thousands?) of people will drop to their butts like a kindergarten class all at once has kind of made the rounds. I've seen this at least 6 or 7 times, and I'm not on the TikTok/Twitter/Insta disease-fests like most are. Do we think they'll just stand and be like, "okay, ya got me" in this sort of instance?
Maybe other folks have thought about this better than I have.
relayerbob
(7,211 posts)They might sit, they might not, but if people are sitting, they aren't breaking windows, starting fires, etc., so even if they join the crowd and sit, that reduces potential violence.
usedtobedemgurl
(1,708 posts)Hard to say folks were rioting if they are just sitting there.
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,107 posts)liberalla
(10,530 posts)AverageOldGuy
(2,642 posts)If cops are present, point out the thugs.
Beachnutt
(8,747 posts)Video and point them out.
Ohioboy
(3,672 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,547 posts)AND the last thing you want to do is turn it over to the Police or ANY of the mainstream TV networks......get it to the WaPo and NYT or DU.....
And have people standing back from the main crowd, from an elevated position filming everything........
I for sure would not have a single individual at the Parade in DC......period.
I am looking for what the 6,000 military soldiers in the parade are wearing.......dress uniforms, or full battle gear......Very Telling..........It is a perfect set up to use excessive force on anyone who isn't a MAGAot.........and the entire day, across the entire U.S. will be a set up for any violence giving him the reason he wants to install the so-called Insurrection Act, over ride the Posse Comatatus Act, and declare martial law allowing him to use the entire U.S. Military against dissension in any manner, real or fancied by him and Fox News.......
Also, during the BLM demonstrations, people were following the individuals that were doing the major vandalism, breaking windows, and starting fires to see where they went after their actions. The peaceful demonstrators video recorded their actions and them leaving the "riot" to go back to their cars near the site and them escaping....definitely RW MAGAots, inciting violence as if they were demonstrators.......
This is what the Proud Boys have been waiting for, along with the 1600 pardoned by Trump, to have some payback.......
Interesting that a lot of the elderly that demonstrated in the 60's, tell me they can't participate due to their elderly condition and are in hopes that the younger participate........
Mountain Mule
(1,155 posts)I started out protesting in the 60's and I see no reason to stop now.
orangecrush
(25,003 posts)Passages
(2,887 posts)Jay25
(423 posts)Send in undercover goons to vandalize and attack police. Make sure fellow ICE comrades are present to whisk them away to safety, and then, the orange one declares martial law.
Escurumbele
(3,819 posts)Every wanna-be-dictator uses the same tactics. I have friends in Venezuela, and they would tell me about it. Venezuela is not a big country like the USA is, people know who is who, they knew the thugs that were committing crimes during the peaceful protests were linked to the government.
Like what trump is trying to do here, Chavez implemented a militia called "Los Colectivos", the government equipped them with motorcycles, guns and a monthly salary to do what militias do, create chaos. The "Colectivos" went even further, started robbing people, collecting "protection fees" to small businesses, killed innocent people, raped women, and pretty much did whatever they pleased with the protection of the government.
trump's intent to pardon all the thugs who participated in the insurrection was not that he truly believes they were victims, or anything else, he did it because now he has the loyalty of the criminals, it is own personal army, and they are dangerous.
I cannot believe there is nothing that can be done to stop the madness, I sometimes think Democratic leaders are letting it happen to let the USA understand the mistake they made electing trump, and to allow republicans to show how disgraceful they are to make sure future elections go to the Democrats, the problem is that when you let something like this go too far, it is very difficult to stop it, to fix. It is like a snowball, once it gets going it just grows, the devastation it causes is tremendous.
DENVERPOPS
(12,547 posts)the insurrectionists, all 1600 that were sitting in prison from his last time, and know he will do the same this time around, giving them immunity to act out any way they want.....
This entire Debacle was a set up, well organized, well orchestrated, and executed to create the situation we are enduring and what will take place in the near future.......They have been working towards this diligently, since they corruptly and using Treason, stole the election from Carter in 1980
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,107 posts)drmeow
(5,622 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,107 posts)drmeow
(5,622 posts)to do safely or without being blamed for what is going on.
When was the last time you were at a large protest?
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,107 posts)SWBTATTReg
(25,393 posts)what, when, and where. Every little bit will help nail the provocateurs later.
duhneece
(4,361 posts)They want all of us to ignore and dont speak to folks who reveal themselves to not be supportive of our values and to SIT DOWN if we sense trouble.
Were in a very red county in a poor blue state (New Mexico). Weve been protesting every Saturday since early March.
Warpy
(113,529 posts)because bullies shy away from situations where they know they're outnumbered.
People in red areas are going to need to figure out escape routes when the local cops show up. Alternate protest locations are also good, make them divide their forces and put them on the wrong foot all the way. Oh, and make sure the ACLI's number is somewhere on your person, you'll want to give them a call, too, if you're caught and thrown into jail.
Also realize that civil disobedience, even that protected by the constitution, is risky. That is especially true when a fucking fascist is in office.
My demo days are over, at least while I'm having the RA flare from hell. Thank you all for trying to restore my faith in my fellow Americans.
Mike 03
(18,484 posts)specializing in Fascism, and she was anxious because he was predicting some kind of false flag or mass casualty event of some kind that Trump would then use to his advantage (as we've discussed here on many occasions). I think that is strange, because Professor Stanley is a very grounded, brilliant guy whose predictions (that I'm aware of) have come into being. He's not someone who makes hyperbolic, outlandish predictions that don't come to pass.
Your post just made me think about that.
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)GTFO as fast as you can. Never ever get arrested.
It will ruin your life and cost you a huge amount of time and money. I guarantee that if you sit down they will kettle you and arrest you.
JustAnotherGen
(35,305 posts)Included sitting down. If 20 Proud Boys stand up over 1000 protesters sitting down . .. dumping water and food on their heads, swearing at them, pushing them, etc. etc.
It's not a good look for America.
Never confuse the police with the white supremacist gangs - Klan, Proud Boys, etc. etc.
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)The 1960s. If you can afford the time and money to get voluntarily arrested then do so.
The cops have no problem kettling 1000 people trust me.
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,107 posts)These were specialized activists who trained in the tactic and prepared for the likelihood of arrest or injury. They sat down to *bear* the violence, not try to show that someone else deserves it. Randos just plopping on their asses while cops are already swinging at violent "provocateurs" is a recipe for disaster.
relayerbob
(7,211 posts)Turn tail and run away. No amount of cowardice will ever win people rights.
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)And get arrested while the proud boys do a lot of damage and walk away .
relayerbob
(7,211 posts)Seriously
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)LauraInLA
(2,154 posts)organizers here in the LA area are recommending it.
Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)Arrested. I'm sure you have seen video where people get hauled off one by one after being kettled. It seems like a righteous thing to do except that once it's over you are forgotten about.
Except for the court appearances, fines, jail and so on.
LauraInLA
(2,154 posts)disruptors. Im guessing at least some of the choice depends on location/situation.
Torchlight
(4,834 posts)Klarkashton
(3,567 posts)whopis01
(3,837 posts)if violence broke out or there were obvious agitators infiltrating the protest?
LauraInLA
(2,154 posts)mntleo2
(2,592 posts)Appreciate this alert and a way to stay safe (we hope with those violent jerks roaming around, who knows)?
Cat in Seattle
moniss
(7,441 posts)so they can be tracked and identified.
ShazzieB
(20,863 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm always skeptical about internet rumors, just because I know the internet is like a giant game of telephone where things can easily get blown up and/or distorted out of proportion. So, imo, taking an unverified rumor with a grain of salt is usually a wise course of action. But assuming this one is true, here are my thoughts...
1. From what I'm hearing, there are around 1800 No Kings protests cheduled as of right now. That means there aren't nearly enough PBs to infiltrate all of them. If there are multiple white supremacist groups involved, that would change the calculus, but even so, I doubt that most of the protests will be affected, just based on sheer numbers.
2. That means they are going to have to choose which one(s) to target. If they show up at one of the really big protests in major cities (especially Philly, which is going to be the flagship event), they're more likely to make the news in a big way. But there will also be more police presence on hand to deal with them quickly.
3. If they show up at smaller protests, they'd probably have a significant impact in those localities but would be less likely to get the kind of mass media coverage I'm sure they want.
Considering all these factors, and assuming that media attention is a major motivation, I'm inclined to think they would focus on the bigger, major city protests, or maybe even just the one in Philly.
Personally, I'm going to be be at one of the more than two dozen protests scattered around the Chicago suburbs, rather than the big one in downtown Chicago. (The older I get, the more I tend to avoid gigantic crowds, and I know that one is going to be humongous.)
I'll won't be terribly surprised if there are PBs or other unpleasant counter protesters at the suburban protest I'm attending, and if they try to start anything, I plan to launch into "Give peace a Chance" at the top of my lungs (because it sends the right message and is easy to sing and familiar to just about everybody). But I won't be extremely surprised if nothing like that happens. Either way, I'll be prepared!
LauraInLA
(2,154 posts)Torchlight
(4,834 posts)And I think the admin intends to see violence happen regardless of peaceful behavior, flags, optics, or even rule of law.
SayItLoud
(1,763 posts)If there are piles of bricks, stones, marbles, etc. DON'T touch them or go near them. They are planted to provide items to stir violence.
Pass it on to all.
malaise
(285,154 posts)Important
proud patriot
(102,044 posts)it's in the tradition of Gahndi . Spread the word to those around you .
BurnDoubt
(618 posts)They're slavering for the taste of Blood. This is quite possibly "The Storm" they've been brewing.
Not even thinly veiled anymore.
Krasnov has been baying to them.
GenThePerservering
(2,878 posts)please upload them to cloud storage, google drive, whatever in case your phone is lost, confiscated or whatever, you will not lose your evidence. It's fast and easy.
I will not be sitting down, that's crazy. I WILL be backing away and pointing if I see something, and say something.
live love laugh
(15,438 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(240 posts)Help police detain them
Joinfortmill
(18,196 posts)murielm99
(32,014 posts)I want to attend has given us instructions. I will follow those instructions, and not some of the harebrained suggestions here.
We have been told not to engage. We can walk away from counter-protesters, not answer or converse with them. We can turn our backs.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,678 posts)Will do so on other social media sources as well.