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UpInArms

(52,893 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 08:54 AM Wednesday

The food chain will be broken

Everyone knows by now about the 3 meat processing plant raids in Omaha

https://www.ketv.com/article/nebraska-leaders-react-to-immigration-raids-in-omaha/65026064

So, just think about what happens next

1) no skilled meat cutters are waiting at the doors of those plants to continue the work

2) this is work that few others know or are willing to do. It is hard, dangerous and takes a lot of training to do it well and safely

3) cattle farmers plan their herds to go to slaughter years in advance … and they are not thinking about what happens when there are no slaughter houses to take their cattle when they made those breeding and feeding choices

4) once a animal is taken to market, it is ready to slaughter .. no one is going to want to continue to feed it

It may take a few months for all of this to come to the forefront, but, rest assured, there will be a lot of chaos … these are not tomatoes that can be plowed under ..

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The food chain will be broken (Original Post) UpInArms Wednesday OP
What is the time from slaughter to meat counter? lapfog_1 Wednesday #1
Also ... we used to have actual butchers in our grocery stores UpInArms Wednesday #2
Even butchers in the meat markets start with a dressed side of beef or pork. House of Roberts Wednesday #5
The grocery stores often have their own distribution points that do that type of packing radical noodle Wednesday #22
We have light duty butchers in supermarkets here Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #28
Am glad you have that UpInArms Wednesday #29
Great Post, UIA BlueGreenLady Wednesday #3
Interesting Info... LoCo Cat Lady Wednesday #4
"no skilled meat cutters are waiting at the doors of those plants to continue the work" Ray Bruns Wednesday #6
Should this take place, at whatever scale Prairie_Seagull Wednesday #7
I would however point out that moniss Wednesday #14
Soybeans are also animal food UpInArms Wednesday #23
safeway and save mart have full butcher service . AllaN01Bear Wednesday #8
But as House of Roberts said, they start with a dressed side of beef. erronis Wednesday #12
And some safeways have just voted to strike. niyad Wednesday #19
Not my Safeway. nt Nittersing Wednesday #24
At the King Soopers where I shop, beveeheart 16 hrs ago #32
Great post Picaro Wednesday #9
Yes indeed and "planned" scarcity moniss Wednesday #10
Yes, they are definitely planning on there not being nearly enough food for us. Planned starvation. LiberalLoner Wednesday #25
Cripple the FDA and disrupt the meat processors - what could possibly go wrong? Eugenics on full display. NoMoreRepugs Wednesday #11
How did the cattle farmers vote in 2024? In 2020? In 2016? In 2012? In 2008? Orrex Wednesday #13
They all voted for the UpInArms Wednesday #15
And now they're hoping to ride out the storm until Democrats bail them out Orrex Wednesday #16
More people will need to suffer before they get their heads out of their asses. Joinfortmill Wednesday #17
I don't suppose the plant owners will be fined kkmarie Wednesday #18
Time to go vegan. OMGWTF Wednesday #20
I have never felt more sickened than I do today about the quality of our 'leadership' at this moment... Moostache Wednesday #21
Meatheat MAGAts vow to go vegan BoRaGard Wednesday #26
At this point, I'm seriously wondering what the breaking point is going to be. Initech Wednesday #27
There are still some small slaughter and dressing that cater to niche ranching. haele Wednesday #30
It's going to take a while to get to that point. maxsolomon Wednesday #31

lapfog_1

(30,963 posts)
1. What is the time from slaughter to meat counter?
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:05 AM
Wednesday

I think it is just days...

We could see grocery store shortages / price hikes in a week or two.

Even if your meat packing plant is not being raided, do you think that these migrants ( regardless of status ) want to be arrested and detained for weeks or months until they can prove they are here legally or are even citizens? I suspect starting tomorrow, there will be many meat packing places all over the US that have a sudden labor shortage. Not to mention that without a full crew, it is very hard to operated an entire line ( like an assembly line, only for disassembly ).

PETA will be very happy ( right up until they go to buy asparagus or broccoli and find those are in short supply as well ).

Maybe weeks until this shows up... but I think less time.

There was a film... A day without a Mexican??? We are about to see it in practice.

UpInArms

(52,893 posts)
2. Also ... we used to have actual butchers in our grocery stores
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 09:10 AM
Wednesday

They are a thing of the past … everything comes to the store under cellophane… precut and packaged ..

That will be gone

House of Roberts

(6,056 posts)
5. Even butchers in the meat markets start with a dressed side of beef or pork.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:34 AM
Wednesday

They don't slaughter on the hoof behind the building. The health departments would have a fit about that.

radical noodle

(10,224 posts)
22. The grocery stores often have their own distribution points that do that type of packing
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 12:22 PM
Wednesday

Most meat packers (kill & cut) don't do the small cuts or wrapping.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,338 posts)
28. We have light duty butchers in supermarkets here
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Wednesday

Cut up chops from larger racks, make roasts, trim, make ground beef, etc.. Only about 10% of meat comes pre-packaged here.

UpInArms

(52,893 posts)
29. Am glad you have that
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:14 PM
Wednesday

I will say, those butchers do not kill the animals or do the initial work …

They receive their “parts” from a slaughter house

LoCo Cat Lady

(78 posts)
4. Interesting Info...
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:27 AM
Wednesday

this may help with the "shop fresh, shop local" push that has been going on for years. I live in rural northern VA and we have producers/growers/processors here and in neighboring MD. But for those folks not in rural areas or that have access to locally grown, it could be ugly.

Ray Bruns

(5,271 posts)
6. "no skilled meat cutters are waiting at the doors of those plants to continue the work"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:38 AM
Wednesday

You mean there aren’t lines of people waiting for jobs working in a slaughterhouse?

Prairie_Seagull

(4,245 posts)
7. Should this take place, at whatever scale
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:07 AM
Wednesday

prices will skyrocket, in fact all agricultural products will likely skyrocket.

I don't need to tell the folks here but we live in MADDENING and becoming DANGEROUS times.

Need more Valium.

moniss

(7,441 posts)
14. I would however point out that
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:31 AM
Wednesday

corn moves in relation to demand and when the futures market craters because the beef and pork farmers are cutting way back on the number of animals on feed it will have that effect. The corn farmers will scream bloody murder and push for Crumb The 1st to give them massive taxpayer money as price "supports". USDA has one of it's most watched indicators that tracks animals on feed. All levels of the supply chain use indicators like this for their planning.

As the OP stated when an animal gets to a certain point of growth and ready for slaughter every day that shipping to slaughter is delayed means having to put more and more cost into feeding the animal, vet bills etc. and the profit goes down. It doesn't take long before you are running in the red by keeping them alive. What has been done in the past by many ranchers was to shoot the animals and bury them in mass graves.

UpInArms

(52,893 posts)
23. Soybeans are also animal food
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 01:21 PM
Wednesday

With the lack of exports because of tariffs, and fewer animals to feed … the monoculture farmers will definitely be in a world of hurt

erronis

(20,099 posts)
12. But as House of Roberts said, they start with a dressed side of beef.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:22 AM
Wednesday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220385891#post5

I haven't seen many on-the-hoof cattle wandering in the back door of our local supermarkets....

beveeheart

(1,484 posts)
32. At the King Soopers where I shop,
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 01:01 PM
16 hrs ago

they wouldn't even cut the prime rib roast meat from the (3) ribs and tie it like they used to.

Picaro

(2,028 posts)
9. Great post
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:15 AM
Wednesday

Trump’s regime is creating the potential for famine in the US. If you take out the labor infrastructure the food chain collapses.

A larger and larger percentage of our food will have to imported. Prices will skyrocket. Huge numbers of people will be unable to buy food and will begin to literally starve. Food riots will break out.

Farmers will be unable to continue and will have to sell their farms, but there might be few buyers.

Feedlots will be filled with starving cattle.

The seeds of the next Great Depression are being sown today.

moniss

(7,441 posts)
10. Yes indeed and "planned" scarcity
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
Wednesday

of basic foods is a standard move by authoritarians. The idea is to make people dependent on the regime for the availability of the basics.

LiberalLoner

(11,340 posts)
25. Yes, they are definitely planning on there not being nearly enough food for us. Planned starvation.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 03:58 PM
Wednesday

NoMoreRepugs

(11,391 posts)
11. Cripple the FDA and disrupt the meat processors - what could possibly go wrong? Eugenics on full display.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:22 AM
Wednesday

kkmarie

(185 posts)
18. I don't suppose the plant owners will be fined
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:45 AM
Wednesday

It seems simple if you're part of this regime and you hate immigrants then you fine the people who hire them. No jobs would mean a reduction in immigrant labor.

Moostache

(10,578 posts)
21. I have never felt more sickened than I do today about the quality of our 'leadership' at this moment...
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 11:55 AM
Wednesday

Ideologues and hate preachers like Miller or Noem or Trump or ake your fucking pick...fools leading imbeciles leading a circle jerk of hatred and greivance? What could possibly go wrong?

NOTE TO ALL - I would get VERY used to cooking meat until it is WELL-DONE without exceptions. To do otherwise will be gambling with your health or even the lives of yorself or your loved ones.

There is no bottom...

haele

(14,283 posts)
30. There are still some small slaughter and dressing that cater to niche ranching.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Wednesday

I know a family run small, humane organic ranch that uses a "tail to squeak" regional rendering operation that also provides hide, tallow, bone and other break down pieces/parts to other local crafts or manufacturing so nothing goes to waste. It really is a skilled, though off-putting, trade.
However, those are very specialized regional operations typically won't handle more than a couple dozen or so cows and pigs, or maybe 100 birds (chickens, turkey, ducks) a day. Enough to supply a farmer's market, storefront, or a few local bistros at the end of a week, but a town or city?
Again, we're looking at jobs 70% of US citizens would actively refuse to do, no matter how desperate for a job they might be.
Average folks keep talking about wanting to bring back manufacturing and agriculture, but they don't want their kids - or their neighbors, for that matter - employed in those low class jobs. They want their kids to be moneymakers, not hard working drones ..

maxsolomon

(36,651 posts)
31. It's going to take a while to get to that point.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Wednesday

But yes, it all migrant agricultural labor (or even just a third of it) is arrested and deported, then the impact will precipitate a crisis.

I'd imagine that Big Ag and Meatpacker Trump Donors are petitioning his lardship for exemptions.

Central Washington State will collapse without Latino fruit pickers.

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