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(55,214 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:48 PM Tuesday

Anyone else pissed at the election of 1876?

The good guys (republicans, in those days) got Hayes as president, a temporary win, in exchange for permanently ending reconstruction in the house, which enabled Jim Crow and the kkk.

If only the north had finished the job of stamping out racism and confederate nostalgia and such.

How different America might have been....

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Anyone else pissed at the election of 1876? (Original Post) unblock Tuesday OP
Would we have had the New Deal without the Southern, racist vote? Kaleva Tuesday #1
Yes, we would have Pototan Tuesday #13
The New Deal had to be passed by Congress Kaleva Tuesday #15
They wouldn't have been there Pototan 20 hrs ago #16
Who would have been Republicans Kaleva 19 hrs ago #17
It was a stolen election for sure Polybius Tuesday #2
really the "compromise" which followed the election ... eppur_se_muova Tuesday #3
Reconstruction was ending either way ITAL Tuesday #4
Finish the job! flamingdem Tuesday #5
Sufficient unto today are the troubles thereof struggle4progress Tuesday #6
I get it, but as long as people are gonna go back and blame nader and others in the past, unblock Tuesday #7
Amen. nt Wednesdays Tuesday #8
Stamping out thought... GiqueCee Tuesday #9
Anyone else pissed at 1776? IronLionZion Tuesday #10
They even managed to ban slavery before us, which is pretty embarrassing, really, unblock Tuesday #11
1833 for UK IronLionZion Tuesday #14
One of my great-grandfathers was born that year BumRushDaShow Tuesday #12

Pototan

(2,668 posts)
13. Yes, we would have
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 05:42 PM
Tuesday

The election of 1876 would not have stopped the Great Depression and FDR would have won that election because of the economy.

And, besides that, if we stamped out the racists in the South, there would have been a greater number of African American votes, as there would have been less of a migration to the North.

Kaleva

(39,495 posts)
15. The New Deal had to be passed by Congress
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 08:39 PM
Tuesday

Made up partly of Southern white racists who were absolutely loyal to the Democratic Party and any Dem president.

And remember, blacks after the Civil War and for decades later were for the most part, loyal Republicans.

It doesn’t make sense for blacks to be in favor of the party seen as being pro-slavery or at least tolerant of slavery instead of supporting the party of Lincoln.

Blacks didn’t shift to the Democratic Party till the Civil Rights movement.

ITAL

(1,058 posts)
4. Reconstruction was ending either way
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:00 PM
Tuesday

Congress had been taken over by Democrats that were starving funding. Grant had already pulled troops out of all but three states (not only that, he'd made plans to remove them from the rest, but waited till he was gonna be out of the White House...sort of like Trump leaving the last removal of troops from Afghanistan for Biden) and it's not like Tilden was gonna keep it going had he won. It's unfair that the end of Reconstruction is blamed on Hayes.

unblock

(55,214 posts)
7. I get it, but as long as people are gonna go back and blame nader and others in the past,
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:07 PM
Tuesday

I thought I'd have my own fun with it.

History is a source of potential wisdom, but for the most part I'm a very forward-looking person. What's done is done, what can we do to make the best of whatever mess we have.

GiqueCee

(2,338 posts)
9. Stamping out thought...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:41 PM
Tuesday

... no matter how repugnant it might be, is a REAL slippery slope. My hatred of racism and it adherents burns hotter than the surface of the Sun, but we've already seen how right-wing filth can turn even the most well-intentioned idea inside out and weaponize it.

IronLionZion

(49,109 posts)
10. Anyone else pissed at 1776?
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:48 PM
Tuesday

If we had stayed a British colony, we could very well be like Canada or Australia or New Zealand today.

unblock

(55,214 posts)
11. They even managed to ban slavery before us, which is pretty embarrassing, really,
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 05:08 PM
Tuesday

Though unclear if that would have happened had we remained part of the British empire...

IronLionZion

(49,109 posts)
14. 1833 for UK
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 05:53 PM
Tuesday

1888 for Brazil, the last country in the western hemisphere to abolish slavery.

Slavery is more recent than people may think. Mauritania is the last country in the world to abolish slavery by presidential decree (like an executive order) in 1981, but didn't have any law for that until 2007.

BumRushDaShow

(154,202 posts)
12. One of my great-grandfathers was born that year
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 05:31 PM
Tuesday

When the WWI draft cards were being released to search through "for free" for a limited time by Ancestry.com, I spotted one for him. He was at the top of the age range being 41 and most likely didn't serve but still... That was the Centennial year and "too much progress" happened.

These guys were in the 41st & 42nd Congress (1869 - 1873) -



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