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CousinIT

(11,474 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:01 PM Tuesday

When they tell you that they no longer believe in our Democratic Republic . . .

Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

. . . or the US Constitution and that they intend to replace it with an authoritarian dictatorship, hoping you won't notice, believe them...




EDIT UPON REQUEST. This is NOT an exact quote and is misleading - sort of. But not really!

The actual quote is:

“America cannot function if President Trump, or any president for that matter, has their sensitive diplomatic or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges.”

https://www.wwlp.com/hill-politics/white-house-blasts-rulings-on-tariffs-the-courts-should-have-no-role-here/

So, it DOES appear that her attitude is that the Judicial branch has no role in checking the power of the Executive in our Constitutional Republic in any context whatsoever - trade, immigration - anything. If that's the case, then WE DON'T HAVE A REPUBLIC.

And that is what Trump, Leavitt, and this entire crime syndicate are trying to change right under our noses, hoping no one will notice.

I'M NOTICING.

Leavitt has blasted judges for checking Trump's power on tariffs, on immigration, on EVERYTHING so far. EVERYTHING.

Someone should ask her: "In what context do you believe judges in America can check or curtail the power of the President?". I suspect her answer would be very interesting because it's clear that she believes that there is no context in which judges can do that.

SO, while it is clear she didn't say what the quote in this OP implies in those same words, THAT IS HER ATTITUDE. And it is Trump's attitude.

FACT: The Constitution was written so that the Judicial Branch could check the power of the Executive and the Legislative Branches. Likewise, the other two branches can check the power of the remaining two. That is their role in our Constitutional Republic. She is insisting that it is not their role. But it is and always has been since this country was founded. If that is no longer their role, as she insists, then we HAVE NO REPUBLIC.

IS THERE A REASON the media cannot say this? Because they're not. BUT I AM.

It's a valid complaint that the quote is not verbatim ie: she didn't say that exactly. I appreciate that DUers caught that, and that's why I'm correcting this post - but I am not removing it because people need to recognize what's going on here. The intent is precisely the same, even if the words differ.

SHE DID SAY THAT and has been saying it for quite a while now.

As explained below, we can see that she is pretty much saying the same thing as the quote above, though not verbatim.

"Leavitt has repeatedly claimed that federal judges have no jurisdiction over the president’s ability to conduct foreign policy matters, rendering them powerless to rule against his illegal deportation policies. Earlier this week, Trump asked the Supreme Court to back up the administration’s efforts to remove immigrants to countries where they did not originate, after a federal judge ruled that he couldn’t deport individuals to South Sudan if they weren’t from there. Leavitt has also railed against the judge who paused Trump’s deportations under the Alien Enemies Act."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/karoline-leavitt-says-judges-shouldn-t-have-power-over-trump/ar-AA1FJGvR

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When they tell you that they no longer believe in our Democratic Republic . . . (Original Post) CousinIT Tuesday OP
"America" ceases to exist without balance of power. nt intrepidity Tuesday #1
Every other president did just that, Karoline. greatauntoftriplets Tuesday #2
Exactly.. Stop Gaslighting, Toady. Traitor Can't Cha Tuesday #34
America was fine without this tangerine tyrant for 240 years. House of Roberts Tuesday #3
Traitor rickyhall Tuesday #4
Did she really say that? skydive forever Tuesday #5
Was the quote altered KentuckyWoman Tuesday #6
But that's an ESSENTIAL. That's what we NEED! calimary Tuesday #7
Barbie Karoline we have a constitution and it law states THREE CO EQUAL BRANCHES of government with checks and kimbutgar Tuesday #8
Holy shit did she really say that?!? angrychair Tuesday #9
Scary! elliesmandt Tuesday #10
Fuck this shit. hadEnuf Tuesday #11
Did she say that? Cirsium Tuesday #12
Much as I despise her, that is NOT an exact quote. Here's the original: chia Tuesday #13
Does that mean something different? I don't think it does. Judges are judicial branch. CousinIT Tuesday #20
When you post a quote with quotation marks around it, it's understood to be an exact quote. chia Tuesday #25
Thanks. This is a very important point, and we shouldn't descend into the realm off fabrication and fakery. TheRickles Tuesday #27
It's DEFINITELY not as blatant, and it shouldn't be in quotation marks if it's not a quotation. This makes us look dumb LauraInLA Tuesday #28
Hair-splitting? czarjak Tuesday #14
She means "America" can't become completely white." ananda Tuesday #15
Fake quote JoseBalow Tuesday #16
Her entire whining rant, condensed, says that. niyad Tuesday #21
Pretty much CousinIT Tuesday #35
welp. she said it out loud. travelingthrulife Tuesday #17
Translation: Trump can't function as dictator with co-equal branches of government putting a check on his power. patphil Tuesday #18
IOW, the convicted felon wants to be the King of America. Justice matters. Tuesday #41
Then Trump isn't fit to be president Ohioboy Tuesday #19
They deserve to be fucking overthrown for being stupid enough to say it out loud, let alone mean it. Karasu Tuesday #22
The orange convict and his crew are domestic enemies. LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! nt Hotler Tuesday #23
Her nose looks fake IronLionZion Tuesday #24
Is there a link to this quote? I want to share this everywhere!!! LauraInLA Tuesday #26
it is not a real quote. the op edited the post but left up the pic of the fake quote. nt orleans Tuesday #38
Hey idiot Grim Chieftain Tuesday #29
Is this comment for real? vapor2 Tuesday #30
Oh, KKKaroline, NO!!!!! You FLUNKED US Government!!!!! Clearly NOT qualified!!!!! You're FIRED!!!!! BurnDoubt Tuesday #31
She's told what to say PortTack Tuesday #32
Those Fucking Treasonous *******.. Tough Shite Toady. Cha Tuesday #33
'' ... because the crude Constitution doesn't trust him ...'' ... aggiesal Tuesday #36
It's what dictator mouth pieces say. We are on our way to it and must organize to combat the real "enemy within.". nt Evolve Dammit Tuesday #37
Tell me you have no use for democracy without saying you have no use for democracy. n/t Beartracks Tuesday #39
the MEdia can't 'let drumpf go.' he's their baby, like GWB. pansypoo53219 Tuesday #40
Republicans have been saying they don't believe in democracy for a very long time dlk Tuesday #42
That's true. I have those MAGAts in my family. They as much as said so. CousinIT 13 hrs ago #45
They have no idea what they're asking for dlk 10 hrs ago #46
If he cannot rule with thin the system HarryM 15 hrs ago #43
This is "blind faith" Nigrum Cattus 15 hrs ago #44

House of Roberts

(6,054 posts)
3. America was fine without this tangerine tyrant for 240 years.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:19 PM
Tuesday

What you mean to say is 'Trump can't get his way all the time if he is thwarted by co-equal branches of government'.

calimary

(86,605 posts)
7. But that's an ESSENTIAL. That's what we NEED!
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:42 PM
Tuesday

And rather desperately!

SOMEBODY has to be in a position to check his power. Always AND forever!

kimbutgar

(25,285 posts)
8. Barbie Karoline we have a constitution and it law states THREE CO EQUAL BRANCHES of government with checks and
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:43 PM
Tuesday

Balances. but I guess you never learned that in high school !


I taught that recently to 4th graders at a school I substitute teach at!

angrychair

(10,708 posts)
9. Holy shit did she really say that?!?
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:49 PM
Tuesday

That is completely insane if real. Like batshit crazy, completely off the rails, insane

elliesmandt

(37 posts)
10. Scary!
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:01 PM
Tuesday

If she actually made that statement, that's one of the most frightening concepts ever voiced.

chia

(2,560 posts)
13. Much as I despise her, that is NOT an exact quote. Here's the original:
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:18 PM
Tuesday

“America cannot function if President Trump, or any president for that matter, has their sensitive diplomatic or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges.”

https://www.wwlp.com/hill-politics/white-house-blasts-rulings-on-tariffs-the-courts-should-have-no-role-here/

CousinIT

(11,474 posts)
20. Does that mean something different? I don't think it does. Judges are judicial branch.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:42 PM
Tuesday

They can check the power of the Executive or the Legislative. That is their role in our Republic and according to the Constitution. She is insisting that it is not their role. But it is and always has been since this country was founded.

So, she is pretty much saying the same thing.

EDIT: adding more context to her assertions (it's clear that she thinks the Judicial branch has no power over the Executive in any context. This is unconstitutional and a statement supporting dictatorship):

"Leavitt has repeatedly claimed that federal judges have no jurisdiction over the president’s ability to conduct foreign policy matters, rendering them powerless to rule against his illegal deportation policies. Earlier this week, Trump asked the Supreme Court to back up the administration’s efforts to remove immigrants to countries where they did not originate, after a federal judge ruled that he couldn’t deport individuals to South Sudan if they weren’t from there. Leavitt has also railed against the judge who paused Trump’s deportations under the Alien Enemies Act."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/karoline-leavitt-says-judges-shouldn-t-have-power-over-trump/ar-AA1FJGvR

chia

(2,560 posts)
25. When you post a quote with quotation marks around it, it's understood to be an exact quote.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:08 PM
Tuesday

I'm not disagreeing with the take on her overall opinion - if it had been offered as a summary or synopsis.

When it's offered as a direct quote, and the quote is partially not her own words, then the quote is not authentic.

If we don't want to fall into the lazy fake meme quotes of the right, we need to authenticate what we provide as a direct quote.

TheRickles

(2,781 posts)
27. Thanks. This is a very important point, and we shouldn't descend into the realm off fabrication and fakery.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:17 PM
Tuesday

LauraInLA

(2,144 posts)
28. It's DEFINITELY not as blatant, and it shouldn't be in quotation marks if it's not a quotation. This makes us look dumb
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:18 PM
Tuesday

CousinIT

(11,474 posts)
35. Pretty much
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:50 PM
Tuesday

The actual quote is:

“America cannot function if President Trump, or any president for that matter, has their sensitive diplomatic or trade negotiations railroaded by activist judges.”

https://www.wwlp.com/hill-politics/white-house-blasts-rulings-on-tariffs-the-courts-should-have-no-role-here/

So, it DOES appear that her attitude is that the Judicial branch has no role in checking the power of the Executive in our Constitutional Republic in any context whatsoever - trade, immigration - anything. If that's the case, then WE DON'T HAVE A REPUBLIC.

And that is what Trump, Leavitt, and this entire crime syndicate are trying to change right under our noses, hoping no one will notice.

I'M NOTICING.

Leavitt has blasted judges for checking Trump's power on tariffs, on immigration, on EVERYTHING so far. EVERYTHING.

Someone should ask her: "In what context do you believe judges in America can check or curtail the power of the President?". I suspect her answer would be very interesting because it's clear that she believes that there is no context in which judges can do that.

SO, while it is clear she didn't say what the quote in this OP implies in those same words, THAT IS HER ATTITUDE. And it is Trump's attitude.

FACT: The Constitution was written so that the Judicial Branch could check the power of the Executive and the Legislative Branches. Likewise, the other two branches can check the power of the remaining two. That is their role in our Constitutional Republic. She is insisting that it is not their role. But it is and always has been since this country was founded. If that is no longer their role, as she insists, then we HAVE NO REPUBLIC.

IS THERE A REASON the media cannot say this? Because they're not. BUT I AM.

It's a valid complaint that the quote is not verbatim ie: she didn't say that exactly. I appreciate that DUers caught that, and that's why I'm correcting this post - but I am not removing it because people need to recognize what's going on here. The intent is precisely the same, even if the words differ.

SHE DID SAY THAT and has been saying it for quite a while now.

As explained below, we can see that she is pretty much saying the same thing as the quote above, though not verbatim.

"Leavitt has repeatedly claimed that federal judges have no jurisdiction over the president’s ability to conduct foreign policy matters, rendering them powerless to rule against his illegal deportation policies. Earlier this week, Trump asked the Supreme Court to back up the administration’s efforts to remove immigrants to countries where they did not originate, after a federal judge ruled that he couldn’t deport individuals to South Sudan if they weren’t from there. Leavitt has also railed against the judge who paused Trump’s deportations under the Alien Enemies Act."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/karoline-leavitt-says-judges-shouldn-t-have-power-over-trump/ar-AA1FJGvR

patphil

(7,929 posts)
18. Translation: Trump can't function as dictator with co-equal branches of government putting a check on his power.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:36 PM
Tuesday

So the Constitution has to go away so that Trump can wield the power he should have as president.

Justice matters.

(8,418 posts)
41. IOW, the convicted felon wants to be the King of America.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 10:56 PM
Tuesday

With no checks and balances, the convicted felon wants to dictate what the law of the land is because he thinks only him, alone, can fix it...

Karasu

(1,334 posts)
22. They deserve to be fucking overthrown for being stupid enough to say it out loud, let alone mean it.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Tuesday

Hotler

(13,189 posts)
23. The orange convict and his crew are domestic enemies. LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! nt
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:02 PM
Tuesday

orleans

(36,098 posts)
38. it is not a real quote. the op edited the post but left up the pic of the fake quote. nt
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 07:23 PM
Tuesday

BurnDoubt

(607 posts)
31. Oh, KKKaroline, NO!!!!! You FLUNKED US Government!!!!! Clearly NOT qualified!!!!! You're FIRED!!!!!
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:29 PM
Tuesday

Cha

(311,732 posts)
33. Those Fucking Treasonous *******.. Tough Shite Toady.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:30 PM
Tuesday

Asshole Can't "Function". Period.

aggiesal

(10,092 posts)
36. '' ... because the crude Constitution doesn't trust him ...'' ...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:05 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2025, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

This statement reminds of this scene from the movie "With Honors". I highly recommend watching it.

Evolve Dammit

(20,765 posts)
37. It's what dictator mouth pieces say. We are on our way to it and must organize to combat the real "enemy within.". nt
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:33 PM
Tuesday

dlk

(12,664 posts)
42. Republicans have been saying they don't believe in democracy for a very long time
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 10:58 PM
Tuesday

Too many people haven’t been paying attention, so now, here we are.

CousinIT

(11,474 posts)
45. That's true. I have those MAGAts in my family. They as much as said so.
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 02:24 PM
13 hrs ago

"Well, maybe we need a dictator!"

Verbatim.

Nigrum Cattus

(616 posts)
44. This is "blind faith"
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
15 hrs ago

ALL the BS in gov now is 100% white "christian" nationalism.
Their magical sky daddy tells them to do this.

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