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senseandsensibility

(22,376 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 05:55 PM 4 hrs ago

I know there's a lot going on right now but this doesn't sound good

RFK just removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the CDC on how vaccines should be used. According to the NYT: "The health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. removed all 17 members of a CDC advisory panel in his latest move to dismantle years of vaccine policy."

So, we're just gonna wing it now?

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I know there's a lot going on right now but this doesn't sound good (Original Post) senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago OP
Yep... FirstLight 4 hrs ago #1
Got a COVID booster today. Was told there will be an updated vaccine in the fall. Intractable 4 hrs ago #2
I'm worried how the VA is gonna handle this shit... Wounded Bear 4 hrs ago #4
Add to that the thousands of employees to be cut from the VA. progressoid 3 hrs ago #24
they do not care Sailingdiver 3 hrs ago #32
Don't I know it. Personally, I've been pretty satisfied with my VA health care... Wounded Bear 2 hrs ago #38
I'll be getting mine! wolfie001 1 hr ago #45
I guess I'll need to arrange to go to the UK or Canada for my future vaccinations. NCDem47 4 hrs ago #3
Going there is probably legal. Coming back may be different. soldierant 26 min ago #48
WTAF!!!!!! a kennedy 4 hrs ago #5
Sure looks like it. ananda 4 hrs ago #17
Yes, actually. Trueblue Texan 3 hrs ago #22
Only some of us COL Mustard 3 hrs ago #27
The situation in L.A. has taken the attention away from many other things yellow dahlia 4 hrs ago #6
Yes senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #7
I agree. yellow dahlia 4 hrs ago #10
If it bleeds, it leads... GiqueCee 4 hrs ago #13
That dude ForgedCrank 4 hrs ago #8
If that worm... GiqueCee 4 hrs ago #16
From the sound of things - DeeDeeNY 3 hrs ago #26
BINGO! GiqueCee 3 hrs ago #31
IDIOCRACY, THE DOCUMENTARY spanone 4 hrs ago #9
The too much to take in part is really dangerous senseandsensibility 4 hrs ago #11
That's a real possibility. spanone 4 hrs ago #19
And I bet the bad guys know it. calimary 3 hrs ago #23
You might have to follow the Canadian's PHAC Bev54 4 hrs ago #12
HE is now the "authority" on vaccines Skittles 4 hrs ago #14
Qanon knows much more about viruses than all these scientists. Kablooie 1 hr ago #44
It's worth repeating... surfered 4 hrs ago #15
Won't be winging it...he'll put in place the whacko medical fringe and have really bad ideas. Canada, here we come! dutch777 4 hrs ago #18
Less than ideal, I'm thinkin'. Tom Dyer 4 hrs ago #20
You and me both senseandsensibility 3 hrs ago #34
Not wing it replaced with 17 conspiracy theorists and loyalists JT45242 4 hrs ago #21
I just read a newsfeed story about this and it said he plans on replacing the fired members. Bet allegorical oracle 3 hrs ago #28
CDC will now rely exclusively AdamGG 3 hrs ago #25
Kennedy is just a terrible, horrible nightmare of an appointee. Janbdwl72 3 hrs ago #30
Medical consultants for RFKJr,.... magicarpet 3 hrs ago #33
Remember, Krasnov hires nothing but the best... lunatics. nt Buns_of_Fire 3 hrs ago #29
Who's ready Just Jerome 3 hrs ago #35
We'll see if Brain Worm's ideas outlast the 4 years of the Republican False Messiah's govt. Dem4life1970 2 hrs ago #36
What I am very upset about is the silence of the medical associations all of them FloridaBlues 2 hrs ago #37
Yes, that is alarming senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago #39
You would think Just Jerome 2 hrs ago #41
No, he'll just appoint a bunch of friends and fellow travelers Tranquil72 2 hrs ago #40
Probably looking to appoint moniss 2 hrs ago #42
Trump did it before Covid broke out LiberalArkie 2 hrs ago #43
Back to the Dark Ages as fast as they can accomplish it. Anti-science, anti-democracy, anti-rule-of-law, Martin68 57 min ago #46
Honestly, would you trust anything comining out of that Dept. under this administration? Buddyzbuddy 48 min ago #47
Did you see Lawrence? yellow dahlia 14 min ago #49

Wounded Bear

(62,115 posts)
4. I'm worried how the VA is gonna handle this shit...
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:04 PM
4 hrs ago

I've been getting regular flu and covid updates every fall. I sure hope that continues.

progressoid

(51,438 posts)
24. Add to that the thousands of employees to be cut from the VA.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:59 PM
3 hrs ago

This is some scary shit!

My dad has had most of his retirement health care through the VA. Sure, it hasn't always been a smooth process. But it beats what he would have gotten from the civilian health care system. He's still kicking at 92!

Sailingdiver

(247 posts)
32. they do not care
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:33 PM
3 hrs ago

The pricks simply do not care about veterans.

They wax poetically about caring but their actions speak volumes.

RFK Jr is a damn disgrace and dangerous.

Wounded Bear

(62,115 posts)
38. Don't I know it. Personally, I've been pretty satisfied with my VA health care...
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 08:05 PM
2 hrs ago

but I'm certainly worried about what trump & co will do going forward.

Basically, I can't afford civilian healthcare, even with Medicare.

wolfie001

(5,222 posts)
45. I'll be getting mine!
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:45 PM
1 hr ago

That lying crank should be ignored if you want to keep yourself and your family safe. Of course, he was put into that position by the nastiest f6ck ever to set foot in the WH.

NCDem47

(2,838 posts)
3. I guess I'll need to arrange to go to the UK or Canada for my future vaccinations.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:02 PM
4 hrs ago

that's if THAT doesnt become illegal.

so, so SAD how Trump has ruined the CDC. a world leader no more.

a kennedy

(33,689 posts)
5. WTAF!!!!!!
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:05 PM
4 hrs ago

We are all gonna die. Is that what this gawd damn dictatorship wants??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

ananda

(32,022 posts)
17. Sure looks like it.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:33 PM
4 hrs ago

They must figure that their policies will hurt non-whites
more than whites.. and that rich white people will be able
to get vaccines and medical care regardless.

Trueblue Texan

(3,367 posts)
22. Yes, actually.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:52 PM
3 hrs ago

Only the compliant and loyal will survive if they have their way. But I doubt "the Left will allow it."

yellow dahlia

(2,498 posts)
6. The situation in L.A. has taken the attention away from many other things
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:07 PM
4 hrs ago

in need of attention.

Eg: The decision by SCOTUS on Friday that it is okay for DOGE hacker punks to have full access to sensitive data at SSA.

And meanwhile, in another decision, SCOTUS also prevented CREW from having FOIA access to what DOGE is doing in their governmental "duties".

senseandsensibility

(22,376 posts)
7. Yes
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:10 PM
4 hrs ago

Frustrating is an understatement. I wish cable news was able to divide their coverage into, say, four main segments. There are at least 4 major outrages a day that need to be addressed. One story, no matter how compelling, should not monopolize the news.

yellow dahlia

(2,498 posts)
10. I agree.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:24 PM
4 hrs ago

It is a pattern of playing to the most sensational. Unfortunately, it facilitates the distractions and "shiny object" tactics of the grifter.

GiqueCee

(2,328 posts)
16. If that worm...
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:33 PM
4 hrs ago

... had stuck around for dessert, we wouldn't have to deal with this raving psychopath.

DeeDeeNY

(3,722 posts)
26. From the sound of things -
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:08 PM
3 hrs ago

It sounds like that brain worm is the one now calling the shots

senseandsensibility

(22,376 posts)
11. The too much to take in part is really dangerous
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:30 PM
4 hrs ago

I'm afraid people will start tuning out because it is just too overwhelming.

Bev54

(12,491 posts)
12. You might have to follow the Canadian's PHAC
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:31 PM
4 hrs ago

that stands for Public Health Agency of Canada. I suspect some of your scientists will end up here as have specialized Doctors and Nurses have.

Kablooie

(18,910 posts)
44. Qanon knows much more about viruses than all these scientists.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:32 PM
1 hr ago

We know that because that’s where the presidents info comes from.

dutch777

(4,536 posts)
18. Won't be winging it...he'll put in place the whacko medical fringe and have really bad ideas. Canada, here we come!
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:37 PM
4 hrs ago

I wouldn't blame them if they wouldn't let us in, but may come down to getting smart, rational med care for some things, like vaccines, may take a trip across the border. If you know what you want/need you can also go to Mexico, every little podunk pharmacy will dispense just about anything to anybody. Can't vouch for the material sourcing but they'll sell it to you. I wonder how the average general practitioner is going to deal with this down the road?

senseandsensibility

(22,376 posts)
34. You and me both
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:41 PM
3 hrs ago

I hope this doesn't fall through the cracks with all the protest stuff. The administration needs to answer for this.

JT45242

(3,376 posts)
21. Not wing it replaced with 17 conspiracy theorists and loyalists
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:49 PM
4 hrs ago

Loyalty to mango Mussolini is the only required reason for any job in the government

allegorical oracle

(5,076 posts)
28. I just read a newsfeed story about this and it said he plans on replacing the fired members. Bet
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:16 PM
3 hrs ago

he doesn't do it.

All these turds want to be the lone voices of their various domains. That keeps them from being answerable to anybody except the fetid fathead. This whole administration gives off the feeling that they're all winging it -- making it up as they go along (or TSF tells them what they should say and do.)

Janbdwl72

(193 posts)
30. Kennedy is just a terrible, horrible nightmare of an appointee.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:22 PM
3 hrs ago

As usual for the Felon's appointees, he lied before the Senate committee during his confirmation hearings. He has continued his anti-vaccine crusades, often in below the headlines ways, since he first took office. He is indeed deplorable.

Any statements he makes saying he will protect the rights of Americans who wisely choose to use vaccines cannot be trusted.

magicarpet

(18,422 posts)
33. Medical consultants for RFKJr,....
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:35 PM
3 hrs ago

Rogan as you said - and Alex Jones,... the most informed and update medical practitioners in the USA.

Buy their supplements from their merch page and you are guaranteed to live until you are 300 years old.

FloridaBlues

(4,559 posts)
37. What I am very upset about is the silence of the medical associations all of them
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:57 PM
2 hrs ago

They are the voices we need to be the loudest on what is happening to CDc , NIH , etc. unfortunately crickets.

Tranquil72

(8 posts)
40. No, he'll just appoint a bunch of friends and fellow travelers
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 08:20 PM
2 hrs ago

It’s not a large group, but enough to fill the seats. And he’ll pretend he’s doing it for the good of people everywhere.

moniss

(7,423 posts)
42. Probably looking to appoint
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 08:23 PM
2 hrs ago

Aaron Rodgers, Joe Rogan, Laura Loomer and a fortune teller to advise him in advance of how it all will go.

Martin68

(25,900 posts)
46. Back to the Dark Ages as fast as they can accomplish it. Anti-science, anti-democracy, anti-rule-of-law,
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:54 PM
57 min ago

anti-constitution, anti-morality, anti-ethics, anti-humanity.

Buddyzbuddy

(980 posts)
47. Honestly, would you trust anything comining out of that Dept. under this administration?
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:04 PM
48 min ago

It's not the researchers or scientists fault.
We should not trust anything coming out of the Whitehouse on down. Unlike the right-wing nutjobs, it's a temporary situation for us, 3.5 years. We know Gov't can and will work when this criminally run regime is out.

yellow dahlia

(2,498 posts)
49. Did you see Lawrence?
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:38 PM
14 min ago

He made several points about how the distraction that the grifter is providing, by creating an issue in LA, is pulling attention away from all the other things that the grifter doesn't want us to see. He also mentioned the RFK firing of vaccine experts at CDC as one of the atrocities that is going on unnoticed, because the media is being distracted.

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