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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWondering how the 45 % of Hispanic males feel about their vote for Trump?
WE TOLD YOU! But moreover, HE TOLD YOU WHAT HE WOULD DO!
How about LGBTQ, Arabs, Ukrainians, and poor rural Americans? Happy with your votes for Trump?
Honest to God: It's like German Jews, Jehova Witnesses, LGBTQ, and immigrants living in Germany in 1933 who voted for Hitler.
How can people be so stupid?

DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,379 posts)Many are part of families who have been here for generations, their ties to their ancestral homelands are basically non existent, many don't really identify as anything other an American, and many dislike the undocumented as much, if not more, then other gop. Some of the most pro deportation people I know are either naturalized citizens themselves, or have parents or grandparents who immigrated years ago.
Vogon_Glory
(9,865 posts)we dont know how many Angelinos whove been arrested or wounded thus far are US citizens. Other Latinos with US citizenship might well shrug their shoulders and say Oh, its just undocumented or Oh, its just those people out in California.
Its not until this ICE cr@p is more widespread and brown-skinned Americans whose forebears have been in the US longer than half of Donald Johns inderlings start feeling nervous that theres going to be a sea-change.
Sorry, Im from Texas, and I lost hope for things getting better here a decade ago. I dont like it. I HATE it. But I have to acknowledge reality.
Paladin
(30,648 posts)And I say that as a Texan, myself.
Democratic leadership needs to get off its dead ass as take advantage of trump's non-stop blunders and missteps, because Orange Julius is in the process of handing this nation back to us on a platter. We just need to be angry enough and brave enough and smart enough to take advantage of it.
dalton99a
(88,819 posts)ecstatic
(34,800 posts)Chasstev365
(5,536 posts)Baitball Blogger
(50,128 posts)Those Cuban Americans who were Batista supporters in the day...do you now understand how these things develop? Batista was bad, Fidel Castro was worse. But Castro came into power because of Batista's autocratic governing style. So, try to dream a little harder and picture a world where the leader is trying to find a balance between people who have different financial needs. It might not be perfect, but it's not what we're dealing with today.
Kaleva
(39,480 posts)In 1932, he had lost the election for President in a landslide running against Hindenburg.
Chasstev365
(5,536 posts)They had to form a collation parliament and they made Hitler the Chancellor. After the Reichstag fire, civil rights were suspended and later in 1934, President Von Hindenburg died in office. This made Hitler President and Chancellor, thus dictator.
Are you satisfied now?
Kaleva
(39,480 posts)Not the Reichstag.
Chasstev365
(5,536 posts)BTW It's von Hindenburg; get it right!
Do you live for hair splitting? We're done here!
Celerity
(50,231 posts)Chasstev365
(5,536 posts)Kaleva
(39,480 posts)Hindenburg was popular with the German people as shown by his landslide win over Hitler in the 1932 presidential election. Furthermore, Hindenburg had the complete backing of the German Army.
Chasstev365
(5,536 posts)You are so smart! Now get a life!
Celerity
(50,231 posts)newdeal2
(2,759 posts)I have seen this with other minorities who voted for Trump. They want to pretend like theyre better and that theyll be let into Mar-a-lago.
Jspur
(718 posts)by White America is why they voted for Trump. I have a good friend who lived in Dallas, Texas for several years. He moved away from Dallas a few years ago but I remember him telling me for years that the Democrats would never win Texas and he's actually a Democrat. His reasoning was that they are so many Hispanics he had interactions with whether it was at work or at other places that really believed they were white and were down with GOP policies. They really believed they were part of the white community and actually had hatred for illegal immigrants because they felt they were not like them and didn't want whites to look down on them. He also said a lot of them whether it's first generation or second generation tended to shun their culture and usually eventually end up marrying white partners which in his eyes was another sign that they desperately wanted white acceptance.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,379 posts)A large portion of Hispanic's do not consider themselves any different then white middle class Americans. This is partially why our voting share of them has gotten worse election after election. Our perceived focus on Hispanic=immigration issues has alienated them. They don't care about undocumented, they welcome deportations, and the thought of "maybe they will care when a family member is deported" makes no sense to them because they don't have any family who are immigrants. By 2nd/3rd generation basically their entire known family are citizens.
AntiFascist
(13,315 posts)there are descendants of Spanish land grant families that have been in the US longer than many of the rest of our ancestral families.
Polybius
(20,145 posts)He still has zero regrets, probably because he can't be deported.
haele
(14,260 posts)Came over legally, working hard and "taking the time to do it right", undocumented Immigrants are trying to short cut the system.
That if you aren't doing it the same way they, dad, or grand dad did, you're basically a lesser criminal who is disrespecting and cheating them.
Even though most of them or their parents came over under the Braceros program or under working visas that were much easier to get, or received amnesty under various 1980's and 1990's programs.
These "criminals" include undocumented spouses with US citizen children, people overstaying visas for medical or economic reasons, the flood of asylum seekers...
According to many Hispanic citizens, immigrants need to go back to the "shithole" they came from and if they want to work in the US, they need to wait the 3 to 7 years to "do it the right way" and become citizens .
Oh, and DOGE found over 2 million undocumented people with Social Security accounts...