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DoBW

(2,535 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:19 PM Yesterday

reminder about "orders"

If you are an active member of the national guard or the US military and are ordered to violate the constitutional rights of anyone on US soil, call the GI Rights Hotline. You swore an oath to support and defend the US constitution and do not have to follow unlawful orders.

877-447-4487

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reminder about "orders" (Original Post) DoBW Yesterday OP
Please. You are the ones needed now to uphold our Constitution. Clouds Passing Yesterday #1
Absolutely! SheltieLover Yesterday #3
Kick! SheltieLover Yesterday #2
Hope it works. But think military leans right with lots of racists/bigots who hope to be promoted Silent Type Yesterday #4
The National Guard isn't the same as career Army... regnaD kciN Yesterday #6
47 and his thug regime are the domestic enemies of the US the constitution warned us about. Initech Yesterday #5
It more difficult than that LogDog75 Yesterday #7

Silent Type

(9,839 posts)
4. Hope it works. But think military leans right with lots of racists/bigots who hope to be promoted
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:35 PM
Yesterday

to Henchman First Class in trump’s military.

regnaD kciN

(27,084 posts)
6. The National Guard isn't the same as career Army...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:51 PM
Yesterday

…but I have a hard time imaging a Guardsman, upon receiving an order to move on protesters, pulling out their cellphone and asking the CO to wait a minute while they call to check.

Initech

(105,132 posts)
5. 47 and his thug regime are the domestic enemies of the US the constitution warned us about.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:42 PM
Yesterday

LogDog75

(489 posts)
7. It more difficult than that
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:08 PM
Yesterday

Military members have the right to question unlawful orders and the right refuse to obey obviously illegal orders. The problem being is the average military member doesn't have knowledge or training to determine whether an order is legal or not.

An obvious illegal order is to pull a demonstrator off the street and execute them and I hope they would refuse the order. In the case of the demonstrations in LA., the National Guard take orders from the governor and from the president when he nationalizes the Guard. It's up to the leaders of the Guard to make the determination as to whether the orders from the governor or the president are lawful and provide their troops with the appropriate guidance.

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