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LAS14

(15,229 posts)
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 01:35 PM Jun 1

Examples of AS (Artificial Stupidity)

I hope this thread will become a repository of examples of AI hallucinations. We need to understand this newcomer to our lives as well as we can. Please add your own examples when you bump into them.

Google's AI summary.

Prompt: What is the etymology of the word "vagina?"

Result: The word "vagina" originates from the Latin word "vagina ," which means "sheath" or "scabbard." This is because the vagina is a muscular tube that encloses and protects the female reproductive organs.

Note: I reproduced this myself. Got the same result. Think of all the curious children who are going to be wrestling with this misunderstanding for years!

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Examples of AS (Artificial Stupidity) (Original Post) LAS14 Jun 1 OP
Will I be able to recognize most AI crap? vapor2 Jun 1 #1
"We already own the rights to 'Natural Stupidity.' So don't get any ideas." - magatland repubes BoRaGard Jun 1 #2
Where's the "hallucination"? That is the etymology of the word. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 1 #3
Your understanding of "enclose" is quite different from mine. LAS14 Jun 1 #4
It doesn't "enclose" any organs. Crunchy Frog Jun 1 #8
👀 Nimble_Idea Jun 1 #9
Car doors open, but are closed 99% of the time, enclosing the passengers/contents. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 1 #10
A vagina is a tube. A car door isn't. Crunchy Frog Jun 1 #11
We are talking function, not form. Poor analogy to distract with form. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 1 #12
Unfortunately, you picked a poor example. MineralMan Jun 1 #5
OK, so the false info that AI supplied was irrelevant to the query. LAS14 Jun 1 #6
The information was not false, it was complete to what you asked, but incomplete to what you wanted Bernardo de La Paz Jun 1 #7
I can't believe this thread has gone in this direction. nt LAS14 Jun 1 #13
It started with a faulty premise TheProle Jun 1 #14
How could you make "What is the etymology of the word 'vagina'" more clear? nt LAS14 Jun 1 #16
Many humans would have provided MineralMan Jun 1 #15
Like I said, a weird path for this thread, but, to answer your post... LAS14 Jun 1 #17
But, it does that, too. MineralMan Jun 1 #18
Oh, for crying out loud. It provides access, not blockage. It certainly doesn't "enclose." nt LAS14 Jun 1 #19
I'm done here. MineralMan Jun 1 #20
The labia BeerBarrelPolka Jun 1 #21
False dichotomy. Access does not prohibit enclosure occurring. Enclosure does not deny access forever Bernardo de La Paz Jun 1 #22
You can't actually "close" your vagina Crunchy Frog Jun 2 #24
Again with the all-or-nothing thinking. There are degees of closure. A locked car door can be opened w a crowbar Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2 #25
I don't actually have the capacity to "close" my vagina Crunchy Frog Jun 2 #26
Again, closing does not mean sealing or require sealing or locking. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2 #27
The anus actually has a sphincter muscle Crunchy Frog Jun 2 #28
The anus is voluntary and involuntary, like breathing is voluntary and involuntary. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2 #29
You wrote this: BeerBarrelPolka Jun 3 #32
It should have gone in a worse direction. Igel Jun 1 #23
I'm getting the feeling Retrograde Jun 3 #30
Another example: Google AI claiming that a white man is actually black. W_HAMILTON Jun 3 #31

BoRaGard

(5,691 posts)
2. "We already own the rights to 'Natural Stupidity.' So don't get any ideas." - magatland repubes
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jun 1

"Our specialty is voting against our own interests. Ha ha.
We are our own suckers. Ha ha." - - magatland repubes

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
3. Where's the "hallucination"? That is the etymology of the word.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:21 PM
Jun 1
Online Etymology Dictionary

https://www.etymonline.com › word › vagina
Vagina - Etymology, Origin & Meaning - Etymonline
"sexual passage of the female from the vulva to the uterus," 1680s, medical Latin, from specialized use of Latin vagina "sheath, scabbard, covering; sheath of an ear of grain, hull, husk" (plural vaginae), a word of uncertain origin.

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Vagina
Vagina - Wikipedia
The term vagina is from Latin vāgīna, meaning "sheath" or "scabbard". [1] The vagina may also be referred to as the birth canal in the context of pregnancy and childbirth. [2] [3] Although by its dictionary and anatomical definitions, the term vagina refers exclusively to the specific internal structure, it is colloquially used to refer to the vulva or to both the vagina and vulva.


When it is closed ("encloses" ) it protects the internal organs.

That it does not mention other functions and uses does not mean it is wrong or stupid. If you want to get a reference to other uses, ask a more appropriate prompt.

There is much stupidity in composing a dead-simple prompt and expecting it to do more than what was asked. Neither human experts nor AI programs are mind readers.

If you want porn, ask for porn. If you want etymology, ask for etymology.

LAS14

(15,229 posts)
4. Your understanding of "enclose" is quite different from mine.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jun 1

Far from enclosing and protecting, it provides access to, for nefarious as well as benign purposes.

Crunchy Frog

(27,634 posts)
8. It doesn't "enclose" any organs.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jun 1

It's a passageway enabling the passage of menstrual blood, penises and sperm, babies, and...various other things that you might wish to put up there.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
10. Car doors open, but are closed 99% of the time, enclosing the passengers/contents.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jun 1

Just because something opens does not mean it does not enclose.

MineralMan

(149,215 posts)
5. Unfortunately, you picked a poor example.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jun 1

While the explanation of the etymology is not complete, it contains the actual relationship of the word and its principal meaning in Latin.

That is the source of the word. That the vagina has additional functions is not relevant to the etymology.

LAS14

(15,229 posts)
6. OK, so the false info that AI supplied was irrelevant to the query.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jun 1

That makes it twice as stupid. False info that was irrelevant to boot.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
7. The information was not false, it was complete to what you asked, but incomplete to what you wanted
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jun 1

If you want to read about sexual relations, you need to ask about sexual relations. The AI can't read your mind about your thirst for that topic.

TheProle

(3,413 posts)
14. It started with a faulty premise
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 04:57 PM
Jun 1

The quality of AI output relies as much on a clear prompt as it does sufficient training.

MineralMan

(149,215 posts)
15. Many humans would have provided
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jun 1

Last edited Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Equally flawed answers. I would have stopped with the "sheath" example. In reality the word comes into English because it is a sheath or scabbard for the penis, quite frankly. That is the etymology. It's not a value determination. It is a derivation of a word.

And that's that. That's how mammals reproduce. Males have a penis. Females have a vagina. The penis goes in the vagina. It leaves semen in there, full of sperm cells. The egg gets fertilized and reproduction happens.
The vagina also protects by being a barrier to bar bacteria, etc. It's a self-cleaning thing.

And with that, the etymological and biological lecture is over.

LAS14

(15,229 posts)
17. Like I said, a weird path for this thread, but, to answer your post...
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 05:53 PM
Jun 1

I have no problem at all with the etymology provided by Google. You seem to think that's what I was complaining about.

I have a problem with the definition Google provided (without being asked, it's true), "This is because the vagina is a muscular tube that encloses and protects the female reproductive organs." I was counting on any DUer to recognize that this is absurd.

MineralMan

(149,215 posts)
18. But, it does that, too.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jun 1

It blocks many things from getting to the internal organs. All orifices are protective, via self-cleaning mucus membranes or physical barriers. A very important function.

LAS14

(15,229 posts)
19. Oh, for crying out loud. It provides access, not blockage. It certainly doesn't "enclose." nt
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jun 1

MineralMan

(149,215 posts)
20. I'm done here.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jun 1

It is also a barrier. Fact. All body openings have a protective function, too. All of them otherwise, we would always have infections. The vagina and cervix protect the uterus, fallopian tubes and uterus. Fact.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
22. False dichotomy. Access does not prohibit enclosure occurring. Enclosure does not deny access forever
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jun 1

A jar lid encloses the jam, but opens to provide access. Likewise the vagina encloses the cervix but it opens to provide access.

Avoid the fallacy of binary thinking. You have proposed a false dichotomy: that access forbids enclosure and that enclosure forbids access. Jar lids and vaginas are not fixed in one position for all time.

Women control their vaginas. Their brains send neural signals to the muscles of the vagina to control its state. When a woman chooses to close hers, the vagina certainly does provide blockage.

It is my sincere hope that you support a woman's right to choose to close her vagina and block penetration when she wishes.

Crunchy Frog

(27,634 posts)
24. You can't actually "close" your vagina
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jun 2

to block penetration. If that were possible, rape wouldn't be a problem. Yes, you can tighten or relax the muscles of the pelvic floor, but that doesn't block penetration.

I think there are a lot of men who have very little understanding of women's anatomy and how it works.

I definitely support a woman's right to block penetration by saying "no" and having that respected.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
25. Again with the all-or-nothing thinking. There are degees of closure. A locked car door can be opened w a crowbar
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:05 PM
Jun 2

There are:

* closed like Fort Knox
* closed like an unlocked door
* closed like a pet door flap
* closed like a curtain
* closed like a book
* closed to non-members

etc.

Crunchy Frog

(27,634 posts)
26. I don't actually have the capacity to "close" my vagina
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jun 2

using voluntary muscle activity. Even in cases of vaginismus, it's not a voluntary choice to "close" the vagina.

No wonder so many men think that women should be able to "hold" their periods until they get to a toilet or something, and get angry if they bleed somewhere inconvenient.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
27. Again, closing does not mean sealing or require sealing or locking.
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:51 PM
Jun 2

Likewise a closed car door is rain-resistant but not air-tight or sealed.

An anus can close to hold a solid stool, but not necessarily watery diarrhea. But we can still "close" it even though it is not sealed.

Binary all-or-nothing thinking is very pervasive. It is the basis of all -isms, especially those with purity tests. It is at the core of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."


C: A door can be closed.
D: But a closed door can let floodwater in underneath. It's not really closed.
C: Yes, it is closed. Really. It's just not sealed.

E: You are either pregnant or not. There is no in-between.
F: You can be a little bit pregnant (just starting to show a bump) or very pregnant (massive round belly). You can be pregnant with an implanted fertilized egg cell, with an embryo, with a fetus, in the middle of the middle trimester, etc. All are "pregnant" but to varying degrees. A woman can be pregnant and not showing anything for a long time.

Crunchy Frog

(27,634 posts)
28. The anus actually has a sphincter muscle
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 09:57 PM
Jun 2

that keeps it tightly closed, even in the event of watery diarrhea. It's not a voluntary muscle either.

I didn't read the rest of your post because I found it irrelevant and silly.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,320 posts)
29. The anus is voluntary and involuntary, like breathing is voluntary and involuntary.
Mon Jun 2, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jun 2

Regardless of whether a body orifice has floor muscles or ring muscles or jaw muscles, it can be voluntarily closed to prevent things from falling out and opened to let things in or out.

This question arose because of the claim in the OP that the vagina 'doesn't enclose internal organs'. It does because it can be closed such that some amount of force is required to penetrate it. When it is thus closed it protects the body parts behind it, imperfectly. Because it can be closed it does "enclose" (some of the time).

Hence the OP is not an example of "artificial stupidity". And thank for reading the rest of my post. That is how you could slur it as "silly".

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,801 posts)
32. You wrote this:
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 05:35 AM
Jun 3

"It is my sincere hope that you support a woman's right to choose to close her vagina and block penetration when she wishes."

That is a completely clear statement on your behalf.

Igel

(36,795 posts)
23. It should have gone in a worse direction.
Sun Jun 1, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jun 1

What, from the POV of a 'doctor' in 100 BC Rome would, exactly, a vagina "sheath" sheathe?

The child? Only during childbirth.

The ovaries? Sorry, the vagina encloses ovaries like my car encloses the people in the sidewalk or the birds that crap on it.

Think of the imagery of a sword entering a vagina. Does "ovary" or "fallopian tube" or "child" come to mind?

Now think about how something not only goes into but comes out of a scabbard. Does it pass through, like a marble through a tube or pig through a python? No. It comes out the way it came in. More like a fish in an anemone, where mouth = anus. It's a pouch (which goes to the etymology of a synonym for the word in question).

Sometimes people are too clever with etymologies for their own good. This one is bluntly straightforward, if you get my thrust. Ahem.



As for "AI," I tell my students that advertising says it stands for "artificial intelligence" when it really stands for "artificial idiocy"--and that the artificial crap is far inferior to the real crap. So if they can't be brilliant or competent, at least lets have the real stuff and not the artificial stuff--then I know where they stand and I'm not grading some bit of software's academic achievement.

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