Now I'm OFFICIALLY terrified

[LearnedHand]

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Even if SCOTUS backs them off this arrest the judges shit, this country has crossed the Rubicon. How the hell do we recover from this?

Edit: I'm so sorry! I hate when people do this without context and here I go and do it myself! I didn't want to create a dupe but forgot to add the context:

"FBI arrests Wisconsin judge and accuses her of obstructing immigration officials"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/25/judge-hannah-dugan-milwaukee-arrest

[Orrex]

1. When all legal, nonviolent means of effecting change are eliminated...

The people will find other means of effecting change.

[OldBaldy1701E]

11. IF they want things to change, that is. (n/t)

[Orrex]

45. Damn. Well said and spot on.

[Lokee11]

59. JFK -

[Clouds Passing]

62. Right now he's completely disgusted with his nephew

[BoRaGard]

2. What arrest?

A clue, perhaps?

[ruet]

3. It's All Over The Site.

...and the rest of the internet.

[EYESORE 9001]

14. Yep. All over the intertubes. Hither & yon.

Only reason I stopped by was to chastise those unfortunate individuals who stumble upon this nebulous ball of fear without having already pored over all available news sources.

[Ms. Toad]

27. Some of us don't live on the internet nor do we check everywhere else before reading a post here.

I was in class all morning, so I haven't seen or heard any news. And this thread was the first thing I opened on DU when I got home - and my reaction was the same as the poster to whom you responded. Huh? What is this random terror about?

The post should contain enough context so that if it is the first thing we land on, we don't have to go searching and guessing about what it refers to.

How hard is it to add "because of the ICE arrest of a judge in Wisconsin"?

[ruet]

30. Normally I Would Agree.

This is a singularly sensational story though. It's literally everywhere. Also, who doesn't have LBN set as one of their home tabs?

I kidd... I kidd...

[Ms. Toad]

36. I visit LBN maybe once a month.

After reading this thread (and being thoroughly confused), I did check LBN.

I deliberately don't listen to my radio when I'm driving to and from class. We don't have television at home. So had heard absolutely nothing about it prior to landing on this thread. And - even after landing on this thread, I still had heard nothing about what had happened . . .

[BoRaGard]

34. Well said, Ms. Toad

[Joinfortmill]

40. We are all just folks here posting, not reporters following any 'rules'. Just saying. Google is your friend.

[Ms. Toad]

51. Google what? I'm OFFICIALLY terrified?

There is literally no clue in the post as to what the OP is terrified about.

[peacebuzzard]

54. Thank you for the laugh! I hate to watch minute by minute news....

I have no newscasts to follow, no twitter, x, or even bluesky or anything that will advertise useless crap for me to not want and pollute my thought patterns

I like some sports and follow that but mainly I don't want to know too much....its information overload that makes me feel like I am going to have a major fatal system failure

I don't trust what is going on and have lost value in my retirement over these useless political upheavals.

I so miss the times when I could sleep at night. And I miss having a democratic caring president.

[Ms. Toad]

57. I'm usually up on the news.

Aside from a brief period right after the elections and another right after inauguration.

But if something happens between when I leave for classes in the morning and when I come home early- to mid-afternoon, I don't know about it until I log back into DU. And, all too frequently, I run into something posted completely without context.

[NBachers]

64. Agree, Ms. Toad

[bee_peaceful]

6. Judge in Wisconsin arrested by ICE

... for allegedly harboring a "fugitive" that was appearing in her courtroom.

[bee_peaceful]

16. Here are the detes;

?si=K34YByr1WnoMzoX9

[Walleye]

26. Kash Patel called him a perp and then deleted the tweet. These people I swear to God.

[MayReasonRule]

9. Two Judges In Two Separate Venues Have Been Arrested

One had a hearing this morning.



The Asiancy
‪@theasiancy.bsky.social‬

"Judge #HannahDugan, 65, appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge #StephenCDries during a brief hearing in a packed courtroom at the #FederalCourthouse. Dugan, who was wearing a black dress with white flowers, made no public comments during the brief hearing."

[Sympthsical]

61. Did someone really name themselves after gay porn?

This has nothing to do with anything, but the Asiancy is the name of a popular long-running gay porn series online.

Person maybe should’ve googled that one before picking the moniker.

I know it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, but I howled when I saw it.

[OverBurn]

38. Yes, I hadn't heard any news today either, like give us a fucking clue.

[MayReasonRule]

4. Work Within Arms Reach Of You -- Terrifying You Is The Whole Point -- They Want To Terrorize You Into Totaly Compliance

Embrace what you love and hold that closely.

Nourish those that you love starting with your self.

These are still mere skirmishes.
There is unfortunately much more to come.

The reasoned among us will not desist.
The reasoned among us will continue to resist.

The primary way one can resist is to resist becoming compliant because one is terrorized.

Nourishing yourself and others with what you each hold dear is the way to survive this catastrophic wholesale onslaught of abjectly unbridled fascist depravity.

Do not concede.

Love.
Love yourself.
Love the one's you're with.

That is what we're fighting for after all... Love and Peace.

Here's to the restoration of our freedoms through the return to reason's rule!

[EYESORE 9001]

10. And spreading that terror amongst the general population

Authoritarian despots the world around applaud the spread of fear and uncertainty.

When in trouble, or in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout

‘I’m terrified…and you should be too. Not feeling it? Let me crank it up to 11’.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

43. ...and I won't tell you why!

[JMCKUSICK]

5. Link to what terrifies you please?

[leftieNanner]

8. See response 6.

I had the same question.

[JMCKUSICK]

17. Thank you leftieNanner

[FelineOverlord]

12. It just makes me more rebellious

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/breaking/2025/04/25/milwaukee-county-judge-hannah-dugan-arrested-by-feds-at-courthouse/83270885007/

[uponit7771]

56. I wish I could be the same, right now I'm concerned if they're arresting white people like this black folk gonna have

... the 1870s come down on us.

They don't even give a shit about immigrants ... they just gonna gulag everyone who's against Putin's Whore.

[GiqueCee]

67. Knowing that Trump's Gestapo...

... has arrested two judges who had the temerity to disagree with him isn't enough to terrify you?
These guys are already so deep into batshit crazy criminality that laws, and especially that pesky Constitution, don't mean squat to them anymore, if it ever did.
Trump will keep doubling down and pushing the envelope, 'cause that's the way he's hardwired. It's a strategy that has always worked for him before. But his dim, litigious lizard-brain is slowly discovering that his adversaries ain't gonna back down this time. so he's gonna go supernova, and then the proverbial substance is gonna hit the fan with a splat heard round the world.
Duck and cover, ol' buddy!

[unblock]

7. Where we are was probably inevitable from the moment Fox News was launched and the msm didn't push back

They should have been railed on as the overt propaganda network they are. Instead the msm gently described them as a conservative news source and allowed them to play a heavy hand in shaping our national political discourse by using their topics and frames and terminology and antisocial, "debate" techniques.

It's actually a marvel it took so long to get to this point, the right wing had an organized plan for this going at least as far back as Reagan/gingrich, hike the left largely went from election to election without ever stepping back and addressing the long term.

I think we can largely thank shrub's utter incompetence for that. He advanced their cause for sure, by not as much as expected, and he paved the way for Obama to delay things further for another 8 years.

Now Donnie and his wrecking crew are playing the part of the dinosaurs in Jurassic park, breaking things and testing the wires to see if they can completely take over the island.

They're getting a lot of institutional pushback, we have to hope it's enough. Sadly, they are relentless and a victory in the short term will be tested again later.

The only real solution is mass protests, strikes, serious boycotts, etc.

The people are stirring. But we shall see if they can rise to the moment in large enough numbers.

[wiggs]

21. Correct. 50 years of planning, at least. nt

[OldBaldy1701E]

66. Where we are was inevitable from the moment we went full corporatocracy.

Once there was no way to survive in this country, other than being part of the machine, we were locked into this pattern.

But, we won't change it, so the inevitability of our position is set forever.

Unless we wake the hell up.

[LymphocyteLover]

13. Aggressive democracy is the only way to get out of it

Change will come. Noe of this will make him or the GOP more popular.

[milestogo]

15. She may have been arrested because she shielded the person in question from ICE

and not because of a ruling. Anyone of us who interfered with ICE grabbing someone could also be arrested. This is different than arresting her for a decision.

Not positive on the details.

[Fullduplexxx]

35. This this is my understanding they're claiming that the judge ushered him out through a jury door in

In an attempt to elude ice

[usonian]

18. Nobody expects the Gestapo.

Official domestic terrorism branch of the EO.

Massive response is necessary. No slacking off.

[dutch777]

19. We recover by taking it to the streets and boycotting the economy and blaming the whole GOP not just...

Trump.

[Tarzanrock]

20. January 30, 1649 -- the English knew how to deal with their tyrant;

January 21, 1793 -- the French knew how to deal with their tyrant;
April 28, 1945 -- the Italians knew how to deal with their Fascist tyrant;
The time has come for America to deal with its Nazi tyrant.

[barbtries]

22. a link would be good.

in spite of the assumption that everyone knows what you're talking about, some of us may have had a leaking refrigerator that got water all over the kitchen.

[struggle4progress]

24. this may help

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220268556

[FemDemERA]

41. Yikes! Sorry you had that happen, barbtries

I hope you were able to get everything cleaned up and it was just a freak one time thing, not a “must purchase new fridge” kind of thing.

But totally agree. This post was first thing I clicked on today and had to go down several replies to find out what the OP was so terrified of.

Posts without some context usually just make me move on if there isn’t something in first few replies that helps, so thanks to all those who helped by supplying the info.

On edit, typing so slow my reply to barbtries post #22 got moved down. Hate when that happens! Trying to fix on edit to make more sense. My personal wishlist includes replies having a little note like “reply to barbtries #22” because my brain gets lost sometimes trying to match up replies, that aren’t directly underneath. lol .

And now I see LearnedHand fixed the OP in the time it took me to type! Thank You, LearnedHand!!

[barbtries]

50. thanks.

the new fridge is due to be delivered Tuesday. It's a very unwelcome expense, but there is a silver lining: I finally get my bottom freezer.

[slightlv]

63. thread jacking here... sorry... but

I finally got one of those frig's with the bottom freezer. Freezer was great! Could see what I had in it, and had no problem getting to anything. But the rest of the frig? That's where they lost me. I'm 4'9" and couldn't even SEE the top shelf, let alone reach anything without dragging over a chair to stand on. We let it go when we sold the house and went back to the original combo. I still drool over the bottom freezer thing... but damned, not everything I have goes to the freezer! (LOL)

[struggle4progress]

23. ...

[ancianita]

25. Will you PLEASE link what you're talking about for the audience not on here at the same time as you. Thank you.

[Paladin]

28. We need coast-to-coast demonstrations this weekend, in response.

And those demonstrations ought to reflect our outrage. Being nice is one of the primary reasons why we find ourselves in these perilous, corrupt times. There's no mystery to this: Make trump understand that his national money-printing operation is endangered, and we'll start reclaiming our country.

[Walleye]

29. Just reading that she was elected in 2016 and beat an appointee of Scott Walker. At the time, the governor.

County circuit judge, for chrissakes, she’s the boss in her courtroom

[MorbidButterflyTat]

44. That's what I always thought, too

From 30+ years of Law and Order, CSI, Perry Mason, etc.

[Evolve Dammit]

31. Then they came for the judges???

[Iamscrewed]

32. Law

I knew tRump belonged in jail 30+years ago because of what he was doing with his rapist buddy then. He has never been honestly held to account for his actions in his life. If this shit doesn't get stopped really soon we're gonna be in a lot more trouble.

[Traildogbob]

33. Burn down Fux

Deport every genetic strain of Murdocks.
Dispose Stephen miller.
Then let everyone vote and put a 1 million limit of campaigns with one week of campaigning only.
And we all vote for the person that spends the least.

[liberalla]

37. Change of heart?

Patel chickens out: FBI Director Deletes Tweet Announcing Arrest Of Judge For Allegedly Helping Immigrant 'Evade Arrest'

[rsdsharp]

39. I've read the story of her arrest, the two felony charges, and the hearing before a magistrate.

What I HAVEN’T seen is any reference to a grand jury indictment.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury

Fifth Amendment

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. Statement of Senator Tammy Baldwin

Link to tweet

[Dave Bowman]

46. But who will judge the judges? They can't all be fascist pawns or cowards scared of Dump.

[James48]

47. It is clear WHY she was picked.

She’s former head of Catholic Charities.

It’s a Radical Christian Nationalist going after a Catholic.

That is why Kash Patel picked her to go after.

[AdamGG]

48. If ICE didn't have a valid arrest warrant signed by a judge

to arrest that specific immigrant, than the Wisconsin judge was under no obligation to have the immigrant leave her courtroom through the door which ICE preferred to give them easier access to him.

Any charges against her should be thrown out of court before trial, though the point is to intimidate people, not to follow the law. I hope she is able to countersue and bring charges for wrongful arrest.

[Karasu]

49. If arresting judges is normalized 3 fucking months into this administration, this country is as cooked as

a well-done steak.

[Doodley]

52. The FBI dirrector announced it (then deleted) on Twitter. Yes Twitter. That is how FBI announced this. Since when has

Twitter been the official means of communication by the FBI to the public? That tells us everything we need to know.

[Ms. Toad]

53. Thank you for adding the context! n/t

[Hornedfrog2000]

55. Maybe a sternly written letter

Would be of help?

[elocs]

58. If you are looking to be terrified, then DU is the place to come. You will rarely find hope or good news here.

What you learn here is that there is no point in worrying because nothing is going to turn out alright. Accept that and you will find either inner peace or indigestion. Your choice.

[JanMichael]

68. "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-- forever."

"There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever."
George Orwell, 1984

[Blue Owl]

60. Fear only emboldens them

Turn that fear into patriotic fervor.

Live free or die!

That is the true American spirit, and sleazy Donald trump ain’t gonna take it away.

[OhioBack2Blue]

65. There were many off ramps....

But those last remaining doors and windows are closing fast. The only way out soon will be to go through it. It won't be fun, easy, or survivable for many.
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