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nitpicked

(1,098 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:59 AM 17 hrs ago

China cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5266321-china-cancels-us-pork-ships/

China canceled 12,000 metric tons of United States pork shipments amid a high-stakes trade standoff between the superpowers, according to data released Thursday.

China, one of the biggest U.S. trading partners, axed 12,000 metric tons of U.S. pork orders, the data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) shows.

The move represents the biggest cancellation of pork orders since the COVID-19 pandemic disrupted supply chains and stalled economies around the world, Bloomberg News reported.

China, behind Mexico and Japan, was the U.S.’s third-biggest market for pork in 2024, importing some 475,000 metric tons valued at more than $1.1 billion.
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China cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments (Original Post) nitpicked 17 hrs ago OP
Isn't that counterintuitive on China's part? no_hypocrisy 17 hrs ago #1
Yes but they will screw MAGA voters who work at the plant? Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #4
Subtract... littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #5
It would be a mistake to assume that's all and not just be the first stoppage. . nt Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #25
Maybe just biding their time mdbl 14 hrs ago #30
It's Americans who WORK in this industry in America. Not Chinese. nt Jit423 13 hrs ago #39
I can't handle all this winning! synni 17 hrs ago #2
if this is winning, please give me some losing. nt Javaman 15 hrs ago #18
whow!--That is a whole lot pig---cancelled. riversedge 17 hrs ago #3
I would say hurrah for the pigs, who get a reprieve. Baitball Blogger 15 hrs ago #19
About 10 post-slaughter pigs per metric ton LuvLoogie 14 hrs ago #28
I have no idea but my dad always made sure to package up the riversedge 14 hrs ago #31
Best parts of a delicacy is the feet, and organs dreamland 14 hrs ago #32
Mexicans make a pork recipe called carnitas. LuvLoogie 2 hrs ago #40
Does this mean that China has rejected a diplomatic visit from the Golden Manchild? Hugin 16 hrs ago #6
I will never click on The Hill. gab13by13 16 hrs ago #13
Does that mean... 2naSalit 16 hrs ago #7
You should be so lucky.... Old Crank 16 hrs ago #9
When pigs fly!...oh wait...air mail bacon...🤔 MiHale 16 hrs ago #12
Hey! 2naSalit 15 hrs ago #16
Back to point A...good description... MiHale 15 hrs ago #21
This just in... Javaman 15 hrs ago #22
Worked at a place DiverDave 13 hrs ago #38
The howling from the pig farmers should be fun UpInArms 16 hrs ago #8
And the entire supply chain Auggie 16 hrs ago #15
Maybe Joni can castrate a few thousand johnnyfins 15 hrs ago #23
Maybe Israel can buy the pork? Botany 16 hrs ago #10
Bibi's Bargain Bacon Butt Barn... rubbersole 14 hrs ago #33
I doubt bibi gives a real shit about religious dietary laws (or any laws at all.) erronis 14 hrs ago #34
Bibi's B.B.Q. The Very Best in Pulled Pork. Botany 13 hrs ago #36
"Oink" - G.O.P. BoRaGard 16 hrs ago #11
China owns... wait for it... BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago #14
It's an enormous operation. ... littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #17
It sends a message BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #24
Exactly! ❤️ littlemissmartypants 14 hrs ago #29
Wait until the farmers find out Trump won't give them another bailout. GoCubsGo 15 hrs ago #20
FAFO malaise 15 hrs ago #26
Pork Rib Summer upcoming JCMach1 15 hrs ago #27
tRump woke the sleeping dragon dreamland 13 hrs ago #35
Does this mean we will have cheaper barbeque ribs this summer? I just purchased two slabs. We go whole hog or none. Jit423 13 hrs ago #37

littlemissmartypants

(27,232 posts)
5. Subtract...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:19 AM
16 hrs ago

12 from 475 and it's merely a gesture, posturing, a suggestion.

But if it makes President Psychopath look bad, who cares about China getting its feelings hurt? It surely won't lead to their financial ruin at that amount.

❤️

mdbl

(6,284 posts)
30. Maybe just biding their time
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:30 AM
14 hrs ago
The campus also has a massive refrigerated warehouse larger than a football field. It houses something found only in China: a national pork reserve. Much as the U.S. government maintains a strategic oil reserve, China stashes away vast amounts of frozen pork in case of price inflation or war. The mammoth warehouse I was staring at housed 110 million pounds. It is one of the many pork-reserve warehouses that Shuanghui operates for the government across China.

Jit423

(1,244 posts)
39. It's Americans who WORK in this industry in America. Not Chinese. nt
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:59 AM
13 hrs ago

They have us by the (pig) balls.

synni

(301 posts)
2. I can't handle all this winning!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:11 AM
17 hrs ago

I hope I don't need to insert the sarcasm smiley here....

Baitball Blogger

(49,860 posts)
19. I would say hurrah for the pigs, who get a reprieve.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:39 AM
15 hrs ago

But you know farmers would slaughter them, instead of paying the cost to maintain them.

If it were me, I would find a way to release them on the White House lawn.

LuvLoogie

(7,972 posts)
28. About 10 post-slaughter pigs per metric ton
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:19 AM
14 hrs ago

I wonder if China only imports processed, packaged pork. Do they buy heads, feet, and organ meat too?

riversedge

(75,188 posts)
31. I have no idea but my dad always made sure to package up the
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:36 AM
14 hrs ago

organ meats every fall when he butchered the hogs and pigs.

We had a dairy farm in mid WI but since we sold grade A milk, the dairy cows had to be a certain distance from the pigs. So, we kids always had to walk about quarter mile or so down across the road to feed the pigs and check them out each day.

dreamland

(1,090 posts)
32. Best parts of a delicacy is the feet, and organs
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:36 AM
14 hrs ago

Pork tongue, pork ears, it's all delicious if you ever had it.

LuvLoogie

(7,972 posts)
40. Mexicans make a pork recipe called carnitas.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 08:37 PM
2 hrs ago

It uses various cuts of pork and includes the skin and stomach. Cooked in a big vat of lard. Pigs blood will be cooked for tacos, too.

&ab_channel=EstiloSeveriano

Hugin

(36,052 posts)
6. Does this mean that China has rejected a diplomatic visit from the Golden Manchild?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:25 AM
16 hrs ago

I didn’t read the article.

2naSalit

(96,513 posts)
16. Hey!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:23 AM
15 hrs ago

I was wondering where you were.

Of course, I was out of the office for a few days. Had started a journey but had to change plans, bad timing. Back at point A to reassess logistics and timing.

Are you getting the garden plots ready?

MiHale

(11,564 posts)
21. Back to point A...good description...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:40 AM
15 hrs ago

The garden now is a mental refuge. Gotta get my carotid scooped out and the hospital runaround has been crazy. Started to go through my insurance…that’s where I lost my head for a minute…backtracked and now going through the VA Community Care.
I’ll post something in the Gardening forum later, things are moving very quickly. Outdoor beds are ready for their new occupants, greenhouse is getting filled up today.

Javaman

(63,665 posts)
22. This just in...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:40 AM
15 hrs ago

"due to China canceling pork orders, all prices will now skyrocket, just because greed. that is all".

I remember reading about back in the Great Depression, farmers would burn wheat fields and dump their milk because prices were so low they couldn't make any profit. they couldn't even afford to take them to the nearest rail depot for transport.

at this rate we will be there again soon as bond rates continue to drop.

DiverDave

(5,085 posts)
38. Worked at a place
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:47 AM
13 hrs ago

In the '70s. Could get any steak or prime rib to eat.
Heaven for a teenage boy.
Then the "meat shortage". Ranchers just killed whole herds and buried them.
No more filet, hamburgers only.
Still filling the black hole of my appetite,
But, man, that was a bummer.

UpInArms

(52,653 posts)
8. The howling from the pig farmers should be fun
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:42 AM
16 hrs ago

There’s a Smithfield farm a mile away from me … I would be overjoyed if it shut down.

Iowa is full of pig farms … this could get interesting quickly.

Auggie

(32,224 posts)
15. And the entire supply chain
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:11 AM
16 hrs ago

Feed, seed and fertilizer, leftover/undersized crops purchased from other farmers, labor force, meat packing, etc.

Botany

(73,929 posts)
10. Maybe Israel can buy the pork?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:54 AM
16 hrs ago

Just asking.

Way to go Krasnov! Go ahead lose another market for American produced
products. The Europeans are canceling 10s of billions of dollars of American
made aircraft because they now see Krasnov as Putin’s ally who can’t be trusted.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113349153

BumRushDaShow

(151,216 posts)
14. China owns... wait for it...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:10 AM
16 hrs ago

Smithfield Foods!

Needing Pork, China Is to Buy a U.S. Supplier

By Michael J. de la Merced and David Barboza May 29, 2013 7:51 am

8:49 p.m. | Updated

Demand for pork in China reflects its booming economy and rising middle class. But that rapidly growing appetite has strained its food production systems, leading to breakdowns and a number of food safety scandals. Now China’s biggest pork producer, seeking plentiful supplies and technical expertise, has agreed to buy Smithfield Foods, the 87-year-old Virginia-based meat giant with brands like Armour and Farmland, for $4.7 billion in cash.

If completed, the deal that was announced on Wednesday would be the biggest takeover of an American company by a Chinese concern. But it must first overcome skepticism in Washington — and a potentially close examination process by United States regulators. Both Smithfield and its suitor, Shuanghui International, said that they will submit the deal for review by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, or Cfius, a panel of government agencies tasked with clearing deals for national security.

Typically, the committee is concerned with acquisitions that involve technology or vital natural resources. The nation’s food supply chain is not specifically mentioned in its mandate, but the panel’s jurisdiction is considered broad. Among the deals it has reviewed and approved in recent months are the proposed takeover of Nexen Energy by a Chinese oil company and the proposed sale of control of Sprint Nextel to a Japanese telecommunications firm.

The committee may consider whether Shuanghui has ties to organizations like the Chinese army, as well as whether Smithfield’s customer rolls include sensitive information like the locations of secure military installations. “There’s a difference between a foreign company buying Boeing and one buying a hot dog stand,” said Jonathan Gafni, president of Compass Point Analytics, who was involved with the foreign investment committee when he was a deputy national intelligence officer. “But it depends on which corner the stand is on.” Still, he expects the deal to pass muster.

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Who’s behind the Chinese takeover of world’s biggest pork producer?

Sep 12, 2014 7:44 PM EDT

By
PBS News
Hour

Smithfield Foods, the world’s largest pork producer, was acquired by a Chinese firm in 2013 for nearly $5 billion -- more than the company’s market value. The surprising purchase caused some lawmakers to wonder if there might be a hidden player. As part of the series Food for 9 Billion, Nathan Halverson of the Center for Investigative Reporting examines how the Chinese government is involved.

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China "owns the means of production".

BumRushDaShow

(151,216 posts)
24. It sends a message
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:50 AM
15 hrs ago

that there can be more to come (since they own it).

China is playing the long game/squeeze play since we have effectively off-shored most of our production in the push for "free trade" (but cheaper labor to maximize profits).

(ETA - it's the infamous "Chinese water torture" )

GoCubsGo

(33,747 posts)
20. Wait until the farmers find out Trump won't give them another bailout.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Like the last time he pulled this shit during his previous term, and destroyed their markets. Fucking idiots.

dreamland

(1,090 posts)
35. tRump woke the sleeping dragon
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:18 AM
13 hrs ago

China is positioned to play the long game. Owning Smithfield farms is not relevant if they take a shortage of pork products since they won't have to worry about paying tariffs to bring over something they own. They have a pork reserve enough to wait a couple years. They made deals with other countries to pick up some of the pork slack. The heartlands are still in support of tRump, China recognizes that. They are now going to make tRump "lose face". This is just the start, soybeans is next if it hasn't been done. And oil will be too, there is less need for oil as they've been going EV and solar. TRump and MAGA screwed the US badly.

Jit423

(1,244 posts)
37. Does this mean we will have cheaper barbeque ribs this summer? I just purchased two slabs. We go whole hog or none.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:45 AM
13 hrs ago

We love pork ribs and sauerkraut too with mashed potatoes. Pigs feet, chitterlings, liver, arm, and bacon and belly. It's been too high at the market so we stopped buying.

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