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LetMyPeopleVote

(162,024 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:18 PM Yesterday

David Hogg is being paid a six figure salary by his PAC and may be using DNC emails to raise money for this PAC

Hogg's pac raised $11.9 million and $10.7 million went to operating expenses including his salary










I got another email from David Hogg’s PAC (Leaders We Deserve). Decided to see what’s up. IDK, looks like homeboy is making a nice six figure salary:

Raised $11.9m
Spent $10.9m
Salaries: $608k (w 2/founders)
Consultants: $3m
Donations to House Candidates: $12.6k


Since Hogg's election to the DNC, I have been getting a good number of emails from Hogg and his pac. I am not the only one


I had never received any emails from Hogg prior to his election to the DNC.
It is wrong for Hogg to use the DNC contact list to raise money to pay his salary and to challenge democratic incumbent candidates
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David Hogg is being paid a six figure salary by his PAC and may be using DNC emails to raise money for this PAC (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday OP
he said he was gonna spend $20 mil but do not recall him providing the source of the money nt msongs Yesterday #1
I believe the source is his pac Leaders We Deserve Meowmee 23 hrs ago #38
Keep your eyes on the prize........... Lovie777 Yesterday #2
So what! Do you think he's the only one? Sewa Yesterday #3
I'll tell you what's wrong. Primarying sitting Dems with another Dem doesn't get us... brush Yesterday #6
Refusing to do so gets the 2024 results iemanja Yesterday #15
It's not that hard to understand. Subbing one Dem for annother gets us 2024 all over again. brush Yesterday #16
Approval of Democrats is at an all-time low iemanja Yesterday #17
Again, replacing Dems with other Dems does not gain the majority. brush Yesterday #18
Is your point that it's a lost cause? iemanja Yesterday #21
New blood does not a competent leader make Keepthesoulalive Yesterday #28
I think it's a case by case basis iemanja 23 hrs ago #30
Older Democrats? sheshe2 22 hrs ago #40
Oh sure, pushing out sitting Dems instead of funding races against vulnerable rethugs... brush 11 hrs ago #59
A huge disappointment. The messaging is what the GOP eats up Nixie 13 hrs ago #50
So true. brush 11 hrs ago #58
I disagree sboatcar 12 hrs ago #53
Disagree all you want, but getting the majority is the priority or trump will continue... brush 11 hrs ago #57
Agreed ILikePie92 Yesterday #9
(1) If others are doing the same, point them out. W_HAMILTON 23 hrs ago #34
Excellent Points.. TY, W HAMILTON! Cha 21 hrs ago #43
What the fuck is wrong with Mountainguy 23 hrs ago #35
What is your definition of an "Institutionist Democrat"? sheshe2 22 hrs ago #42
Same as Establishment but being "anti-institutionist" isn't really a thing and doesn't have the groovy '60s betsuni 12 hrs ago #54
Primary out those that vote with trump, or who are silent in this fight for our democracy. Bravo. rich7862 13 hrs ago #51
Whataboutism at its very finest. GaYellowDawg 12 hrs ago #52
At $27 a-pop... fundraising can be very profitable. Oopsie Daisy Yesterday #4
"I am once again asking you"... sheshe2 22 hrs ago #41
🤣😂👍️ Exactly! Oopsie Daisy 17 hrs ago #45
Looks like ILikePie92 Yesterday #5
Oh ILikePie92 Yesterday #7
See post #6. brush Yesterday #10
Troubling nt delisen Yesterday #8
Just put "the people" or "grassroots" in front of money and it's pure while everyone else's is a bribe from Satan. betsuni Yesterday #11
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #12
No it's not. Obama received a record amount of money from Wall Street. Did he refuse to sign betsuni Yesterday #13
Is this the supposed reason he wants Democrats to stand up to fascism iemanja Yesterday #14
Al Green stood up Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #29
Obviously the point isn't to primary everyone. iemanja 23 hrs ago #31
No I don't Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #37
Another grifter mcar Yesterday #19
There was a video on here yesterday with Brian Tyler Cohen and David Hogg..A good question n answer Deuxcents Yesterday #26
His PAC raised $11.9 million. $10.7 million went to "administrative expenses" mcar 11 hrs ago #60
I just get texts, not so much emails. ananda Yesterday #20
Lot of people here sure hate David. Cuthbert Allgood Yesterday #22
He seems to be good at dividing Dems MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #32
He is not the one dividing Democrats. Celerity 16 hrs ago #46
I'm confused these tax forms are from 2024 MagickMuffin Yesterday #23
Isn't 2024 the most recent tax year? MichMan 13 hrs ago #48
The post said last month, last time I checked that would be Mar 2025 MagickMuffin 9 hrs ago #63
That post you are referring to is dated June 18 2024. MichMan 2 hrs ago #66
What does the DNC Chair position pay again? Genuinely curious. flvegan Yesterday #24
Waiting for the pivot of his PAC's mission statement, from getting a variety of young Democrats into office, to... LudwigPastorius Yesterday #25
If I knew that over 95% of donations to a PAC went to staff & overhead, and less than 5% was used for the stated purpose MichMan Yesterday #27
it's quite a grift, to put it charitably fujiyamasan 23 hrs ago #39
Donald Segretti had a term for people who set out to undermine Democrats. n/t valleyrogue 23 hrs ago #33
Yes I learned of his salary from the pac about 2 weeks ago Meowmee 23 hrs ago #36
Did you contribute to his PAC after receiving his passionate plea? MichMan 13 hrs ago #47
LOL no I deleted the emails and replied to one saying please remove me etc., and unsubbed etc. Meowmee 5 hrs ago #64
He's learned quick how to make money in politics. William769 17 hrs ago #44
Who is funding the PAC? JustAnotherGen 13 hrs ago #49
You are right, that is very important. JohnSJ 12 hrs ago #55
I guess that the technical term is 'suckers' Jose Garcia 11 hrs ago #61
This kid claudette 12 hrs ago #56
there are lots of jobs that require you... mike_c 10 hrs ago #62
It's pretty common among grifters. W_HAMILTON 5 hrs ago #65

msongs

(71,128 posts)
1. he said he was gonna spend $20 mil but do not recall him providing the source of the money nt
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:21 PM
Yesterday

Meowmee

(8,722 posts)
38. I believe the source is his pac Leaders We Deserve
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:46 AM
23 hrs ago

Which also pays him a large salary. Ultimately the source is less important than the fact that he is breaking a neutrality agreement, and trying to use his position to primary dems he doesn’t approve of. If he wants to do this, he should resign and do it on his own time.

David Hogg-run group announces $20M initiative to support primary challengers to House Democrats

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/david-hogg-run-group-announces-20m-initiative-support/story?id=120861846

Sewa

(1,407 posts)
3. So what! Do you think he's the only one?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:29 PM
Yesterday

Hogg has the Institutionist Dems running scared. Good for him.

Btw what’s wrong with giving Democratic voters more choice. Ultimately it comes down to the voters to decide, if they are given a choice of candidates.

brush

(59,628 posts)
6. I'll tell you what's wrong. Primarying sitting Dems with another Dem doesn't get us...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:04 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

a majority in the House or Senate. What should be done is going after rethugs in purple districts, or in blue districts Biden won.

Getting the majority to be able to get bills to the floor and passed is WHAT'S IMPORTANT. Subbing one Dem for one Hogg prefers is get us nowhere.

It's not complicated.

Hogg is turning out to be a disappointment but he makes sure he feathers his own nest with nice. hefty salary.

Again, a disappointment.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
15. Refusing to do so gets the 2024 results
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:09 PM
Yesterday

which many are committed to repeating ad infinitum.

brush

(59,628 posts)
16. It's not that hard to understand. Subbing one Dem for annother gets us 2024 all over again.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:18 PM
Yesterday

Out of power.

Why don't you get that? We have to defeat republicans, not other Dems SO WE GET THE MAJORITY and then are able get control of bills to the floor and pass them. Also we stop rethugs from controlling the House and giving trump what he wants.

Not that complicated.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
17. Approval of Democrats is at an all-time low
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:40 PM
Yesterday

That is what continues with the status quo. Why do you think keeping older Democrats in office when the public wants new blood is going to turn out better than 2024? You've given no reason as to why the status quo gets us anything better than 2024,

brush

(59,628 posts)
18. Again, replacing Dems with other Dems does not gain the majority.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:16 PM
Yesterday

Defeat magat republicans, not Democrats. Not complicated. Getting the majority is the whole point.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
21. Is your point that it's a lost cause?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:59 PM
Yesterday

Any Democrat will lose so why bother? That's what it sounds like. Again, you haven't given a single reason why repeating the status quo will result in anything different from 2024. You also haven't explained how introducing some new Democrats won't help, other than new Democrats won't do any better than the existing ones. How about primarying the ones who don't stand up to fascism? Is that an anathema to you too? Are you suggesting elected Democrats deserve a seat for life? I recalled these arguments being used against AOC, despite the fact it was a safe Democratic seat. People just couldn't bear a change.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
28. New blood does not a competent leader make
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:45 PM
Yesterday

I can name 2 younger senators Sinema who helped to destroy some of Bidens agenda and Fetterman who slobbers all over trump . New blood that is self serving only helps republicans. Wanting something new and shiny will not fix our problems. Only hard work and vetting the best candidate for the job no matter where they land on the age spectrum will fix our country.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
30. I think it's a case by case basis
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:18 AM
23 hrs ago

While someone new isn’t of itself necessarily an improvement, if they take a seat from a Democrat who won’t stand up to fascism, it is. Elections are meant to be democratic. We do not have a House of Lords: the notion that elected representatives should serve for life uncontested is undemocratic. The claim that a primary is the same as voting for a Republican is false. Of course we will all vote for the Democrats in the GE.

Fascism is the single issue of our time. Resisting it is all that matters.

sheshe2

(91,508 posts)
40. Older Democrats?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:26 AM
22 hrs ago

What age do you and David (25) consider old and in the way? What is the cut off, 40 50 60?

Why do you think keeping older Democrats in office when the public wants new blood


Here are a few. Do we get rid of them too?

Corey Booker 55
Elizabeth Warren 75
Bernie Sanders 83
Nancy Pelosi 85

brush

(59,628 posts)
59. Oh sure, pushing out sitting Dems instead of funding races against vulnerable rethugs...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:11 PM
11 hrs ago

gets us closer to a majority in the House in '26 than whatever it is you're going on about.

This site is about electing Dems, not primarying sitting Dems.

Again, gaining the majoority to stop trump is the priority. There's nothing hard to understand about that.

Nixie

(17,609 posts)
50. A huge disappointment. The messaging is what the GOP eats up
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:47 AM
13 hrs ago

from what is politically called useful idiots.

Look at the California senate race with Katie Porter and Adam Schiff. She attacked a well-polling, dominant, popular Democrat for over a year with absolute nonsensical gibberish about corruption and all the other cool buzzwords they think they have to attack Democrats. It was not about giving voters a “choice.” It was about pushing a losing and failed narrative against our candidates. And they want DNC money for this…

sboatcar

(599 posts)
53. I disagree
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:54 AM
12 hrs ago

The democrats in congress now aren't standing up to Trump they way they should be. They should all be up in arms instead of doing nothing. They aren't serving their constituents by doing that. We need some strong people running the show, not people who 'may' send a slightly strongly worded letter about things.
We need some fresh blood in congress that will actually fight for us. Those who refuse need to move on.

brush

(59,628 posts)
57. Disagree all you want, but getting the majority is the priority or trump will continue...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:04 PM
11 hrs ago

to fuck up the economy and our majority.

W_HAMILTON

(8,927 posts)
34. (1) If others are doing the same, point them out.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:26 AM
23 hrs ago

(2) People like David Hogg have been critical in the past of even mere ALLEGATIONS of the same sort of biased influence he is now himself trying to exert as a DNC leader. It's insanely hypocritical.

(3) Who the hell is David Hogg to foist a candidate upon voters? There is nothing precluding anyone from running in Democratic primaries -- hell, given some of our recent ones, you don't even need to be a Democrat... *cough cough*

Just because David Hogg doesn't approve of the job that someone is doing doesn't mean their ACTUAL CONSTITUENTS think the same. And -- as we've seen with Sinema and now it looks like Fetterman is next -- when someone's constituents turn on them, the voters know how to get rid of them. They don't need a random 20-something-year-old telling them who they should vote for instead.

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
54. Same as Establishment but being "anti-institutionist" isn't really a thing and doesn't have the groovy '60s
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:00 AM
12 hrs ago

vibe that "anti-establishment" has. I don't think "Institutionist Dems" is going to happen.

Also too, Cenk and his '60s band-PAC The Super-Populist Rebellions aren't pretending to be democratic socialists anymore. They finally gave up on making that happen (now that nobody running for president has to pretend FDR/LBJ were democratic socialists so the only true Democrat must be a socialist, too). Now they're admitting to being capitalists by calling themselves progressive capitalists.

rich7862

(456 posts)
51. Primary out those that vote with trump, or who are silent in this fight for our democracy. Bravo.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:51 AM
13 hrs ago

Oopsie Daisy

(5,618 posts)
45. 🤣😂👍️ Exactly!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:39 AM
17 hrs ago

I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that it's easier for a politician to regularly and repeatedly return to the money-well if they promise to "split" the donation with some other group, cause or candidate. I guess that way, it kinda sounds altruistic. Maybe it has a psychological effect by making them appear to be less greedy since they're only keeping half for themselves. Apparently this is an effective and efficient way to encourage the donor is to loosen their purse strings, yet again. (Nice work if you can get it.)

ILikePie92

(82 posts)
5. Looks like
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:03 PM
Yesterday

...the knives are out for David. Guess that's what happens when you piss off those in power.

I'm sure there's a whole group of people looking for dirt on him now.

Same old circular DNC firing squad.

We're only hurting ourselves doing this.

I heard him out during several interviews on TV. His plan doesn't sound that crazy to me.



betsuni

(27,800 posts)
11. Just put "the people" or "grassroots" in front of money and it's pure while everyone else's is a bribe from Satan.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:37 PM
Yesterday

Insist that it's just little tiny itty bitty $27 donations (still pure even if the legal limit is reached by donating numerous times, but if a Democrat receives the legal limit all at once it's an immoral corrupting bribe from Satan).

If he's using a DNC contact list, doesn't it have Establishment cooties?

Response to betsuni (Reply #11)

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
13. No it's not. Obama received a record amount of money from Wall Street. Did he refuse to sign
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:03 PM
Yesterday

laws regulating Wall Street. No. They gave their money to Mitt Romney next election, why Michael Moore predicted Mitt would win, because he had more money. So what? You just fundraise elsewhere. Money doesn't guarantee winning, it can't force anyone to vote a certain way.

Campaign finance reform is a Democratic issue and all candidates ran on it.

What Democrats changed policy because of campaign contributions? Who?

Democrats don't listen because of lobster and champagne.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
14. Is this the supposed reason he wants Democrats to stand up to fascism
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:07 PM
Yesterday

and actually win elections?

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
29. Al Green stood up
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:53 PM
23 hrs ago

He’s in his 70’s should we primary him, he also brings in money to help his district. Let’s try and run a clear headed campaign to get rid of trump , not some knee jerk magic potion. Young does not mean good old does not mean bad.
We need competent leadership and don’t give a fig about age.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
37. No I don't
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:37 AM
23 hrs ago

This discussion about new blood only seems to discriminate because of age and time in congress.
I would appreciate who he feels should be primaried ,list please or is it left up to him to decide who our candidates should be.

Deuxcents

(21,900 posts)
26. There was a video on here yesterday with Brian Tyler Cohen and David Hogg..A good question n answer
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:34 PM
Yesterday

Interview that I wish I knew how to pull up. Texas Towelie posted it but it’s on YouTube, too. If you watch it, I don’t believe you will walk away with the same opinion you’ve just posted here.

mcar

(44,480 posts)
60. His PAC raised $11.9 million. $10.7 million went to "administrative expenses"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
11 hrs ago

only $266,000 was spent on campaigns.

That is grift, pure and simple.

ananda

(31,535 posts)
20. I just get texts, not so much emails.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:45 PM
Yesterday

I haven't donated a red cent to anyone since the election.

I'm hunkering down now and trying to save money.

MagickMuffin

(17,576 posts)
23. I'm confused these tax forms are from 2024
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:19 PM
Yesterday

Have we traveled back in time.

We should be working together on how to advance our election strategy. I think David Hogg should focus on unchallenged seats. Get younger people to run against republicans that don’t have a democratic opponent.

As far as the pac goes and using the dnc’s email list I believe is wrong, and he should be penalized for that, whatever that is.

I’d hate to see the Democratic Party run him off when he could and can be a valuable asset to the party.


MagickMuffin

(17,576 posts)
63. The post said last month, last time I checked that would be Mar 2025
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:32 PM
9 hrs ago


That’s what confused me. They should show proof of the $$$ for this year since that’s what they stated.


MichMan

(14,962 posts)
66. That post you are referring to is dated June 18 2024.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:39 PM
2 hrs ago

When it was originally posted it was last month (May 2024)

LudwigPastorius

(12,269 posts)
25. Waiting for the pivot of his PAC's mission statement, from getting a variety of young Democrats into office, to...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:11 PM
Yesterday

getting David Hogg into office.

He's stated that he will run for Congress when he turns 25. I just don't know what seat he's going to try for.

MichMan

(14,962 posts)
27. If I knew that over 95% of donations to a PAC went to staff & overhead, and less than 5% was used for the stated purpose
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:35 PM
Yesterday

I sure as hell wouldn't give them a penny and would find a better use for it like my local animal rescue group.

Good luck raising the $20 million he is proposing

fujiyamasan

(45 posts)
39. it's quite a grift, to put it charitably
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:51 AM
23 hrs ago

And we all know if we saw a figure less sympathetic than Hogg doing this, that’s the word that would be used to describe this.

Another word to describe would be scam. Perhaps that’s harsh, so I’ll stick with grift.

Meowmee

(8,722 posts)
36. Yes I learned of his salary from the pac about 2 weeks ago
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:37 AM
23 hrs ago

Does anyone know what he is being paid by DNC? I know for sure that I and a friend both received emails from him last week asking for money. And neither of us ever signed up for the emails for that pac so they had to come from a DNC mailing list.

MichMan

(14,962 posts)
47. Did you contribute to his PAC after receiving his passionate plea?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:56 AM
13 hrs ago

His PAC is named appropriately

Meowmee

(8,722 posts)
64. LOL no I deleted the emails and replied to one saying please remove me etc., and unsubbed etc.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:19 PM
5 hrs ago

Yes I was thinking that about the name too. 😹

claudette

(5,297 posts)
56. This kid
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:08 AM
12 hrs ago

is really getting on my nerves. I'm glad he survived the school shooting, but for gawd's sake - get OUT of Dem politics now!

mike_c

(36,529 posts)
62. there are lots of jobs that require you...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:17 PM
10 hrs ago

...to raise funds for your salary. That is not uncommon.

W_HAMILTON

(8,927 posts)
65. It's pretty common among grifters.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:23 PM
5 hrs ago

If you are incapable of raising much money to begin with, what are you paying yourself an exorbitant salary? A salary to do what exactly?

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